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You might think you know what it takes to lead a happier life… more money, a better job, or Instagram-worthy vacations. You’re dead wrong. Yale professor Dr. Laurie Santos has studied the science of happiness and found that many of us do the exact opposite of what will truly make our lives better. Based on the psychology course she teaches at Yale -- the most popular class in the university’s 300-year history -- Laurie will take you through the latest scientific research and share some surprising and inspiring stories that will change the way you think about happiness.

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Here's a quick summary of the last 5 episodes on The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos.

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Dr. Sue Varma
Dr. Sue Varma is a psychiatrist known for her work in mental health and resilience. She gained recognition for her innovative approach to optimism, particularly through her experiences treating individuals affected by the 9/11 attacks. Dr. Varma developed the concept of 'practical optimism', which emphasizes actionable strategies for cultivating a positive mindset. She is also the author of the book 'Practical Optimism: The Art, Science, and Practice of Exceptional Well-Being', where she shares insights and techniques for enhancing well-being and coping with life's challenges.
John Green
John Green is a best-selling author, known for his young adult novels such as 'The Fault in Our Stars' and 'Looking for Alaska.' He is also a YouTube content creator and co-founder of the educational channel Crash Course. Green is an advocate for various social causes, including education and health, and has recently focused on tuberculosis awareness and fundraising through his book 'Everything is Tuberculosis.'
Michelle Obama
Michelle Obama is an American attorney, author, and former First Lady of the United States. She served as First Lady from 2009 to 2017, during which time she focused on various initiatives including education, health, and military families. She is the author of the bestselling memoir 'Becoming' and has been a prominent advocate for healthy living and education for girls.
Craig Robinson
Craig Robinson is an American basketball executive and former player. He is known for his role as a coach and for his work in sports management. He is also the brother of Michelle Obama and has been involved in various initiatives related to education and community service.
DJ DiDonna
DJ DiDonna is a sabbaticals expert and educator at Harvard Business School. He is the founder of The Sabbatical Project, which aims to help individuals take meaningful breaks from their careers to recharge and reassess their life priorities. Prior to his work in academia, DJ established a hectic start-up, which led him to realize the importance of taking an extended career break for personal wellbeing.

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optimism practical optimism mental health 9/11 well-being psychology hope problems human beings global disease tuberculosis collaboration live discussion happiness donations GiveDirectly John Green Dr. Laurie Santos science of happiness SXSW Michelle Obama Craig Robinson sabbatical wellbeing work-life balance career break

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Here's the recent few episodes on The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos.

0:00 45:04

Can You Become a "Practical" Optimist?

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Dr. Laurie Santos
Guests
Dr. Sue Varma
Keywords
optimism practical optimism mental health 9/11 well-being psychology

There are many benefits to being an optimist - particularly when things go wrong in our lives. But we aren't all naturally optimistic, so can we learn to adopt the best and most positive behaviours of born optimists?

Through treating New Yorkers caught up in the 9/11 attacks, psychiatrist Dr Sue Varma developed a concept she calls "practical optimism". She shares her tips on how we can all be more optimistic in the face of life's challenges. 

Read more in Sue's book Practical Optimism: The Art, Science, and Practice of Exceptional Well-Being  

Dr Laurie spoke to Sue Varma MD at the 2025 World Happiness Summit


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0:00 1:11:42

How to Confront the Things that Suck (Live with John Green)

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Dr. Laurie Santos
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John Green
Keywords
hope problems human beings global disease tuberculosis collaboration live discussion

Author and vlogger John Green looks around the world and sees a lot of things that suck. But rather than giving in to despair, he's trying to develop a sense of hope. He says the most "punk rock" thing to do is tackle our problems head-on. 

John embraces the motto: "Human beings can be good news!" In a live discussion with Dr Laurie, he explains that if we work together we can decrease the suck in the world and increase the awesome. 

This live event marked the publication of John's new book Everything is Tuberculosis - which argues that TB is a global disease that we can conquer right now if we put in a little bit of combined effort.

Happiness Lab listeners have already raised tens of thousands of dollar to fight TB by donating to our appeal at GiveDirectly.org/tb.


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0:00 31:02

How to be Awesome - With Almost no Effort (with John Green)

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Dr. Laurie Santos
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John Green
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happiness tuberculosis donations GiveDirectly John Green Dr. Laurie Santos

Best-selling author John Green wants to see less suck in the world and more awesome - and you can help achieve that right now! John's turned his attention to tuberculosis (TB) - a disease that is fixable and yet still kills millions of people. But you can stop that. 

TB is a disease of poverty - so if you can spare a buck, then you can save lives by donating to GiveDirectly.org/tb

Giving to help others is proven to make us feel happier and more hopeful in tough times, so Dr Laurie will match every dollar up to the first $10,000, and John will match donations up to $10,000 after that. 

It's a bad time for people everywhere - but even a dollar donated at GiveDirectly.org/tb will reduce the suck and increase the awesome. 

John's new book Everything is Tuberculosis is out now.

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0:00 58:25

How to Stay Hopeful (Live from SXSW with Michelle Obama)

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Dr. Laurie Santos
Guests
Michelle Obama Craig Robinson
Keywords
hope science of happiness SXSW Michelle Obama Craig Robinson

"What can we do to find hope when times are tough?" That was the question posed to Dr Laurie for a live recording of IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson at the 2025 SXSW festival. 

Dr Laurie explained what science says about retaining hope and how we can act in ways that make us feel better even in bleak times - and the former First Lady shared her tips for staying hopeful. 

IMO is a new show hosted by Michelle and her brother Craig - with guests ranging from Jay Shetty to Seth Rogen.  

Listen to IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson wherever you get your podcasts. 

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0:00 47:39

Why You Should Take a Few Months Off Work (Live from SXSW)

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Dr. Laurie Santos
Guests
DJ DiDonna
Keywords
sabbatical wellbeing work-life balance career break SXSW

Sometimes a two-week vacation just isn't enough - we all might need to leave our jobs for three months, six months or even a year. Taking an extended break can be great for our wellbeing - allowing us to recharge our batteries and reassess our priorities. 

But for most of us taking a sabbatical feels impossible - so live at SXSW Dr Laurie asked the advice of sabbaticals expert DJ DiDonna. DJ teaches at Harvard Business School and founded The Sabbatical Project - but in a past life he established a hectic start-up and eventually found he was badly in need of an extended career break. 

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Global:
4.7 rating 17848 reviews

USA

4.7 ratings 14000 reviews

Canada

4.8 ratings 2000 reviews

UK

4.7 ratings 774 reviews

Australia

4.7 ratings 749 reviews

New Zealand

4.8 ratings 139 reviews

South Africa

4.7 ratings 76 reviews

Ireland

4.9 ratings 64 reviews

Singapore

4.8 ratings 46 reviews