Stoa Conversations: Stoicism Applied Podcast

Most people learn about Stoicism through the dichotomy of control. It sounds simple: focus on what's up to you, ignore what isn't. But this apparent simplicity is dangerous.

The dichotomy of control becomes the lens through which people view all of Stoicism. Get it wrong, and everything else falls apart. You end up passive when you should act, frustrated when you should be patient, or convinced Stoics can't believe in cause and effect.

Michael and Caleb walk through four major misunderstandings that stem from getting the dichotomy wrong. From the myth that Stoics are passive observers to the confusion about free will and determinism, these mistakes reveal how a powerful idea can be corrupted when we bring our own assumptions to ancient wisdom.

(04:15) Four Confusions

(11:17) The Passivity Argument

(19:08) Do You Have Immediate Control?

(27:45) No Trichotomy

(35:58) Is the Dichotomy Incompatible With Determinism?

(41:00) Wrapping Up

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Are you stressed about the future? Deep-dive into this Stoic exercise from Marcus Aurelius for living the moment, without anxiety or regret.

Michael Tremblay covers the Stoic practice of circumscribing the present.

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Discover the philosopher who transformed Zeno from shipwrecked merchant to Stoicism's founder. While modern cynics see only self-interest, Crates lived joyfully with nothing but "a wallet and tattered cloak." This philosopher sold his inheritance, mocked social hierarchies, and treated everyone as equals—from generals to donkey drivers.

Michael and Caleb explore how Crates' rejection of convention shaped Stoic philosophy. They examine the benefits of temporarily embracing cynical minimalism as a path to wisdom and why Epictetus admired these philosophical outsiders. A look at the roots of Stoic thought and the value of questioning everything.

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(03:05) Zeno and Crates

(05:11) Crates Life

(10:32) What's the point of studying philosophy

(12:00) Cynic Reject of Stoicism

(16:56) Flatterers

(18:27) Everyone Has Flaws

(19:48) Insults

(21:53) Hipparchia

(27:33) Joyous Philosophy

(29:55) Hardcore Stoicism

(32:40) Benefit of Cynicism

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In this episode, Michael Tremblay and Caleb Ontiveros explore Aristotle's ethics, focusing on his doctrine of virtue as the golden mean.

They break down how Aristotle's view differs from Stoicism—from his three-part soul to his idea that virtues are skills developed through practice. Learn why Aristotle saw courage as a balance between cowardice and rashness, why feeling the right emotions matters as much as doing the right thing, and how this ancient framework applies to modern life.

The conversation unpacks key concepts from Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics: habituation, the role of pleasure in virtue, and why context matters in ethical decisions.

(08:29) Aristotelian Happiness

(10:47) Parts of the Soul

(12:44) The Kinds of Virtues

(14:04) Virtue as Skill

(18:39) Habituation

(19:42) The Golden Mean

(26:07) Good Reason For Bad Feelings

(28:24) Meaning of Virtue

(31:37) Self-Reinforcing Virtue

(35:31) What the Golden Mean Means

(45:02) Key Ideas For Practice

(48:03) Differences with Stoicism

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In this final exploration of Cicero's "On Ends," Michael and Caleb break down Book V, where Cicero reveals his own philosophical sweet spot – an Aristotelian-Platonic approach that challenges both Stoicism and Epicureanism.

Against a backdrop of ancient Athens, Cicero's characters debate the core question: What makes a truly good human life? They navigate the middle path between Stoic rigidity (where virtue alone brings happiness) and Aristotle's elitism (where external goods are required).

(01:53) Awesome Beginning

(07:10) What's Our Purpose?

(26:09) Supreme Happiness

(31:55) Cicero's Objection

(40:39) Summary

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