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Reveal’s investigations will inspire, infuriate and inform you. Host Al Letson and an award-winning team of reporters deliver gripping stories about caregivers, advocates for the unhoused, immigrant families, warehouse workers and formerly incarcerated people, fighting to hold the powerful accountable. The New Yorker described Reveal as “a knockout … a pleasure to listen to, even as we seethe.” A winner of multiple Peabody, duPont, Emmy and Murrow awards, Reveal is produced by the nation’s first investigative journalism nonprofit, The Center for Investigative Reporting, and PRX. From unearthing exploitative working conditions to exposing the nation’s racial disparities, there’s always more to the story. Learn more at revealnews.org/learn.
Reveal’s investigations will inspire, infuriate and inform you. Host Al Letson and an award-winning team of reporters deliver gripping stories about caregivers, advocates for the unhoused, immigrant families, warehouse workers and formerly incarcerated people, fighting to hold the powerful accountable. The New Yorker described Reveal as “a knockout … a pleasure to listen to, even as we seethe.” A winner of multiple Peabody, duPont, Emmy and Murrow awards, Reveal is produced by the nation’s first investigative journalism nonprofit, The Center for Investigative Reporting, and PRX. From unearthing exploitative working conditions to exposing the nation’s racial disparities, there’s always more to the story. Learn more at revealnews.org/learn.
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Here's a quick summary of the last 5 episodes on Reveal.
Hosts
Al Letson
Previous Guests
Arlie Hochschild
Arlie Hochschild is an American sociologist and author known for her work on the sociology of emotions, gender, and the impact of social class on personal relationships. She has spent years conducting interviews and research in rural America, particularly focusing on the experiences of individuals affected by economic decline and cultural shifts. Hochschild's notable works include 'The Managed Heart' and 'Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right,' where she explores the emotional landscape of those who feel left behind by economic and political changes. Her latest book, 'Stolen Pride,' examines the intersection of pride, shame, and political identity among rural communities.
Arlie Hochschild is an American sociologist and author known for her work on the sociology of emotions, gender, and the impact of social class on personal relationships. She has spent years conducting interviews and research in rural America, particularly focusing on the experiences of individuals affected by economic decline and cultural shifts. Hochschild's notable works include 'The Managed Heart' and 'Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right,' where she explores the emotional landscape of those who feel left behind by economic and political changes. Her latest book, 'Stolen Pride,' examines the intersection of pride, shame, and political identity among rural communities.
Justin Wolfers
Justin Wolfers is an Australian economist and professor at the University of Michigan, known for his research on the relationship between happiness and income. He teaches introductory economics, focusing on supply, demand, and trade. Wolfers is a prominent voice in economic discussions, particularly regarding the implications of tariff policies and their potential impact on the economy.
Justin Wolfers is an Australian economist and professor at the University of Michigan, known for his research on the relationship between happiness and income. He teaches introductory economics, focusing on supply, demand, and trade. Wolfers is a prominent voice in economic discussions, particularly regarding the implications of tariff policies and their potential impact on the economy.
Isabela Dias
Isabela Dias is a reporter for Mother Jones, focusing on immigration and social justice issues. She has covered various topics related to the treatment of immigrants and the implications of U.S. immigration policies.
Isabela Dias is a reporter for Mother Jones, focusing on immigration and social justice issues. She has covered various topics related to the treatment of immigrants and the implications of U.S. immigration policies.
Noah Lanard
Noah Lanard is a journalist at Mother Jones, where he reports on immigration and criminal justice. His work often highlights the intersection of policy and personal stories, shedding light on the experiences of marginalized communities.
Noah Lanard is a journalist at Mother Jones, where he reports on immigration and criminal justice. His work often highlights the intersection of policy and personal stories, shedding light on the experiences of marginalized communities.
Carlos Dada
Carlos Dada is the co-founder and director of El Faro, an investigative news outlet based in El Salvador. He is known for his in-depth reporting on issues affecting Central America, including crime, corruption, and human rights.
Carlos Dada is the co-founder and director of El Faro, an investigative news outlet based in El Salvador. He is known for his in-depth reporting on issues affecting Central America, including crime, corruption, and human rights.
David Folkenflik
David Folkenflik is a prominent journalist and media correspondent for NPR, where he covers the intersection of journalism and politics. He has reported extensively on the challenges facing the media industry, particularly in the context of political pressures and threats to press freedom. Folkenflik has received recognition for his insightful analysis and reporting on the state of journalism in America, especially during tumultuous political periods. His work often highlights the importance of maintaining journalistic integrity and public trust in the media.
David Folkenflik is a prominent journalist and media correspondent for NPR, where he covers the intersection of journalism and politics. He has reported extensively on the challenges facing the media industry, particularly in the context of political pressures and threats to press freedom. Folkenflik has received recognition for his insightful analysis and reporting on the state of journalism in America, especially during tumultuous political periods. His work often highlights the importance of maintaining journalistic integrity and public trust in the media.
Topics Discussed
Trump
working class
rural America
manufacturing jobs
coal mining
tariffs
Stolen Pride
downward mobility
Pikeville
Appalachia
opioids
white supremacist march
police firearms
gun reselling
criminals
law enforcement
gun violence
Maria Leslie
Alain Stephens
economics
supply and demand
trade policies
recession
Donald Trump
happiness and income
deportation
Venezuelan nationals
Trump administration
El Salvador
immigration
Terrorism Confinement Center
Tren de Aragua
Carlos Dada
El Faro
Najib Aminy
pro-Israel groups
journalism
media access
public trust
NPR
federal funding
conservatives
Reveal is produced by The Center for Investigative Reporting and features investigative journalism from around the world. From documentaries, animations, podcasts and more, we'll bring these powerful narratives alive in a variety of different formats. Learn more about our national public radio show Reveal, produced with PRX, at revealnews.org.
This channel formerly was called The I Files and was supported by the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation.
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Sociologist Arlie Hochschild has spent years talking with people living in rural parts of the country who have been hit hard by the loss of manufacturing jobs and shuttered coal mines. Theyre the very people President Donald Trump argues will benefit most from his sweeping wave of tariffs and recent executive orders aimed at reviving coal mining in the US. But Hochschild is skeptical that Trumps policies will actually benefit those in rural America. But Hochschild argues that Trumps policies will only fill an emotional need for those in rural America.
In her latest book, Stolen Pride, Hochschild visited Pikeville, Kentucky, a small city in Appalachia where coal jobs were leaving, opioids were arriving, and a white supremacist march was being planned. The more she talked to people, the more she saw how Trump played on their shame and pride about their downward mobility and ultimately used that to his political advantage. On this weeks episode of More To The Story, host Al Letson talks with Hochschild about the long slide of downward mobility in rural America and why she thinks Trumps policies ultimately wont benefit his most core supporters.
Producer: Josh Sanburn | Editor: Kara McGuirk-Allison | Theme music: Fernando Arruda and Jim Briggs | Digital producer: Nikki Frick | Interim executive producers: Brett Myers and Taki Telonidis | Host: Al Letson Donate today at Revealnews.org/more
Sociologist Arlie Hochschild has spent years talking with people living in rural parts of the country who have been hit hard by the loss of manufacturing jobs and shuttered coal mines. Theyre the very people President Donald Trump argues will benefit most from his sweeping wave of tariffs and recent executive orders aimed at reviving coal mining in the US. But Hochschild is skeptical that Trumps policies will actually benefit those in rural America. But Hochschild argues that Trumps policies will only fill an emotional need for those in rural America.
In her latest book, Stolen Pride, Hochschild visited Pikeville, Kentucky, a small city in Appalachia where coal jobs were leaving, opioids were arriving, and a white supremacist march was being planned. The more she talked to people, the more she saw how Trump played on their shame and pride about their downward mobility and ultimately used that to his political advantage. On this weeks episode of More To The Story, host Al Letson talks with Hochschild about the long slide of downward mobility in rural America and why she thinks Trumps policies ultimately wont benefit his most core supporters.
Producer: Josh Sanburn | Editor: Kara McGuirk-Allison | Theme music: Fernando Arruda and Jim Briggs | Digital producer: Nikki Frick | Interim executive producers: Brett Myers and Taki Telonidis | Host: Al Letson Donate today at Revealnews.org/more
When the Stanislaus County Sheriff’s Department in California wanted to purchase new firearms, it sold its used ones to help cover the cost. The old guns went to a distributor, which then turned around and sold them to the public. One of those guns—a Glock pistol—found its way to Indianapolis.
That Glock was involved in the killing of Maria Leslie’s grandson, and the fact that it once belonged to law enforcement makes her loss sting even more.
“My grandson was in his own apartment complex. He lived there,” Leslie said. “He should not have been murdered there, especially with a gun that traces back all the way to the California police department’s coffers.”
This week on Reveal, in a collaboration with The Trace and CBS News, reporter Alain Stephens examines a common practice for police departments—trading in their old weapons rather than destroying them—and how it’s led to tens of thousands of old cop guns ending up in the hands of criminals.
This is an update of an episode first aired in July 2024. Since then, more than a dozen law enforcement agencies have stopped reselling their used firearms or are reviewing their policies.
When the Stanislaus County Sheriff’s Department in California wanted to purchase new firearms, it sold its used ones to help cover the cost. The old guns went to a distributor, which then turned around and sold them to the public. One of those guns—a Glock pistol—found its way to Indianapolis.
That Glock was involved in the killing of Maria Leslie’s grandson, and the fact that it once belonged to law enforcement makes her loss sting even more.
“My grandson was in his own apartment complex. He lived there,” Leslie said. “He should not have been murdered there, especially with a gun that traces back all the way to the California police department’s coffers.”
This week on Reveal, in a collaboration with The Trace and CBS News, reporter Alain Stephens examines a common practice for police departments—trading in their old weapons rather than destroying them—and how it’s led to tens of thousands of old cop guns ending up in the hands of criminals.
This is an update of an episode first aired in July 2024. Since then, more than a dozen law enforcement agencies have stopped reselling their used firearms or are reviewing their policies.
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Justin Wolfers teaches economics 101 at the University of Michigan. It’s an introductory course about supply, demand, and trade. The basics. He wishes President Donald Trump attended.
Wolfers, an Australian known for his research on how happiness relates to income, is one of the more prominent economists speaking up about Trump’s sweeping tariff policies. He says that they not only betray the most basic laws of economics, but could very well tip the US into a recession unnecessarily.
On this episode of More To The Story, Wolfers sits down with host Al Letson to discuss why today’s tariffs are markedly different from the ones Trump imposed in 2018 and why tariffs almost never produce the intended effects that are often promised.
Producer: Josh Sanburn | Editor: Kara McGuirk-Allison | Theme music: Fernando Arruda and Jim Briggs | Fact checker: Serena Lin | Digital producers: Nikki Frick and Artis Curiskis | Interim executive producers: Taki Telonidis and Brett Myers | Executive editor: James West | Host: Al Letson
Justin Wolfers teaches economics 101 at the University of Michigan. It’s an introductory course about supply, demand, and trade. The basics. He wishes President Donald Trump attended.
Wolfers, an Australian known for his research on how happiness relates to income, is one of the more prominent economists speaking up about Trump’s sweeping tariff policies. He says that they not only betray the most basic laws of economics, but could very well tip the US into a recession unnecessarily.
On this episode of More To The Story, Wolfers sits down with host Al Letson to discuss why today’s tariffs are markedly different from the ones Trump imposed in 2018 and why tariffs almost never produce the intended effects that are often promised.
Producer: Josh Sanburn | Editor: Kara McGuirk-Allison | Theme music: Fernando Arruda and Jim Briggs | Fact checker: Serena Lin | Digital producers: Nikki Frick and Artis Curiskis | Interim executive producers: Taki Telonidis and Brett Myers | Executive editor: James West | Host: Al Letson
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On March 15th, federal agents rounded up more than 230 Venezuelan nationals who were then deported to El Salvador and locked up in the country’s notorious mega-prison. The Trump administration said the men belonged to a violent Venezuelan gang, but presented no evidence, and there were no court hearings in which the men could contest the allegations.
Nearly a month later, families of the Venezuelan men say they have heard nothing about their fate. It’s as if they disappeared.
“We're living in a world where you can just be rounded up with no hearing, not even an administrative hearing, nothing,” says immigration attorney Joseph Giardina. “Why couldn't you have let their cases be adjudicated? There's no logical answer other than a publicity stunt.”
This week on Reveal, Mother Jones reporters Isabela Dias and Noah Lanard speak to the families and lawyers of 10 men now imprisoned at the Terrorism Confinement Center, known as CECOT. They vehemently deny allegations that the men are members of the Tren de Aragua criminal organization, and several provided evidence to support that.
To learn more about the Trump administration’s arrangement with the government of El Salvador, host Al Letson speaks with Carlos Dada, co-founder and director of El Faro, the Salvadaron investigative news outlet. Dada says that in addition to foreign nationals, the agreement also allows for American citizens convicted of crimes to be imprisoned in El Salvador.
As the Trump administration also targets international students who have spoken out about Israel’s war in Gaza, Reveal’s Najib Aminy reports on pro-Israel groups that are claiming to have shared lists of student protestors with the White House, and then taking credit when some of those young people are targeted for deportation.
On March 15th, federal agents rounded up more than 230 Venezuelan nationals who were then deported to El Salvador and locked up in the country’s notorious mega-prison. The Trump administration said the men belonged to a violent Venezuelan gang, but presented no evidence, and there were no court hearings in which the men could contest the allegations.
Nearly a month later, families of the Venezuelan men say they have heard nothing about their fate. It’s as if they disappeared.
“We're living in a world where you can just be rounded up with no hearing, not even an administrative hearing, nothing,” says immigration attorney Joseph Giardina. “Why couldn't you have let their cases be adjudicated? There's no logical answer other than a publicity stunt.”
This week on Reveal, Mother Jones reporters Isabela Dias and Noah Lanard speak to the families and lawyers of 10 men now imprisoned at the Terrorism Confinement Center, known as CECOT. They vehemently deny allegations that the men are members of the Tren de Aragua criminal organization, and several provided evidence to support that.
To learn more about the Trump administration’s arrangement with the government of El Salvador, host Al Letson speaks with Carlos Dada, co-founder and director of El Faro, the Salvadaron investigative news outlet. Dada says that in addition to foreign nationals, the agreement also allows for American citizens convicted of crimes to be imprisoned in El Salvador.
As the Trump administration also targets international students who have spoken out about Israel’s war in Gaza, Reveal’s Najib Aminy reports on pro-Israel groups that are claiming to have shared lists of student protestors with the White House, and then taking credit when some of those young people are targeted for deportation.
David Folkenflik occupies a unique role at NPR: He’s a journalist who writes about journalism. And that includes the very organization where he works, which is once again being threatened by conservatives in Washington.
The second Trump administration has aggressively gone after the media in its first few months. It’s kicked news organizations out of the Pentagon. It’s barred other newsrooms from access to the White House. And Trump supporters in Congress are targeting federal funding for public media.
On this week’s episode of More To The Story, Folkenflik talks to host Al Letson about this unprecedented moment for journalists, why more media outlets seem to be bending the knee to the Trump administration, and how journalism can begin to win back public trust.
Producer: Josh Sanburn | Editor: Kara McGuirk-Allison | Theme music: Fernando Arruda and Jim Briggs | Digital producer: Nikki Frick | Interim executive producers: Brett Myers and Taki Telonidis | Host: Al Letson
David Folkenflik occupies a unique role at NPR: He’s a journalist who writes about journalism. And that includes the very organization where he works, which is once again being threatened by conservatives in Washington.
The second Trump administration has aggressively gone after the media in its first few months. It’s kicked news organizations out of the Pentagon. It’s barred other newsrooms from access to the White House. And Trump supporters in Congress are targeting federal funding for public media.
On this week’s episode of More To The Story, Folkenflik talks to host Al Letson about this unprecedented moment for journalists, why more media outlets seem to be bending the knee to the Trump administration, and how journalism can begin to win back public trust.
Producer: Josh Sanburn | Editor: Kara McGuirk-Allison | Theme music: Fernando Arruda and Jim Briggs | Digital producer: Nikki Frick | Interim executive producers: Brett Myers and Taki Telonidis | Host: Al Letson
