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Reality isn’t what you’ve been told. Cosmosis is your portal to the mysteries of UFOs, consciousness, non-human intelligence, and the unknown. Hosted by Kelly Chase and Jay Christopher King, this channel is your gateway to conversations at the bleeding edge of human discovery and the hidden forces shaping our world.
We bring you in-depth interviews with the most compelling voices in the field—researchers, experiencers, scientists, and visionaries—who challenge mainstream narratives and push the limits of what we think we know.
If you're ready to question everything and embrace the mystery, you're in the right place. Subscribe now and join us on the journey.
Learn more at Cosmosis.Media
Reality isn’t what you’ve been told. Cosmosis is your portal to the mysteries of UFOs, consciousness, non-human intelligence, and the unknown. Hosted by Kelly Chase and Jay Christopher King, this channel is your gateway to conversations at the bleeding edge of human discovery and the hidden forces shaping our world.
We bring you in-depth interviews with the most compelling voices in the field—researchers, experiencers, scientists, and visionaries—who challenge mainstream narratives and push the limits of what we think we know.
If you're ready to question everything and embrace the mystery, you're in the right place. Subscribe now and join us on the journey.
Learn more at Cosmosis.Media
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Here's a quick summary of the last 5 episodes on Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole].
Hosts
Kelly Chase
Jay Christopher King
Previous Guests
Daniel Elizondo
Daniel Elizondo is a researcher and co-author of 'Loose Threads', a work that delves into the complexities of UFO secrecy and the architecture of disinformation. He is known for his insights into the psychological aspects of the UFO phenomenon and has contributed to discussions on narrative control and the dynamics of information within intelligence structures. Elizondo's work often explores the intersection of belief, seduction, and epistemic vulnerability in the context of UFO research.
Daniel Elizondo is a researcher and co-author of 'Loose Threads', a work that delves into the complexities of UFO secrecy and the architecture of disinformation. He is known for his insights into the psychological aspects of the UFO phenomenon and has contributed to discussions on narrative control and the dynamics of information within intelligence structures. Elizondo's work often explores the intersection of belief, seduction, and epistemic vulnerability in the context of UFO research.
Dr. Garry Nolan
Dr. Garry Nolan is a prominent scientist and researcher known for his work in the field of immunology and his involvement in the study of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP). He is a professor at Stanford University and has gained recognition for his innovative approaches to understanding complex biological systems. Nolan has been involved in various initiatives aimed at exploring the implications of non-human technologies and has presented his findings at numerous conferences, including the Archives of the Impossible conference. His work often intersects with themes of ethics, technology, and the potential for contact with non-human intelligences.
Dr. Garry Nolan is a prominent scientist and researcher known for his work in the field of immunology and his involvement in the study of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP). He is a professor at Stanford University and has gained recognition for his innovative approaches to understanding complex biological systems. Nolan has been involved in various initiatives aimed at exploring the implications of non-human technologies and has presented his findings at numerous conferences, including the Archives of the Impossible conference. His work often intersects with themes of ethics, technology, and the potential for contact with non-human intelligences.
Dr. Michael P. Masters
Dr. Michael P. Masters is a biological anthropologist and author known for his work on the Extratempestrial Model, which posits that UFOs and their occupants may be future humans traveling back in time. He has published several books and articles exploring the intersection of anthropology, time travel, and the UFO phenomenon, contributing to the understanding of non-human intelligence and its implications for human history and future.
Dr. Michael P. Masters is a biological anthropologist and author known for his work on the Extratempestrial Model, which posits that UFOs and their occupants may be future humans traveling back in time. He has published several books and articles exploring the intersection of anthropology, time travel, and the UFO phenomenon, contributing to the understanding of non-human intelligence and its implications for human history and future.
Diana Walsh Pasulka
Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka is a religious studies professor and author known for her work on the intersection of religion and contemporary UFO phenomena. She is the author of 'American Cosmic' and 'Encountering the Impossible', where she explores themes of Catholic mysticism, Vatican archives, and modern experiences of contact with non-human intelligences. Her research delves into the surprising connections between ancient religious experiences and contemporary UFO reports, and she has collaborated with notable figures in the field, including Tyler D. and Dr. Garry Nolan. Pasulka's work emphasizes the ontological implications of these experiences and their impact on belief systems.
Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka is a religious studies professor and author known for her work on the intersection of religion and contemporary UFO phenomena. She is the author of 'American Cosmic' and 'Encountering the Impossible', where she explores themes of Catholic mysticism, Vatican archives, and modern experiences of contact with non-human intelligences. Her research delves into the surprising connections between ancient religious experiences and contemporary UFO reports, and she has collaborated with notable figures in the field, including Tyler D. and Dr. Garry Nolan. Pasulka's work emphasizes the ontological implications of these experiences and their impact on belief systems.
Topics Discussed
UFO secrecy
disinformation
narrative control
Jacques Vallee
Forbidden Science
psychological terrain
intelligence structures
infotainment
epistemic vulnerability
Skywatcher
CE5
non-human technologies
disclosure movement
whistleblower testimony
ethical questions
metaphysical questions
spiritual questions
cultural questions
UFOs
time loops
time anomalies
reality
Extratempestrial Model
non-human intelligence
Mandela Effect
abductees
Corporal Armando Valds
Lynda Jones
levitation
redaction
ontological shock
Catholic mysticism
Vatican archives
UFO contact experiences
non-human intelligences
religious symbolism
spiritual devotion
audience Q&A
experiencer narratives
anomalous encounters
memory
trauma
perception
bias
belief systems
cultural stigma
consciousness
Jacques Valle
Eric Davis
Diana Pasulka
Jeffrey Kripal
James Madden
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Episodes
Here's the recent few episodes on Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole].
0:001:02:54
Ep 9: Daniel Elizondo on Narrative Control, The Secret Onion, and Valle's Forbidden Science
In this episode, researcher and Loose Threads co-author Daniel Elizondo joins us for a far-reaching conversation about UFO secrecy, the architecture of disinformation, and the psychological terrain of the phenomenon itself.
We dig into Jacques Valles Secret Oniona layered model of compartmentalization that explains how information is controlled and obscured within intelligence structuresand explore how narrative control operates both externally through infotainment and internally through belief, seduction, and epistemic vulnerability.
Daniel breaks down the long history of rug pulls, the weaponization of mystery, and what it means to resist the gravitational pull of being the one to break the story. We also talk Forbidden Science, Skywatcher, and the invisible handshake between researchers and the phenomenon they seek to understand.
If youve ever wondered who controls the narrativeor if youre part of itthis episode is for you.
Resources and References
Loose Threads by Daniel Elizondo and the Hermetic Penetrator
TIMESTAMPS 02:24 Sky Watcher and UFO Community Skepticism 08:48 Historical Precedents in UFO Disclosure 10:30 The Holloman Air Force Base Incident 14:35 Challenges in UFO Disclosure and Infotainment 21:45 Personal Experiences and Intelligence Community Interactions 30:58 Navigating the Insider's Club and Forbidden Science 33:08 The Repeated Revelations of Jacques Vallee 35:25 The Evolution of the Invisible College 39:57 The Secret Onion: Layers of Secrecy 49:46 The Phenomenon and Human Curiosity 56:57 The Control Mechanism: Micro and Macro Perspectives 01:01:45 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
In this episode, researcher and Loose Threads co-author Daniel Elizondo joins us for a far-reaching conversation about UFO secrecy, the architecture of disinformation, and the psychological terrain of the phenomenon itself.
We dig into Jacques Valles Secret Oniona layered model of compartmentalization that explains how information is controlled and obscured within intelligence structuresand explore how narrative control operates both externally through infotainment and internally through belief, seduction, and epistemic vulnerability.
Daniel breaks down the long history of rug pulls, the weaponization of mystery, and what it means to resist the gravitational pull of being the one to break the story. We also talk Forbidden Science, Skywatcher, and the invisible handshake between researchers and the phenomenon they seek to understand.
If youve ever wondered who controls the narrativeor if youre part of itthis episode is for you.
Resources and References
Loose Threads by Daniel Elizondo and the Hermetic Penetrator
TIMESTAMPS 02:24 Sky Watcher and UFO Community Skepticism 08:48 Historical Precedents in UFO Disclosure 10:30 The Holloman Air Force Base Incident 14:35 Challenges in UFO Disclosure and Infotainment 21:45 Personal Experiences and Intelligence Community Interactions 30:58 Navigating the Insider's Club and Forbidden Science 33:08 The Repeated Revelations of Jacques Vallee 35:25 The Evolution of the Invisible College 39:57 The Secret Onion: Layers of Secrecy 49:46 The Phenomenon and Human Curiosity 56:57 The Control Mechanism: Micro and Macro Perspectives 01:01:45 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
0:001:15:17
Ep 8: Mysterious Benefactors: Skywatcher, Gifted Tech, and the Complicated Ethics of Contact
Fresh from the Archives of the Impossible conference at Rice University, Kelly and Jay sit down to unpack one of the most talked-about moments of the weekend—a provocative presentation by Dr. Garry Nolan on his involvement with the Skywatcher initiative.
Skywatcher is an emerging public-facing effort claiming to demonstrate CE5-style contact, utilize psionic assets, with the aim of potentially reverse-engineering non-human technologies. The implications are enormous—and so are the questions.
In this wide-ranging, deeply reflective conversation, Kelly and Jay explore:
The strange and rapid emergence of Skywatcher and the implications for the disclosure movement
The increasingly blurred lines between whistleblower testimony, media spectacle, and operational theater
The question of who’s leading the charge into direct contact with non-human intelligences—and why
The need to balance the objectives of science and venture capital against humanitarian, ethical, and philosophical questions in our quest for contact—and why that will almost certainly not happen.
The potential cost of accelerating contact without asking the deeper metaphysical, spiritual, and cultural questions
02:18 Exploring Sky Watcher's Initiatives 03:38 Jake Barber's Revelations 05:22 CE-5 and Public Disclosure 07:16 Community Reactions and Ethical Questions 15:39 Garry Nolan's Scientific Perspective 20:56 Technological Worldview and Ethical Implications 30:03 Heidegger's Philosophy and Technology 39:20 The Value of Human Life in a Technological Age 40:17 The Ethical Implications of Technological Intelligence 43:55 The Concept of Hyper Objects and UFO Phenomena 45:54 The Great Filter and Technological Surveillance 47:52 The Role of Experience in Understanding Phenomena 51:19 The Spectacle and Mediated Reality 56:09 Dwelling vs. Dominating: A Philosophical Approach To Contact 01:05:31 The Importance of Bracketing in Phenomenology 01:07:57 Balancing Speed and Methodology in Disclosure 01:11:00 Concluding Thoughts and Future Directions
Fresh from the Archives of the Impossible conference at Rice University, Kelly and Jay sit down to unpack one of the most talked-about moments of the weekend—a provocative presentation by Dr. Garry Nolan on his involvement with the Skywatcher initiative.
Skywatcher is an emerging public-facing effort claiming to demonstrate CE5-style contact, utilize psionic assets, with the aim of potentially reverse-engineering non-human technologies. The implications are enormous—and so are the questions.
In this wide-ranging, deeply reflective conversation, Kelly and Jay explore:
The strange and rapid emergence of Skywatcher and the implications for the disclosure movement
The increasingly blurred lines between whistleblower testimony, media spectacle, and operational theater
The question of who’s leading the charge into direct contact with non-human intelligences—and why
The need to balance the objectives of science and venture capital against humanitarian, ethical, and philosophical questions in our quest for contact—and why that will almost certainly not happen.
The potential cost of accelerating contact without asking the deeper metaphysical, spiritual, and cultural questions
02:18 Exploring Sky Watcher's Initiatives 03:38 Jake Barber's Revelations 05:22 CE-5 and Public Disclosure 07:16 Community Reactions and Ethical Questions 15:39 Garry Nolan's Scientific Perspective 20:56 Technological Worldview and Ethical Implications 30:03 Heidegger's Philosophy and Technology 39:20 The Value of Human Life in a Technological Age 40:17 The Ethical Implications of Technological Intelligence 43:55 The Concept of Hyper Objects and UFO Phenomena 45:54 The Great Filter and Technological Surveillance 47:52 The Role of Experience in Understanding Phenomena 51:19 The Spectacle and Mediated Reality 56:09 Dwelling vs. Dominating: A Philosophical Approach To Contact 01:05:31 The Importance of Bracketing in Phenomenology 01:07:57 Balancing Speed and Methodology in Disclosure 01:11:00 Concluding Thoughts and Future Directions
0:001:00:09
Ep 7: Time Wars: UFOs, Time Loops & The Battle for Reality
Hosts
Hosts of this podcast episode
Kelly ChaseJay Christopher King
Guests
Guests of this podcast episode
Dr. Michael P. Masters
Keywords
Keywords of this podcast episode
UFOstime loopstime anomaliesrealityExtratempestrial Modelnon-human intelligenceMandela EffectabducteesCorporal Armando ValdsLynda Jones
In this mind-bending episode of Cosmosis, Kelly Chase and Jay Christopher King take you to the frontlines of one of the most disorienting—and revealing—aspects of the UFO phenomenon: time.
From the baffling 1977 disappearance of Corporal Armando Valdés in Chile, to the unnerving time anomalies reported by abductees like Lynda Jones, this episode explores the unnerving possibility that the phenomenon isn’t just moving through space—but manipulating time itself.
We dive deep into the emerging science of time as an emergent property, explore the implications of the Extratempestrial Model with insights from Dr. Michael P. Masters, and examine the evidence for time loops, missing time, reality edits, and the infamous Mandela Effect. Drawing from the latest physics, groundbreaking experiencer data, and real-world cases, this episode reframes UFO encounters not as visits from “out there,” but as incursions from “elsewhen.”
Are non-human intelligences using time as a tool, a language—or even a weapon? Could we be caught in a war for the timeline itself? And if so… who is writing the story of our future?
Reality may not be what it seems. And time might not be on anyone’s side.
00:00 Mysterious Encounter in the Atacama Desert 03:25 Introduction to Time Anomalies 05:00 The Nature of Time 09:06 Einstein's Theory and the Block Universe 10:35 Quantum Mechanics and Time 13:24 Implications for Anomalous Experiences 14:18 Lynda Jones' Encounter 19:21 The Extratempestrial Model 21:13 Time Travel Possibilities 24:54 Time Anomalies in Encounters 27:10 The Silence of Encounters 29:31 The Mystery of Missing Time 30:19 Burns and Radiation 32:43 Impossible Movements: The Physics of UFOs 35:19 The Greys: Future Humans or Extraterrestrials? 39:22 Longitudinal Studies and Genetic Programs 42:14 The Men in Black: Government Agents or Something Else? 47:46 The Mandela Effect: Glitches in the Timeline 52:06 Time Loops and Precognition 56:22 Synchronicity and the Shape of Our Stories 57:51 Conclusion: The Deeper Reality of UFOs and Time
In this mind-bending episode of Cosmosis, Kelly Chase and Jay Christopher King take you to the frontlines of one of the most disorienting—and revealing—aspects of the UFO phenomenon: time.
From the baffling 1977 disappearance of Corporal Armando Valdés in Chile, to the unnerving time anomalies reported by abductees like Lynda Jones, this episode explores the unnerving possibility that the phenomenon isn’t just moving through space—but manipulating time itself.
We dive deep into the emerging science of time as an emergent property, explore the implications of the Extratempestrial Model with insights from Dr. Michael P. Masters, and examine the evidence for time loops, missing time, reality edits, and the infamous Mandela Effect. Drawing from the latest physics, groundbreaking experiencer data, and real-world cases, this episode reframes UFO encounters not as visits from “out there,” but as incursions from “elsewhen.”
Are non-human intelligences using time as a tool, a language—or even a weapon? Could we be caught in a war for the timeline itself? And if so… who is writing the story of our future?
Reality may not be what it seems. And time might not be on anyone’s side.
00:00 Mysterious Encounter in the Atacama Desert 03:25 Introduction to Time Anomalies 05:00 The Nature of Time 09:06 Einstein's Theory and the Block Universe 10:35 Quantum Mechanics and Time 13:24 Implications for Anomalous Experiences 14:18 Lynda Jones' Encounter 19:21 The Extratempestrial Model 21:13 Time Travel Possibilities 24:54 Time Anomalies in Encounters 27:10 The Silence of Encounters 29:31 The Mystery of Missing Time 30:19 Burns and Radiation 32:43 Impossible Movements: The Physics of UFOs 35:19 The Greys: Future Humans or Extraterrestrials? 39:22 Longitudinal Studies and Genetic Programs 42:14 The Men in Black: Government Agents or Something Else? 47:46 The Mandela Effect: Glitches in the Timeline 52:06 Time Loops and Precognition 56:22 Synchronicity and the Shape of Our Stories 57:51 Conclusion: The Deeper Reality of UFOs and Time
0:0054:46
Ep 6: Diana Walsh Pasulka on Levitation, Redaction, and the Ontological Shock of Contact
In this episode of Cosmosis, we share a never-before-released talk by Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka, recorded live at the Inquire Anomalous conference in New York City. Diana—religious studies professor and author of American Cosmic and Encounters—takes us on an astonishing journey through her research into Catholic mysticism, Vatican archives, and modern UFO contact experiences.
From levitating saints and the mysterious Woman in Blue to redacted mystical narratives and the ontological shock of encountering the impossible, Diana reveals surprising links between ancient religious experiences and contemporary reports of contact with non-human intelligences. She also speaks candidly about her own transformation, the eerie resonances between the sacred and the anomalous, and her collaboration with figures like Tyler D. and Dr. Garry Nolan on the frontier of space, consciousness, and belief.
This episode includes the full live Q&A with Diana—where she responds to insightful (and sometimes wild) audience questions about redaction, religious symbolism, and whether spiritual devotion might offer protection from malevolent entities.
TIMESTAMPS 06:10 Exploring Ascent Narratives and UFOs 08:37 Investigating Vatican Archives and Levitation 12:28 Comparing Historical and Modern Phenomena 21:40 Theresa of Avila's Angel Event 28:42 Synchronicities and Childhood Beliefs 29:39 Meeting Edward Carlos: An Experiencer's Story 31:10 The Process of Redaction 32:54 Historical Context and Space Programs 35:30 St. Francis of Assisi's Angel Experience 42:50 Q&A Session 53:15 Closing Remarks and Resources
In this episode of Cosmosis, we share a never-before-released talk by Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka, recorded live at the Inquire Anomalous conference in New York City. Diana—religious studies professor and author of American Cosmic and Encounters—takes us on an astonishing journey through her research into Catholic mysticism, Vatican archives, and modern UFO contact experiences.
From levitating saints and the mysterious Woman in Blue to redacted mystical narratives and the ontological shock of encountering the impossible, Diana reveals surprising links between ancient religious experiences and contemporary reports of contact with non-human intelligences. She also speaks candidly about her own transformation, the eerie resonances between the sacred and the anomalous, and her collaboration with figures like Tyler D. and Dr. Garry Nolan on the frontier of space, consciousness, and belief.
This episode includes the full live Q&A with Diana—where she responds to insightful (and sometimes wild) audience questions about redaction, religious symbolism, and whether spiritual devotion might offer protection from malevolent entities.
TIMESTAMPS 06:10 Exploring Ascent Narratives and UFOs 08:37 Investigating Vatican Archives and Levitation 12:28 Comparing Historical and Modern Phenomena 21:40 Theresa of Avila's Angel Event 28:42 Synchronicities and Childhood Beliefs 29:39 Meeting Edward Carlos: An Experiencer's Story 31:10 The Process of Redaction 32:54 Historical Context and Space Programs 35:30 St. Francis of Assisi's Angel Experience 42:50 Q&A Session 53:15 Closing Remarks and Resources
0:001:07:17
Ep 5: Beyond The Telling: Listening To & Interpreting Experiencer Narratives
For fans of the old school deep dives from The UFO Rabbit Hole, this episode is for you.
For many, the biggest challenge in engaging with UFOs, NHIs, and the anomalous isn’t a lack of evidence, but the nature of the evidence itself. The best data we have comes from experiencers—those who have directly encountered the unknown. But their stories are often so strange, so far outside of our frameworks, that even the most open-minded struggle with how to approach them.
In this episode, Kelly Chase and Jay Christopher King take on this challenge head-on, exploring:
🔹 Why experiencer testimony is the most important—and most misunderstood—source of insight into the phenomenon 🔹 The impact of memory, trauma, and perception on anomalous encounters 🔹 How bias, belief systems, and cultural stigma shape the UFO narrative 🔹 The role of consciousness in contact phenomena—and why reality may be stranger than we think 🔹 How to listen to experiencer narratives with both discernment and radical openness
We also examine cutting-edge models from Jacques Vallée, Eric Davis, Diana Pasulka, Jeffrey Kripal, James Madden, and others, to uncover new ways of understanding the impossible.
This episode isn’t just about listening—it’s about learning to perceive the phenomenon in an entirely new way.
——————————————————————— Thank you to Magic Mind for sponsoring this episode.
If you’re like to try Magic Mind, go to https://www.magicmind.com/cosmosis and use code COSMOSIS20 to get you up to 48% off your first subscription for the next 10 days or 20% off for a one-time purchase.
TIMESTAMPS 03:23 The Challenge of UFO Testimonies 04:35 The Nature of Extraordinary Evidence 06:31 The Complexity of Experiencer Narratives 13:08 The Role of Trauma and Memory 14:29 The Experiencer Group and Its Mission 15:41 Subjectivity and Inconsistencies in Reports 19:01 The Bigger Picture of Anomalous Experiences 21:40 Philosophical Perspectives on Truth and Reality 25:45 Quantum Mechanics and Anomalous Experiences 28:29 Frameworks for Understanding the Phenomenon 29:57 The Concept of Redaction in UFO Narratives 32:44 The Nature of Redaction in UFO Testimonies 34:05 Navigating Redaction in Experiencer Testimonies 37:05 The Six-Layer Model of Anomalous Phenomena 44:16 The Filter Thesis and Anomalous Experiences 48:53 Trauma, Mental Health, and Substance Abuse in Experiencers 53:55 Hyperobjects and the Nature of UFO Phenomena 56:55 Semiotics and the Interpretation of Anomalous Encounters 01:00:44 Conclusion: Embracing the Unknown
For fans of the old school deep dives from The UFO Rabbit Hole, this episode is for you.
For many, the biggest challenge in engaging with UFOs, NHIs, and the anomalous isn’t a lack of evidence, but the nature of the evidence itself. The best data we have comes from experiencers—those who have directly encountered the unknown. But their stories are often so strange, so far outside of our frameworks, that even the most open-minded struggle with how to approach them.
In this episode, Kelly Chase and Jay Christopher King take on this challenge head-on, exploring:
🔹 Why experiencer testimony is the most important—and most misunderstood—source of insight into the phenomenon 🔹 The impact of memory, trauma, and perception on anomalous encounters 🔹 How bias, belief systems, and cultural stigma shape the UFO narrative 🔹 The role of consciousness in contact phenomena—and why reality may be stranger than we think 🔹 How to listen to experiencer narratives with both discernment and radical openness
We also examine cutting-edge models from Jacques Vallée, Eric Davis, Diana Pasulka, Jeffrey Kripal, James Madden, and others, to uncover new ways of understanding the impossible.
This episode isn’t just about listening—it’s about learning to perceive the phenomenon in an entirely new way.
——————————————————————— Thank you to Magic Mind for sponsoring this episode.
If you’re like to try Magic Mind, go to https://www.magicmind.com/cosmosis and use code COSMOSIS20 to get you up to 48% off your first subscription for the next 10 days or 20% off for a one-time purchase.
TIMESTAMPS 03:23 The Challenge of UFO Testimonies 04:35 The Nature of Extraordinary Evidence 06:31 The Complexity of Experiencer Narratives 13:08 The Role of Trauma and Memory 14:29 The Experiencer Group and Its Mission 15:41 Subjectivity and Inconsistencies in Reports 19:01 The Bigger Picture of Anomalous Experiences 21:40 Philosophical Perspectives on Truth and Reality 25:45 Quantum Mechanics and Anomalous Experiences 28:29 Frameworks for Understanding the Phenomenon 29:57 The Concept of Redaction in UFO Narratives 32:44 The Nature of Redaction in UFO Testimonies 34:05 Navigating Redaction in Experiencer Testimonies 37:05 The Six-Layer Model of Anomalous Phenomena 44:16 The Filter Thesis and Anomalous Experiences 48:53 Trauma, Mental Health, and Substance Abuse in Experiencers 53:55 Hyperobjects and the Nature of UFO Phenomena 56:55 Semiotics and the Interpretation of Anomalous Encounters 01:00:44 Conclusion: Embracing the Unknown
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