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Clean tech, green finance and energy innovation are the three lanes on the road to a successful global energy transition. At the intersection of these lanes is a place where ideas on finance, technology and policy are shared and debated. That intersection is Interchange Recharged.  

Sylvia Leyva Martinez, principal analyst at Wood Mackenzie, invites visionaries, entrepreneurs, policy-makers and energy analysts to explore the newest developments in renewable technology, explain the ideas on global energy policy that could accelerate the energy transition, and identify new funding and financial models that could solve the biggest challenges we face on the way to net zero.  

Sylvia and her guests bring you data and forecasts on clean technology, climate science, and offer predictions on the build out of utility-scale projects and the future of green finance. 

What impacts do the annual UN Conference of the Parties have on decarbonisation goals and climate change? What will COP30 bring? What’s happening in global EV adoption and development? What’s the forecast for solar energy, one of the major success stories of renewable energy in the last ten years? What does the data tell us about the future of hydrogen, of nuclear, or of low-carbon power?  These are examples of the insights and detailed analyses you can expect bi-weekly on Tuesdays at 7am ET.  


If you like The Energy Transition ShowCatalyst with Shayle Kann, The Big Switch from Columbia University, Open Circuit with Stephen Lacey or The Green Blueprint, you’ll enjoy Interchange Recharged. 

 

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Check out another leading clean tech global podcast by Wood Mackenzie, Energy Gang, at woodmac.com/podcasts/the-energy-gang 

Wood Mackenzie is the leading global data and analytics solutions provider for renewables, energy and natural resources. Learn more about Wood Mackenzie on the official website: https://www.woodmac.com/ 

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Sylvia Leyva Martinez

Previous Guests

David Carroll
David Carroll is the Chief Renewables Officer at ENGIE, where he oversees the company's renewable energy initiatives. With extensive experience in the energy sector, he focuses on navigating the complexities of policy and market dynamics affecting solar investment in the U.S.
Sarah Noll
Sarah Noll is an industry expert in solar and energy storage, known for her insights on regulatory challenges and customer engagement. She has worked with Arizona Public Service to develop strategies that enhance grid flexibility and promote technology adoption among consumers.
Shyam Srinivasan
Shyam Srinivasan is the CEO of Zitara, a company specializing in energy storage solutions. He has a strong background in software integration for energy systems and advocates for improved diagnostics and decision-making tools to enhance storage performance and market reliability.
Samantha Frisk
Samantha Frisk is a representative from Pivot Energy, where she focuses on community solar development. She emphasizes the importance of early community engagement and building trusted partnerships to foster support for solar initiatives and promote local benefits.
Ben Sigrin
Ben Sigrin is a Senior Product Manager at GridBeyond, where he focuses on optimizing solar and storage solutions in real-time to help developers navigate market volatility. With a background in renewable energy and technology, he has been instrumental in driving innovations that support the growth of solar energy markets.
Peter Findlay
Peter Findlay is the Director of CCUS Economics at Wood Mackenzie, where he specializes in the economic aspects of carbon capture, utilization, and storage (CCUS) projects. With extensive experience in the energy sector, Peter provides insights into the financial challenges and regulatory barriers that impact the deployment of decarbonisation technologies.
Liz McGinley
Liz McGinley is a partner at Bracewell Law Firm, leading the firm's tax practice and energy transition team. She is renowned for her expertise in carbon capture and the intricacies of tax credits related to the energy sector, particularly the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA). Liz's work focuses on navigating the legal and regulatory landscape to facilitate the growth of clean energy initiatives.
Mike Hall
Mike Hall is the CEO of Anza Renewables, a company focused on advancing solar energy solutions. With extensive experience in the renewable energy sector, he has been instrumental in analyzing market data and trends, particularly in relation to supply chain diversification and financial incentives for solar developers. Under his leadership, Anza Renewables has been actively involved in addressing the challenges posed by federal policies and market dynamics in the solar industry.
Bridget Van Dorsten
Bridget Van Dorsten is a hydrogen analyst with expertise in the hydrogen energy sector. She has a background in energy policy and market analysis, focusing on the development and deployment of hydrogen projects. Bridget has been involved in various initiatives aimed at understanding the challenges and opportunities within the hydrogen market, particularly in relation to green hydrogen.
Carl Cho
Carl Cho is the Director of Clean Energy Finance at Citibank, where he specializes in financing clean energy projects, including hydrogen initiatives. With extensive experience in energy finance, Carl provides insights into the economic aspects of hydrogen production and the investment landscape. He is known for analyzing the 'hype cycle' surrounding emerging energy technologies and advising on long-term investment strategies.

Topics Discussed

solar industry energy storage trade wars policy chaos sodium-ion batteries tax credit policy VPPS regulatory challenges customer trust tech adoption grid flexibility community solar development agrivoltaics solar panels grid optimisation market volatility solar and storage smart site selection renewable technology CCUS decarbonisation permitting reform tax credits regulatory frameworks financial mechanisms clean energy energy transition solar capacity federal tax credits trade policies investors supply chains financial incentives domestic manufacturing China Trump's tariffs solar investment green hydrogen blue hydrogen hydrogen projects financing hurdles off-take uncertainty scaling hydrogen economics of hydrogen production microgrids industrial hubs

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0:00 50:04

Solar and energy storage experts debate the current market: what have we seen in the first quarter of 2025?

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Sylvia Leyva Martinez
Guests
David Carroll Sarah Noll Shyam Srinivasan Samantha Frisk
Keywords
solar industry energy storage trade wars policy chaos sodium-ion batteries tax credit policy VPPS regulatory challenges customer trust tech adoption grid flexibility community solar development agrivoltaics

Wood Mackenzies 18th Solar and Energy Storage summit is back, in Denver this week. If you cant make it, dont worry we have all the debate and key insight you need to know here on the podcast.

Recorded live on day 1 of the summit, host Sylvia Leyva Martinez talks to four industry leaders in solar and storage to answer these questions:

Can the U.S. solar industry keep up with demand amid trade wars and policy chaos? Discussing this is David Carroll, ENGIEs Chief Renewables Officer. He warns that policy uncertainty and tariff whiplash are stalling U.S. solar investment. Sylvia and David look at sodium-ion batteries; are they a safer option? Plus, more domestic energy storage is needed amid growing calls for stable tax credit policy to meet growing electricity demand. A must-hear for developers navigating todays volatile energy landscape.

What about VPPS? Can they scale fast enough to provide a real alternative? Answering this is Sarah Noll, She shares insights on regulatory challenges, customer trust, and tech adoption, showing how the Arizona Public Service is turning grid flexibility into a real growth strategy.

Are storage operators leaving millions on the table because they dont understand their own batteries? Thats the big question Shyam Srinivasan, CEO of Zitara, answers with Sylvia. He reveals how poor software integration is holding back storage performance. As storage scales rapidly, Shyam stresses the need for better diagnostics and real-time decision tools to optimise revenue, reliability, and resilience - especially in merchant markets.

Finally, Samantha Frisk from Pivot energy sits down with Sylvia to look at models for community solar development. Sam explains how early engagement, local benefits like agrivoltaics, and trusted partnerships can turn sceptical communities into solar advocates - proving clean energy can uplift as well as decarbonise.

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0:00 28:27

Its uncertain times in solar and storage. How can we use smarter grid optimisation to give developers some assurance? | Recorded live at SESS 2025

Hosts
Sylvia Leyva Martinez
Guests
Ben Sigrin
Keywords
solar panels grid optimisation market volatility solar and storage smart site selection energy storage renewable technology

Over the past couple of years unprecedented low prices for solar panels have spurred incredible growth. But theres a big shift underway. 

In this special episode of the show, recorded live from the stage at Wood Mackenzies Solar & Energy Storage Summit 2025, host Sylvia Leyva Martinez, Principal Analyst at Wood Mackenzie, sits down with Ben Sigrin, Senior Product Manager at GridBeyond, to make sense of the turbulent market. 

With nearly 44 gigawatts of new solar expected this year, developers are under pressure to make faster, smarter decisions. GridBeyond helps solar and storage players optimise in real time, turning market volatility into opportunity. How do they do it? Are there other ways for off takers to get some certainty? Smart site selection is one of them, but what informs those decisions? Plus, hear the lessons from global solar markets that developers are bringing to the US.  

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0:00 46:38

Are current legal frameworks too restrictive for CCUS projects? What permitting and tax credit reform needs to happen to make things easier?

Hosts
Sylvia Leyva Martinez
Guests
Peter Findlay Liz McGinley
Keywords
CCUS decarbonisation permitting reform tax credits regulatory frameworks financial mechanisms clean energy energy transition

“If you don't think in 15 years that we're going to value decarbonisation, or if you're worried about the 45Q, it's pretty tough to write that multi-billion dollar cheque,” says Peter Findlay, Director of CCUS Economics at Wood Mackenzie. In this week’s Interchange Recharged, Peter sits down again with host Sylvia Leyva Martinez to look at the challenges for new CCUS projects. It’s tough, as Peter says, because of the regulatory frameworks, financial mechanisms and incentives that currently exist in the US. 

To look at these and go deep on the legal barriers for CCUS deployment, Peter and Sylvia are also joined by Liz McGinley, partner at Bracewell Law Firm. Liz leads the firm’s tax practice and the energy transition team, and is renowned for her expertise in carbon capture and IRA tax credits. 

Liz discusses the intricate details of tax credits and regulatory updates while Peter reflects on the financial challenges of decarbonisation projects. In this episode:

  • What will future legislative shifts mean for the industry’s growth? 
  • How might regulatory shifts under the Trump administration impact clean energy and CCUS projects, including potential changes to clean hydrogen, fuels, and power regulations?
  • How do the costs and complexities of pre-combustion and post-combustion CCUS projects differ, and how are financial incentives structured for each?


For more detailed analyis, check out the Lens reports from Wood Mac. Lens is a data analytics platform with sector-specific insights to help you power your Business Intelligence tools. Find it at woodmac.com/lens

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0:00 21:47

Uncertainty isn’t good for domestic solar manufacturing. How are suppliers and utilities managing it?

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Sylvia Leyva Martinez
Guests
Mike Hall
Keywords
solar capacity energy transition federal tax credits trade policies investors supply chains financial incentives domestic manufacturing China Trump's tariffs solar investment

The US is projected to add an additional 26 GW of solar capacity in 2025. Solar has been one of the energy transition’s biggest success stories, but there are dark clouds gathering. Uncertainty is the biggest barrier to deployment at the moment: there’s potential changes coming with federal tax credits and trade policies (some of which are already having an impact), and the perceived risks are high for investors of solar projects. 

To find out how developers and manufacturers are mitigating these risks, Sylvia Leyva Martinez, principal analyst covering solar markets at Wood Mackenzie, is joined by Mike Hall, CEO of Anza Renewables. Mike talks through the data he’s analysing; Anza is seeing supply chains diversify and financial incentives like the ITC Adder helping developers.  

Despite efforts to bolster domestic manufacturing, China continues to dominate the global solar market. What are the impacts of Trump’s tariffs on domestic manufacturing? With a quarter of the year already gone, what have we seen in solar investment? How can long-term planning be done when so much is up in the air?

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0:00 32:21

Is the world giving up on green hydrogen? | Hydrogen energy is having an identity crisis but who’s to blame?

Hosts
Sylvia Leyva Martinez
Guests
Bridget Van Dorsten Carl Cho
Keywords
green hydrogen blue hydrogen hydrogen projects financing hurdles off-take uncertainty scaling hydrogen economics of hydrogen production microgrids industrial hubs

In 2025, the US will consolidate its position as a blue-focused hydrogen market, driven by policy developments under a second Trump administration. A surge in blue hydrogen investment – with at least three large-scale blue hydrogen projects reaching FID – will see the US emerge as the world's leading blue hydrogen producer. So what about the much-hyped green hydrogen? Has the industry given up on it? 

To find out, host Sylvia Leyva Martinez, principal analyst at Wood Mackenzie, is joined by hydrogen analyst Bridget Van Dorsten. Bridget explains why, despite massive project announcements, only a fraction of hydrogen projects have actually moved forward. What are the biggest roadblocks to deployment? Already in 2025 we’re seeing financing hurdles, off-take uncertainty, and the challenges of scaling both green and blue hydrogen. To unpack the financial hurdles, Carl Cho - Director of Clean Energy Finance at Citibank – also joins the show. He breaks down the "hype cycle" surrounding hydrogen and why investors are hesitant to commit to long-term deals. 

Plus, Bridget and Carl look at the economics of hydrogen production, the learning curve of building large-scale infrastructure, and whether small, localised projects could be a better approach. They also debate economies of scale vs. economies of production and how hydrogen might fit into the future of energy. Sylvia thinks it could be better suited to a localised role in microgrids, industrial hubs, but what about data center energy demands? 

 

For more on this, check out the Lens Hydrogen report from Wood Mac. Lens is a data analytics platform with sector-specific insights to help you power your Business Intelligence tools. Find it at woodmac.com/lens

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