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The Art of Charm is where self-motivated people, just like you, come to learn from the company’s coaches about to how to master human dynamics, relationships, and becoming your best self with the help of Johnny and AJ, the company’s founders. Johnny and AJ bring their 11 years of coaching experience from their famous Bootcamps, where they host clients in Los Angeles from all over the world and they share their stories, best practices and themselves on this weekly podcast. Not only does The Art of Charm help everyday people, including active members of the military, learn how to become higher performers, better spouses, partners, and coworkers, they dig deep into human behavior, the science behind it, and demystify what we do and why we do it.

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AJ Harbinger Johnny Dzubak Johnny AJ

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Andrew Brodsky
Andrew Brodsky is a management professor at the University of Texas at Austin and the author of 'Ping: The Secrets of Successful Virtual Communication.' He specializes in the dynamics of communication in virtual environments and has developed the PING Framework, which provides practical strategies for effective digital communication. His work focuses on enhancing productivity and visibility in remote work settings, helping individuals navigate the challenges of virtual interactions.
Sebastien Page
Sebastien Page is the Chief Investment Officer at T. Rowe Price and the author of 'The Psychology of Leadership'. He specializes in blending sports psychology, positive psychology, and personality science to explore the mental habits of resilient leaders. With a focus on stress optimization and leadership performance, Sebastien provides insights into the critical aspects of effective leadership, including the importance of emotional intelligence and the impact of stress on team dynamics.
Oliver Burkeman
Oliver Burkeman is a bestselling author and productivity expert known for his unconventional approach to time management and self-improvement. He has written extensively on the psychology of productivity and the challenges of modern life, often critiquing hustle culture and the pursuit of perfection. His latest book, 'Meditations for Mortals', explores the concept of Imperfectionism, advocating for a more realistic and fulfilling approach to ambition and self-worth. Burkeman's work encourages individuals to embrace their limitations and make meaningful choices that lead to deeper relationships and a more satisfying life.
Dr. Caroline Fleck
Dr. Caroline Fleck is a renowned psychologist and relationship expert known for her work in human dynamics and interpersonal relationships. With a PhD in Psychology, she has dedicated her career to helping individuals and couples build stronger connections through effective communication and emotional intelligence. Dr. Fleck has authored several publications on relationship skills and frequently speaks at workshops and conferences, sharing her insights on how to foster healthy relationships in both personal and professional settings.

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social intelligence genuine connections high-stakes situations emotional states meaningful relationships investment networking communication strategies remote work virtual communication PING Framework productivity visibility communication boundaries digital nonverbal cues leadership stress optimization performance psychology resilience goal setting self-awareness team dynamics personality traits Imperfectionism self-worth time management high achievers perfectionism authenticity decision making habits meaningful connections

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0:00 21:59

How to Vibe With Anyone [Social Intelligence Brief]

Hosts
AJ Harbinger Johnny Dzubak
Keywords
social intelligence genuine connections high-stakes situations emotional states meaningful relationships investment networking communication strategies
Are you missing the skill that actually determines success? In this episode of Social Intelligence, AJ Harbinger and Johnny Dzubak reveal how to create genuine connections in high-stakes situations - whether it's a first date, business lunch, or million-dollar meeting. This masterclass in "vibing" breaks down the science of meaningful connection and shares practical strategies that helped one client secure a $100 million investment during a simple golf outing. AJ and Johnny explain why focusing on shared emotional statesnot just similaritiesis the secret to memorable connections. If you struggle with making strong impressions, maximizing limited time with important contacts, or turning brief interactions into meaningful relationships, this episode offers the framework you've been missing.

What to Listen For

[00:00:00] Why social intelligence trumps technical skill for long-term success

[00:02:04] How to approach high-stakes social situations with confidence

[00:05:27] How one client secured a $100M investment during a golf outing

[00:07:41] Strategic seating arrangements that create instant rapport

[00:09:36] Open-ended questions that make the other person feel valued

[00:12:29] Why shared emotions matter more than shared interests

[00:14:09] Breaking the "question train" to avoid overwhelming others

[00:16:56] How to discuss your passions authentically (even "nerdy" ones)

[00:18:31] When and how to share your mission to inspire others to help

[00:20:44] How to practice vibing in low-stakes situations

Episode Takeaways:

Social intelligence explains 85% of executive success while technical skill only accounts for 15%

Sitting side-by-side creates better connection than sitting across from someone

Focus on shared emotional states rather than just finding similarities

Use open-ended questions that reveal both facts AND feelings

Break the "question train" with the question-answer-statement formula

Share your journey, not just your current credentials or position

Discuss your passions with genuine emotion to create memorable connections

If someone seems reserved, be the first to open up and show vulnerability

Practice these skills in low-stakes situations before applying them to important meetings

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0:00 1:08:14

Ping & Persuade: How to Win in the Era of Always-On Communication | Andrew Brodsky

Hosts
Johnny AJ
Guests
Andrew Brodsky
Keywords
remote work virtual communication PING Framework productivity visibility networking communication boundaries digital nonverbal cues
In a world where remote work, Slack threads, and Zoom fatigue dominate, The Art of Charm welcomes Andrew Brodsky, management professor at UT Austin and author of Ping: The Secrets of Successful Virtual Communication.

This episode is a masterclass in how to reclaim productivity, enhance visibility, and communicate strategically in a virtual-first world. Andrew introduces the PING Framework — a practical toolkit for navigating digital communication with precision, warmth, and power.

If you're feeling drained by back-to-back video calls, unclear on how to network virtually, or unsure how to make your contributions seen and respected — this episode offers the clarity you've been craving.

What to Listen For [00:00:00] The one question almost no one asks that instantly improves meetings [00:04:39] Media richness, cue variety, and why Zoom still feels awkward [00:11:43] Introducing the PING Framework: Perspective, Initiative, Nonverbal, Goals [00:16:44] How to create communication boundaries and stop feeling “always on” [00:25:43] Generational differences and why Gen Z hates the thumbs-up emoji [00:29:05] The visibility trap of remote work and how to build presence [00:35:25] Cold messaging: why successful people are more likely to respond than you think [00:44:03] Why asking for advice increases perceived competence — not weakness [00:48:54] How to rekindle faded relationships without making it weird [00:53:47] Bringing back the “virtual water cooler” [00:57:53] Mimicry and digital nonverbal cues that build instant trust

Episode Takeaways:

Stop defaulting to email or video — ask how people prefer to communicate. It’s a subtle power move that builds trust fast.

Productivity ≠ Visibility. If no one knows what you’re doing, it doesn’t count.

The people you look up to are getting fewer cold messages than you think. Stand out with brevity, specificity, and a simple ask.

Remote communication is not inferior — it’s different. Use the PING Framework (Perspective, Initiative, Nonverbal, Goals) to choose the best format for your message.

Want better work-life balance? Define communication norms with your team.

A thoughtful reconnection text can mean more than you think.

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Resources from this Episode Ping: The Secrets of Successful Virtual Communication Andrew Brodsky’s website Ping Group’s website

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0:00 1:11:47

Stress Isn’t the Enemy: The Science of Peak Leadership Performance | Sebastien Page

Hosts
Johnny AJ
Guests
Sebastien Page
Keywords
leadership stress optimization performance psychology resilience goal setting self-awareness team dynamics personality traits
In this episode of The Art of Charm, we sit down with Sebastien Page — Chief Investment Officer at T. Rowe Price and author of The Psychology of Leadership — to explore what world-class leadership really looks like.

Blending sports psychology, positive psychology, and personality science, Sebastien unpacks the mental habits of resilient leaders, the science behind stress optimization, and the silent traps that sabotage ambition. He reveals why perfection isn't the goal, why some stress is critical to peak performance, and why goals—if unchecked—can lead to ethical and personal blind spots.

If you're a driven professional seeking clarity, impact, and self-mastery, this conversation will give you a psychological edge that most leaders miss. What to Listen For [00:00] Why “no stress” is not the goal — and why some stress makes you perform better [00:06:41] The misunderstood link between flow, performance, and leadership engagement [00:10:01] Stress tolerance affects team dynamics [00:13:59] The dangerous myth of the “always calm” leader [00:17:07] The hidden power of quality relationships in long-term success [00:21:29] Why goal setting without wisdom leads to burnout or regret [00:38:44] Defining your own core values vs. chasing someone else's metrics [00:42:30] The Big Five Personality Traits and how they transform leadership empathy [00:56:59] How to harness social comparison as a competitive advantage — without letting it destroy your self-worth Episode Takeaways:

Stress is not the enemy. Managed correctly, it’s the fuel for your best performance and presence.

Leadership doesn’t mean suppressing emotion. It means learning how to channel it to create clarity for others.

Goal setting is powerful — but without meaning, you risk losing everything that matters chasing things that don’t.

Self-awareness begins with understanding how your personality shapes your leadership

Don’t wait for “the perfect team.” Instead, test, adapt, and build self-aware systems that evolve with context.

Your most important asset isn’t strategy — it’s trust.

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Take this 60-second quiz to find out how your influence stacks up against top performers at theartofcharm.com/influence. Resources from this Episode The Psychology of Leadership: Timeless principles to improve your management of individuals, teams… and yourself! Sebastien Page on LinkedIn Harvard’s 80-year study on happiness and relationships The Yerkes-Dodson Law (stress vs. performance curve) Check in with AJ and Johnny! AJ on LinkedIn Johnny on LinkedIn AJ on Instagram Johnny on Instagram The Art of Charm on Instagram The Art of Charm on YouTube The Art of Charm on TikTok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
0:00 1:02:57

The Power of Imperfection: Make Better Decisions, Take Real Action | Oliver Burkeman

Hosts
Johnny AJ
Guests
Oliver Burkeman
Keywords
Imperfectionism productivity self-worth time management high achievers perfectionism authenticity decision making habits meaningful connections
In this episode of The Art of Charm, we sit down with bestselling author and productivity renegade Oliver Burkeman to unpack his refreshingly honest approach to time, ambition, and self-worth. Drawing from his latest book Meditations for Mortals, Oliver introduces a new philosophy he calls Imperfectionism — a radical shift from hustle culture and perfection paralysis.

We discuss the psychology of high achievers who constantly feel behind, the traps of productivity debt, and how letting go of perfection can paradoxically lead to real momentum, deeper relationships, and a more meaningful life.

If you're constantly stuck between ambition and exhaustion, trying to “optimize” your way into fulfillment, this conversation might just be the permission slip you didn’t know you needed. What to Listen For [00:00] Why all decisions come with a downside — and why that’s freeing [00:03:55] What is “Imperfectionism,” and how can it help you escape productivity traps? [00:08:05] How comparison and perfectionism stop you from building meaningful connections [00:13:52] Why authenticity beats polish — in branding, leadership, and life [00:22:46] “Productivity debt” — and how it silently undermines your confidence [00:29:18] What is decision hunting, and how does it unlock real momentum? [00:33:55] Why one small outreach can reconnect you to a lost part of yourself [00:40:25] The surprising key to building lasting habits (hint: it’s not willpower) [00:44:00] The “Reverse Golden Rule” that every people-pleaser needs to hear [00:53:36] Oliver’s favorite meditation for starting from sanity Episode Takeaways:

You’re not lazy — you’re stuck in the illusion of finding a perfect decision. Accepting your finitude might be your greatest advantage.

Momentum doesn’t come from thinking your way into action. Start small. Make a decision. Any decision.

The most powerful personal brand you can build is the one where you drop the mask.

If your perfectionism is driving your productivity, it’s probably also driving your burnout.

You can’t outsource meaning — you have to make the hard trade-offs and choose your consequences intentionally.

Start embodying who you want to be now, not later. Even 10 minutes a day can shift your identity.

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Curious about your influence level? 

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Take this 60-second quiz to find out how your influence stacks up against top performers at theartofcharm.com/influence. Resources from this Episode Meditations for Mortals: Four Weeks to Embrace Your Limitations and Make Time for What Counts Oliver Burkeman’s website Check in with AJ and Johnny! AJ on LinkedIn Johnny on LinkedIn AJ on Instagram Johnny on Instagram The Art of Charm on Instagram The Art of Charm on YouTube The Art of Charm on TikTok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
0:00 1:08:53

Validation Ladder: 8 Skills That Build Incredible Relationships | Dr. Caroline Fleck

Hosts
Johnny AJ
Guests
Dr. Caroline Fleck
In today’s episode, we’re joined by Dr. Caroline Fleck—licensed psychologist, corporate consultant, and Stanford adjunct. With years of clinical practice and executive coaching under her belt, Dr. Fleck has developed powerful validation techniques that help high performers build authentic relationships and navigate complex conversations. Her groundbreaking work, detailed in her new book, Validation, transforms the way professionals connect both personally and professionally. 

Join us for a compelling conversation with Dr. Caroline Fleck as she reveals why the art of validation is your secret weapon—and how embracing vulnerability, strategic empathy, and even unconventional self-disclosure can transform your leadership. Dr. Fleck shares proven insights from her work in clinical psychology and executive coaching, and explains why emotional intelligence is your ultimate edge in today's fast-paced world. What to Listen For Introduction – 00:00:00 Why is validation psychology’s best-kept secret—and how is it different from praise or agreement? The Eight Levels of Validation – 00:04:10

What are the eight levels of validation, and how do they build on each other to create emotional depth and rapport?

Why is attending the foundation of every meaningful interaction—and how can you practice it today?

What makes copying such a surprisingly powerful way to signal connection and build trust?

Contextualizing and Equalizing – 00:23:06

How does contextualizing help you understand behavior that seems irrational or frustrating on the surface?

What’s the key to equalizing without hijacking the conversation or minimizing the other person’s experience?

Proposing and Taking Action – 00:36:43

How can you “listen to the unsaid” and use proposing to surface unspoken thoughts or emotions?

How can misusing action harm relationships—and what should you do instead?

Emoting and Disclosure – 00:47:10

Why is emoting such a powerful signal of empathy, and how can you practice it without feeling awkward?

What makes disclosure the highest—and riskiest—form of validation, especially in professional settings?

Why emotional intelligence is more essential than ever in the age of AI

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Unleash the power of covert networking to infiltrate high-value circles and build a 7-figure network in just 90 days. Ready to start? Check out our CIA-proven guide to networking like a spy!

Indulge in affordable luxury with Quince—where high-end essentials meet unbeatable prices. Upgrade your wardrobe today at quince.com/charm for free shipping and hassle-free returns.

Ready to turn your business idea into reality? Shopify makes it easy to start, scale, and succeed—whether you're launching a side hustle or building the next big brand. Sign up for your $1/month trial at shopify.com/charm.

Need to hire top talent—fast? Skip the waiting game and get more qualified applicants with Indeed. Claim your $75 Sponsored Job Credit now at Indeed.com/charm.

Curious about your influence level? 

Get your Influence Index Score today!

Take this 60-second quiz to find out how your influence stacks up against top performers at theartofcharm.com/influence. Resources from this Episode Validation: How the Skill Set That Revolutionized Psychology Will Transform Your Relationships, Increase Your Influence, and Change Your Life Dr Caroline Fleck’s website Check in with AJ and Johnny! AJ on LinkedIn Johnny on LinkedIn AJ on Instagram Johnny on Instagram The Art of Charm on Instagram The Art of Charm on YouTube The Art of Charm on TikTok

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