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Fault Lines, the National Security Institute’s flagship podcast, gets you quickly up to speed, three-times-a-week, on the national security and foreign policy debates shaking up America.
Our regular cast of foreign policy experts includes NSI Deputy Executive Director Martha Miller, NSI Senior Fellows Lester Munson and Morgan Viña, and Director of the NSI CTC - Howard University Cybersecurity Clinic Jessica Jones.
Tune in to learn more about the issues dominating headlines and the news stories you may have missed.
Fault Lines, the National Security Institute’s flagship podcast, gets you quickly up to speed, three-times-a-week, on the national security and foreign policy debates shaking up America.
Our regular cast of foreign policy experts includes NSI Deputy Executive Director Martha Miller, NSI Senior Fellows Lester Munson and Morgan Viña, and Director of the NSI CTC - Howard University Cybersecurity Clinic Jessica Jones.
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Recent Hosts, Guests & Topics
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Hosts
Jessica Jones
Morgan Via
Martha Miller
Lester Munson
Les
Martha
Jess
Previous Guests
Amy Mitchell
Amy Mitchell is a senior fellow at the National Security Institute, specializing in national security and foreign policy analysis. She has extensive experience in defense policy and has contributed to various discussions on military strategy and international relations.
Amy Mitchell is a senior fellow at the National Security Institute, specializing in national security and foreign policy analysis. She has extensive experience in defense policy and has contributed to various discussions on military strategy and international relations.
Algene Sajery
Algene Sajery is a prominent figure in the field of national security, known for his insights on European defense dynamics and U.S. foreign policy. He has worked with various think tanks and has a background in international relations, focusing on transatlantic security issues.
Algene Sajery is a prominent figure in the field of national security, known for his insights on European defense dynamics and U.S. foreign policy. He has worked with various think tanks and has a background in international relations, focusing on transatlantic security issues.
Bishop
Bishop is a foreign policy expert with a focus on African affairs and security issues. He has contributed to various discussions on U.S. foreign policy and its implications in conflict zones, particularly in relation to resource management and international relations.
Bishop is a foreign policy expert with a focus on African affairs and security issues. He has contributed to various discussions on U.S. foreign policy and its implications in conflict zones, particularly in relation to resource management and international relations.
Amy
Amy is a recognized analyst in national security and foreign policy, with a particular interest in the intersection of natural resources and geopolitical stability. She has been involved in discussions surrounding U.S. strategies in Africa and the implications of international trade and security agreements.
Amy is a recognized analyst in national security and foreign policy, with a particular interest in the intersection of natural resources and geopolitical stability. She has been involved in discussions surrounding U.S. strategies in Africa and the implications of international trade and security agreements.
Topics Discussed
European security
U.S. troop withdrawal
Russia
China
defense investments
Ukraine conflict
transatlantic relationship
Cobalt
Conflict
Congo
U.S. Strategy
minerals-for-security deal
Rwandan-backed rebel groups
natural resources
regional tensions
Trump administration
Africa strategy
tariffs
global fallout
President Trump
America First
alliances
national security
global supply chain
Japan
South Korea
Israel
Episodes
Here's the recent few episodes on Fault Lines.
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Episode 440: U-Turns and Uncertainty – The Trump Administration’s Iran Dilemma
Today, Martha, Les, Andy, and Jess unpack the Trump administration’s latest mixed signals on Iran. After U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff publicly suggested the U.S. might accept uranium enrichment at levels allowed under the JCPOA, the statement was quickly walked back—raising major questions about whether the administration has a coherent strategy for talks with Tehran.
What is the Trump administration’s actual position on Iran’s nuclear program? Is Witkoff—despite his lack of diplomatic experience—shaping U.S. foreign policy by default? Can the U.S. pursue negotiations without clear parameters, or should it return to a maximum pressure campaign?
Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.
Check out these sources which helped shape our Fellows’ conversation:
Today, Martha, Les, Andy, and Jess unpack the Trump administration’s latest mixed signals on Iran. After U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff publicly suggested the U.S. might accept uranium enrichment at levels allowed under the JCPOA, the statement was quickly walked back—raising major questions about whether the administration has a coherent strategy for talks with Tehran.
What is the Trump administration’s actual position on Iran’s nuclear program? Is Witkoff—despite his lack of diplomatic experience—shaping U.S. foreign policy by default? Can the U.S. pursue negotiations without clear parameters, or should it return to a maximum pressure campaign?
Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.
Check out these sources which helped shape our Fellows’ conversation:
Episode 439: Burn It Down—Marocco’s Exit and the Future of U.S. Foreign Aid
Today, Les, Martha, and Jess unpack the surprise departure of Pete Marocco, Director of the Office of Foreign Assistance, the architect behind the Trump administration’s dismantling of U.S. foreign assistance. In less than three months, USAID has been effectively gutted, with over 6,000 programs under review and thousands of jobs in the U.S. and abroad at risk. Marocco’s approach—mirroring Elon Musk’s soon-ending stint at DOGE—has thrown American aid policy into turmoil just as China deepens its influence in key developing regions and Congress begins to push back on the administration’s agenda.
Was Marocco’s removal part of a broader shift—or just the end of a mission to dismantle American aid? Who’s actually calling the shots now, and could this signal a shift to a more measured approach to foreign assistance? And as U.S. credibility erodes abroad, will rivals like China turn this moment of disarray into a permanent strategic advantage?
Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.
Check out these sources which helped shape our Fellows’ conversation:
Today, Les, Martha, and Jess unpack the surprise departure of Pete Marocco, Director of the Office of Foreign Assistance, the architect behind the Trump administration’s dismantling of U.S. foreign assistance. In less than three months, USAID has been effectively gutted, with over 6,000 programs under review and thousands of jobs in the U.S. and abroad at risk. Marocco’s approach—mirroring Elon Musk’s soon-ending stint at DOGE—has thrown American aid policy into turmoil just as China deepens its influence in key developing regions and Congress begins to push back on the administration’s agenda.
Was Marocco’s removal part of a broader shift—or just the end of a mission to dismantle American aid? Who’s actually calling the shots now, and could this signal a shift to a more measured approach to foreign assistance? And as U.S. credibility erodes abroad, will rivals like China turn this moment of disarray into a permanent strategic advantage?
Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.
Check out these sources which helped shape our Fellows’ conversation:
Episode 438: Shifting Lines—Reduced Troops, Heightened Tensions, and the Future of European Security
Hosts
Hosts of this podcast episode
Jessica JonesMorgan Via
Guests
Guests of this podcast episode
Amy MitchellAlgene Sajery
Keywords
Keywords of this podcast episode
European securityU.S. troop withdrawalRussiaChinadefense investmentsUkraine conflicttransatlantic relationship
Today, Jess, Morgan, Amy, and Algene dive into the shifting dynamics of European security as the Trump administration reportedly considers withdrawing up to 10,000 U.S. troops from the continent, while the head of U.S. European Command and several members of Congress urge against a drawdown. At the same time, European allies are boosting their defense investments, Ukraine is accusing China of direct involvement in the conflict, and the broader transatlantic relationship faces a potential realignment.
What would a U.S. troop withdrawal signal to Russia and China? Is Europe prepared to fill the gap if the U.S. steps back? Could a force reduction undermine ceasefire efforts in Ukraine—or is this an opportunity for Europe to redefine its role in regional security?
Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.
Check out these sources which helped shape our Fellows’ conversation:
Today, Jess, Morgan, Amy, and Algene dive into the shifting dynamics of European security as the Trump administration reportedly considers withdrawing up to 10,000 U.S. troops from the continent, while the head of U.S. European Command and several members of Congress urge against a drawdown. At the same time, European allies are boosting their defense investments, Ukraine is accusing China of direct involvement in the conflict, and the broader transatlantic relationship faces a potential realignment.
What would a U.S. troop withdrawal signal to Russia and China? Is Europe prepared to fill the gap if the U.S. steps back? Could a force reduction undermine ceasefire efforts in Ukraine—or is this an opportunity for Europe to redefine its role in regional security?
Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.
Check out these sources which helped shape our Fellows’ conversation:
Today, Martha, Les, Bishop, and Amy discuss the Democratic Republic of the Congo’s plea for a minerals-for-security deal with the United States, as the country faces mounting violence and instability. With $24 trillion worth of natural resources—including critical cobalt reserves—on the line, Rwandan-backed rebel groups have seized key mining hubs in eastern Congo, killing thousands, displacing millions, and igniting regional tensions.
What’s in it for Washington, and can the Trump administration craft a consistent, credible Africa strategy? As Rwanda and Uganda continue to exploit the chaos and U.S. tariffs hamper global engagement, will this become another case where talk outpaces action? And with American companies reluctant to invest in conflict zones, is the DRC poised to become another lost front in the race for critical minerals?
Check out these sources which helped shape our Fellows’ conversation:
Today, Martha, Les, Bishop, and Amy discuss the Democratic Republic of the Congo’s plea for a minerals-for-security deal with the United States, as the country faces mounting violence and instability. With $24 trillion worth of natural resources—including critical cobalt reserves—on the line, Rwandan-backed rebel groups have seized key mining hubs in eastern Congo, killing thousands, displacing millions, and igniting regional tensions.
What’s in it for Washington, and can the Trump administration craft a consistent, credible Africa strategy? As Rwanda and Uganda continue to exploit the chaos and U.S. tariffs hamper global engagement, will this become another case where talk outpaces action? And with American companies reluctant to invest in conflict zones, is the DRC poised to become another lost front in the race for critical minerals?
Check out these sources which helped shape our Fellows’ conversation:
Today, Les, Martha, and Jess unpack the growing global fallout from President Trump’s expanding tariff agenda. With a minimum 10% tariff imposed on all imports – and significantly higher rates hitting key partners like Vietnam and the European Union – the administration’s “America First” approach is straining alliances and undercutting strategic objectives.
Will Congress push back before economic strain turns into political blowback? Can national security priorities withstand the ripple effects of a disrupted global supply chain? And as China retaliates and allies like Japan, South Korea, and Israel respond, is Trump’s trade strategy isolating America at a time when unity is essential?
Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.
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@lestermunson
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Today, Les, Martha, and Jess unpack the growing global fallout from President Trump’s expanding tariff agenda. With a minimum 10% tariff imposed on all imports – and significantly higher rates hitting key partners like Vietnam and the European Union – the administration’s “America First” approach is straining alliances and undercutting strategic objectives.
Will Congress push back before economic strain turns into political blowback? Can national security priorities withstand the ripple effects of a disrupted global supply chain? And as China retaliates and allies like Japan, South Korea, and Israel respond, is Trump’s trade strategy isolating America at a time when unity is essential?
Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.
Follow our experts on Twitter:
@NotTVJessJones
@lestermunson
@marthamillerdc
Like what we're doing here?
Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe.
And don't forget to follow @masonnatsec on Twitter!
