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The Vergecast is the flagship podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, hosts Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And every Tuesday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives – and which ones you should bring into yours.
The Vergecast is the flagship podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, hosts Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And every Tuesday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives – and which ones you should bring into yours.
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Victoria Song is a staff writer at The Verge, focusing on consumer technology and gadgets. She recently tested Google's prototype AI smart glasses and has expertise in wearable technology, augmented reality, and the competitive landscape involving companies like Google, Meta, and Apple.
Victoria Song is a staff writer at The Verge, focusing on consumer technology and gadgets. She recently tested Google's prototype AI smart glasses and has expertise in wearable technology, augmented reality, and the competitive landscape involving companies like Google, Meta, and Apple.
Allison Johnson is a staff writer at The Verge, focusing on Apple and consumer technology, providing insights and reviews on the latest software and hardware updates.
Allison Johnson is a staff writer at The Verge, focusing on Apple and consumer technology, providing insights and reviews on the latest software and hardware updates.
Lauren Feiner is a reporter for The Verge, covering technology and policy. She has been reporting from the DC courthouse on the Meta antitrust trial and the Google search remedies trial, providing insights and updates on these significant monopoly cases.
Lauren Feiner is a reporter for The Verge, covering technology and policy. She has been reporting from the DC courthouse on the Meta antitrust trial and the Google search remedies trial, providing insights and updates on these significant monopoly cases.
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Liquid Glass, Spotlight, and the rest of WWDC 2025
Hosts
Hosts of this podcast episode
Nilay PatelDavid Pierce
Guests
Guests of this podcast episode
Victoria SongAllison Johnson
Keywords
Keywords of this podcast episode
Liquid GlassWWDC 2025Apple software redesignSpotlight on MaciPad multitaskingiPhone typing indicatorsWorkout Buddy on Watchpersonas on Vision ProApple operating systemsChatGPT integrationlanguage barriers in Apple messagingmacOS TahoeApple Spotlight upgradesiPadOS 26watchOS 26visionOS 26AirPods updateApple Games app
Apple spent 90 minutes talking about the future of its software, and we're pretty sure only said the word "Siri" once. Nilay and David are joined by The Verge's Victoria Song and Allison Johnson, both of whom were with Nilay at the keynote, to talk about all the news of the day. They talk about the Liquid Glass design language, and why Apple decided to redesign all its software. They talk about Spotlight on the Mac, the new multitasking features on the iPad, the typing indicators on the iPhone, Workout Buddy on the Watch, personas on the Vision Pro, and everything else that Apple announced or, in a few cases, pointedly didn't announce on stage. We're just starting to try out some of this software, and it's all likely to change a lot before it hits your devices this fall. And we'll have lots of thoughts along the way.
Further reading:
Apple renames its operating systems
Apples new design language is Liquid Glass
Apples Liquid Glass redesign doesnt look like much
Apples ChatGPT integration makes it easier to search for more context on images and shop for things they see.
Apple Intelligence takes on language barriers in messages and phone calls.
Apple announces macOS Tahoe 26 with new design and revamped search features
Apples Spotlight upgrades in macOS Tahoe have power users in mind
Apple launches iPadOS 26 with a new look and way better multitasking
Apple announces watchOS 26 with a wrist flick gesture and AI Workout Buddy
Apples visionOS 26 adds PSVR2 controller support and spatial widgets
Apples AirPods update adds camera controls and more
Apples new Games app lets you challenge your friends
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Apple spent 90 minutes talking about the future of its software, and we're pretty sure only said the word "Siri" once. Nilay and David are joined by The Verge's Victoria Song and Allison Johnson, both of whom were with Nilay at the keynote, to talk about all the news of the day. They talk about the Liquid Glass design language, and why Apple decided to redesign all its software. They talk about Spotlight on the Mac, the new multitasking features on the iPad, the typing indicators on the iPhone, Workout Buddy on the Watch, personas on the Vision Pro, and everything else that Apple announced or, in a few cases, pointedly didn't announce on stage. We're just starting to try out some of this software, and it's all likely to change a lot before it hits your devices this fall. And we'll have lots of thoughts along the way.
Further reading:
Apple renames its operating systems
Apples new design language is Liquid Glass
Apples Liquid Glass redesign doesnt look like much
Apples ChatGPT integration makes it easier to search for more context on images and shop for things they see.
Apple Intelligence takes on language barriers in messages and phone calls.
Apple announces macOS Tahoe 26 with new design and revamped search features
Apples Spotlight upgrades in macOS Tahoe have power users in mind
Apple launches iPadOS 26 with a new look and way better multitasking
Apple announces watchOS 26 with a wrist flick gesture and AI Workout Buddy
Apples visionOS 26 adds PSVR2 controller support and spatial widgets
Apples AirPods update adds camera controls and more
Apples new Games app lets you challenge your friends
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0:001:38:03
Previewing Apple's 2025 WWDC
Hosts
Hosts of this podcast episode
Nilay PatelDavid Pierce
Guests
Guests of this podcast episode
Joanna Stern
Keywords
Keywords of this podcast episode
Apple WWDC 2025Nintendo Switch 2smart glassesAI gadgetsfediverse projects
Developer conference season is almost over, but we've got one show left to see: Apple's WWDC begins on Monday. Nilay, David, and Joanna Stern spend time going through both what they expect to see at the show, and why this year's WWDC might feel a bit different than in years past. Apple is in a tricky place with regulators, developers, and users alike, and has some genuine explaining to do. After that, they talk about the launch of the Nintendo Switch 2, and David's surprisingly easy adventure to acquire one. We also have a bit of smart glasses and AI gadgets news to discuss, so we do that too. Then it's time for Brendan Carr is a Dummy, and an update on a couple of the interesting new fediverse projects launching this week.
Further reading:
Verge subscriptions are on sale 40 percent off
American Society of Magazine Editors Announces National Magazine Awards 2025 Winners
Apple ordered to keep web links in the App Store
Payment companies team up to help developers ditch App Store billing
Apple could be adding camera controls and sleep detection to your AirPods
Switch 2 launch: where to find restocks online and in-store
Look inside the Nintendo Switch 2 with the console’s first teardown
Mario Kart World’s designers had to rethink everything to make it open world
Nintendo is updating even more games for the Switch 2 Here’s what’s inside Meta’s experimental new smart glasses
Meta’s reportedly shopping for exclusive content on its upcoming VR headset
Meta reportedly sidelined ‘Quest 4’ designs for a goggles-like mixed-reality headset
FCC investigation looms over EchoStar’s missed interest payments and a new satellite
From Ars Technica: FCC Republican resigns, leaving agency with just two commissioners
Jony Ive’s OpenAI device gets the Laurene Powell Jobs nod of approval
ChatGPT’s goal is to be a ‘super assistant’ for every part of your life
Email us at [email protected] or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you.
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Developer conference season is almost over, but we've got one show left to see: Apple's WWDC begins on Monday. Nilay, David, and Joanna Stern spend time going through both what they expect to see at the show, and why this year's WWDC might feel a bit different than in years past. Apple is in a tricky place with regulators, developers, and users alike, and has some genuine explaining to do. After that, they talk about the launch of the Nintendo Switch 2, and David's surprisingly easy adventure to acquire one. We also have a bit of smart glasses and AI gadgets news to discuss, so we do that too. Then it's time for Brendan Carr is a Dummy, and an update on a couple of the interesting new fediverse projects launching this week.
Further reading:
Verge subscriptions are on sale 40 percent off
American Society of Magazine Editors Announces National Magazine Awards 2025 Winners
Apple ordered to keep web links in the App Store
Payment companies team up to help developers ditch App Store billing
Apple could be adding camera controls and sleep detection to your AirPods
Switch 2 launch: where to find restocks online and in-store
Look inside the Nintendo Switch 2 with the console’s first teardown
Mario Kart World’s designers had to rethink everything to make it open world
Nintendo is updating even more games for the Switch 2 Here’s what’s inside Meta’s experimental new smart glasses
Meta’s reportedly shopping for exclusive content on its upcoming VR headset
Meta reportedly sidelined ‘Quest 4’ designs for a goggles-like mixed-reality headset
FCC investigation looms over EchoStar’s missed interest payments and a new satellite
From Ars Technica: FCC Republican resigns, leaving agency with just two commissioners
Jony Ive’s OpenAI device gets the Laurene Powell Jobs nod of approval
ChatGPT’s goal is to be a ‘super assistant’ for every part of your life
Email us at [email protected] or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you.
Help us plan for the future of The Vergecast by filling out a brief survey: voxmedia.com/survey.
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0:001:09:31
One company's quest for the perfect charger
Hosts
Hosts of this podcast episode
Nilay PatelDavid Pierce
Guests
Guests of this podcast episode
Andrew GreenTina Nguyen
Keywords
Keywords of this podcast episode
chargerThe God CablePowerCordBitcoincryptocurrencyAI chatbots
We've talked many times on The Vergecast about the dream of the perfect charger. We call it The God Cable, and imagine it would charge everything, at full optimized speed, no matter what you plug in. Well, one company tried to make it – sort of. TwelveSouth founder Andrew Green joins the show to talk about how his company developed its newest product, the PowerCord, and why actually the God Cable might be both impossible and a bad idea. After that, The Verge's Tina Nguyen joins the show to talk about her experience at Bitcoin 2025 in Las Vegas, the rise of $TRUMP, and how crypto and the government became so intertwined. Finally, we answer a question from the Vergecast Hotline about AI agents, and the tasks we should (and shouldn't) offload to our chatbots.
Further reading:
The TwelveSouth PowerCord
The Vergecast USB-C Holiday Spec-tacular
Everything you need to know about switching to USB-C
How a crypto bro shorted $TRUMP coin — and scored a dinner with the President
Presidential seals, $100,000 watches, and a Marriott afterparty
Trump’s media company says it’s buying $2.5 billion in Bitcoin
The Strategic Bitcoin Reserve Act will soon ramp up in Congress.
Crypto funds seized by the government may go into a ‘digital Fort Knox’
Google’s future is Google googling
OpenAI’s new Operator AI agent can do things on the web for you
Email us at [email protected] or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you.
Fill out a brief survey and tell us what you want from The Vergecast: voxmedia.com/survey.
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We've talked many times on The Vergecast about the dream of the perfect charger. We call it The God Cable, and imagine it would charge everything, at full optimized speed, no matter what you plug in. Well, one company tried to make it – sort of. TwelveSouth founder Andrew Green joins the show to talk about how his company developed its newest product, the PowerCord, and why actually the God Cable might be both impossible and a bad idea. After that, The Verge's Tina Nguyen joins the show to talk about her experience at Bitcoin 2025 in Las Vegas, the rise of $TRUMP, and how crypto and the government became so intertwined. Finally, we answer a question from the Vergecast Hotline about AI agents, and the tasks we should (and shouldn't) offload to our chatbots.
Further reading:
The TwelveSouth PowerCord
The Vergecast USB-C Holiday Spec-tacular
Everything you need to know about switching to USB-C
How a crypto bro shorted $TRUMP coin — and scored a dinner with the President
Presidential seals, $100,000 watches, and a Marriott afterparty
Trump’s media company says it’s buying $2.5 billion in Bitcoin
The Strategic Bitcoin Reserve Act will soon ramp up in Congress.
Crypto funds seized by the government may go into a ‘digital Fort Knox’
Google’s future is Google googling
OpenAI’s new Operator AI agent can do things on the web for you
Email us at [email protected] or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you.
Fill out a brief survey and tell us what you want from The Vergecast: voxmedia.com/survey.
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0:001:38:31
Can a redesign save Apple's software?
Hosts
Hosts of this podcast episode
Nilay PatelDavid Pierce
Guests
Guests of this podcast episode
Sundar Pichai
Keywords
Keywords of this podcast episode
Apple redesignsWWDCApple softwareAI-ificationGoogle CEO Sundar PichaiNintendo Switch 2tariff newsGame Centeroperating systemsAI industrygenerative AIArc browserfiber internetFCCNintendo Switch
It's a slowish news week ahead of some very busy news weeks, so of course Nilay and David start the show with a long discussion about party speakers. Eventually, they get into the news, beginning with some of the huge Apple redesigns planned for WWDC in June. For the first time in a long time, the stakes for Apple's software teams feel really high. After that, the hosts talk about Nilay's recent interview with Google CEO Sundar Pichai, and what the AI-ification of everything means for the future of the web. Finally, in the lightning round, it's time for another Brendan Carr is a Dummy, plus some talk about the Nintendo Switch 2, a bit of confusing tariff news, and more.
Further reading:
Graduation and prom season in full force, Alan sends a graduation procession with a party speaker on… her head?
So so many softball and baseball games, Luis tips us to the Yankees
Incredible at a dentist office from Oktawian
Apple is reportedly going to rename all of its operating systems
Apple is ready to replace Game Center with a more Xbox-like gaming app
Get ready for Apple’s glassy operating systems overhaul.
Nick Clegg says asking artists for use permission would ‘kill’ the AI industry
The New York Times’ first generative AI deal is with Amazon
The Browser Company explains why it stopped developing Arc
The plan for nationwide fiber internet might be upended for Starlink
FCC Commissioner Labels Trump Push to Chill Speech an ‘Administration-Wide Effort’
Carr's attack on Ergen looks gross
Shut Down the Federal Communications Commission
With the Switch, technology finally caught up to Nintendo
Nintendo’s bold new era is full of safe bets
The Nintendo Switch was an indie game haven, until it was overrun with slop
The Nintendo Switch 2 sure seems to work just fine with a USB mouse
There’s a Switch 2 unboxing video already.
Email us at [email protected] or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
It's a slowish news week ahead of some very busy news weeks, so of course Nilay and David start the show with a long discussion about party speakers. Eventually, they get into the news, beginning with some of the huge Apple redesigns planned for WWDC in June. For the first time in a long time, the stakes for Apple's software teams feel really high. After that, the hosts talk about Nilay's recent interview with Google CEO Sundar Pichai, and what the AI-ification of everything means for the future of the web. Finally, in the lightning round, it's time for another Brendan Carr is a Dummy, plus some talk about the Nintendo Switch 2, a bit of confusing tariff news, and more.
Further reading:
Graduation and prom season in full force, Alan sends a graduation procession with a party speaker on… her head?
So so many softball and baseball games, Luis tips us to the Yankees
Incredible at a dentist office from Oktawian
Apple is reportedly going to rename all of its operating systems
Apple is ready to replace Game Center with a more Xbox-like gaming app
Get ready for Apple’s glassy operating systems overhaul.
Nick Clegg says asking artists for use permission would ‘kill’ the AI industry
The New York Times’ first generative AI deal is with Amazon
The Browser Company explains why it stopped developing Arc
The plan for nationwide fiber internet might be upended for Starlink
FCC Commissioner Labels Trump Push to Chill Speech an ‘Administration-Wide Effort’
Carr's attack on Ergen looks gross
Shut Down the Federal Communications Commission
With the Switch, technology finally caught up to Nintendo
Nintendo’s bold new era is full of safe bets
The Nintendo Switch was an indie game haven, until it was overrun with slop
The Nintendo Switch 2 sure seems to work just fine with a USB mouse
There’s a Switch 2 unboxing video already.
Email us at [email protected] or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
0:001:23:42
Inside the Meta monopoly trial
Hosts
Hosts of this podcast episode
Nilay PatelDavid Pierce
Guests
Guests of this podcast episode
Lauren FeinerVictoria Song
Keywords
Keywords of this podcast episode
Meta monopoly trialantitrustGoogle smart glassesAndroid XRMozilla Pocket shutdownWhatsAppInstagramTikTokOpenAIJony Ive
After more than a month of testimony, the Meta antirust trial is beginning to slow down. The Google search remedies trial, meanwhile, is about to heat up again, with closing arguments coming soon. The Verge’s Lauren Feiner has been in the DC courthouse for all of it, and has finally emerged to tell us about what she’s seen, and learned, from two all-important monopoly trials. After that, The Verge’s Victoria Song tells us about her latest experience with Google’s smart glasses prototypes, what Google is doing differently from Meta and Apple, and what she thinks Jony Ive and OpenAI might be building. Finally, we answer a question on the Vergecast Hotline about what to do now that Mozilla is shutting down Pocket.
FTC v. Meta: The antitrust battle over WhatsApp and Instagram
Did WhatsApp really need Meta?
Why the FTC argues Meta is a closer rival to MeWe than TikTok
Instagram CEO testifies about competing with TikTok: ‘You’re either growing, or you’re slowly dying’
Android XR is getting stylish partners in Warby Parker, Gentle Monster
Xreal teases Project Aura smart glasses for Android XR
We tried on Google’s prototype AI smart glasses
Android XR and Project Moohan hands-on: Gemini is the killer app
Mozilla is shutting down Pocket
Raindrop.io
Instapaper
Matter
Wallabag
Readwise Reader
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After more than a month of testimony, the Meta antirust trial is beginning to slow down. The Google search remedies trial, meanwhile, is about to heat up again, with closing arguments coming soon. The Verge’s Lauren Feiner has been in the DC courthouse for all of it, and has finally emerged to tell us about what she’s seen, and learned, from two all-important monopoly trials. After that, The Verge’s Victoria Song tells us about her latest experience with Google’s smart glasses prototypes, what Google is doing differently from Meta and Apple, and what she thinks Jony Ive and OpenAI might be building. Finally, we answer a question on the Vergecast Hotline about what to do now that Mozilla is shutting down Pocket.
FTC v. Meta: The antitrust battle over WhatsApp and Instagram
Did WhatsApp really need Meta?
Why the FTC argues Meta is a closer rival to MeWe than TikTok
Instagram CEO testifies about competing with TikTok: ‘You’re either growing, or you’re slowly dying’
Android XR is getting stylish partners in Warby Parker, Gentle Monster
Xreal teases Project Aura smart glasses for Android XR
We tried on Google’s prototype AI smart glasses
Android XR and Project Moohan hands-on: Gemini is the killer app
Mozilla is shutting down Pocket
Raindrop.io
Instapaper
Matter
Wallabag
Readwise Reader
Email us at [email protected] or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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