Be It Till You See It Podcast

In this episode of Fuck Yeah Friday, Lesley Logan celebrates women who boldly show up with integrity and kindness, from LSU Coach Kim Mulkeys empowering game-day gestures to community wins that prove how taking action creates momentum. Hear how Mindi and Stacey turned outreach and side hustles into real success, and why Lesleys personal win is a powerful reminder that protests can build purpose and connection.

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected] mailto:[email protected].

And as always, if youre enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.

In this episode you will learn about:

• Why Kim Mulkeys baby gift tradition is bigger than sports.
• How Mindi turned a bold move into business momentum.
• What happened when Stacey took action outside her comfort zone.
• How protesting became Lesleys unexpected win.

Episode References/Links:

• Kim Mulkey @femalequotient - https://beitpod.com/femalequotient
• Mindi Westfall - https://bendymindipilates.com
• Mindis Closet - https://www.instagram.com/mindis_closet

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected] mailto:[email protected].

And as always, if youre enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.

If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star ratingand leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSI

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Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeepers Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipment

Be in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlist

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Be a part of Lesleys Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/

FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/

Resources:

• Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g
• Lesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/
• Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQ
• Profitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/

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• LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/
• The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses

Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan0:00

It's Fuck Yeah Friday.

Lesley Logan0:01

Fuck yeah.

Lesley Logan0:05

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan0:48

Hi, Be It babe. Hello, happy Fuck Yeah Friday. If this is your first time with Be It Till You See It podcast, hi, I'm Lesley Logan. I'm so happy you're here. I'm really excited about just, literally, the amazing reviews we're getting, and how many people who've been guests on this pod love this pod, so that flatters me, but that means that you're here because someone told you about this. And so, thank you for being here. And on Fridays, we keep it light, we keep it bright, we keep it short, and we get to the point, because you have a lot going on, but this is supposed to be just a moment in your week when you just take time to realize what could be wins, what could be inspiring, that there are things out there always happening for us, right?

Lesley Logan1:24

So I start this off with something that inspired me on the internet, and then I share some wins that you sent in. I share a win of mine, and then I leave you with a mantra. Boom, we got four chapters.

Lesley Logan1:33

So this particular one that caught my eye, this is actually the second time this one's caught my eye. Her name is Kim Mulkey. She's a coach for LSU. You're probably like, Lesley, I got it. And if you don't listen to sports, then you might not know. But she got my eye a week ago, and I didn't put it in the FYFs because it's kind of just miffed me. But she, you know, she's talking about how she lost in one of the March Madness things, and she's like, oh, it's bad. And he goes, well, yeah, I mean, you lost. And she's like, well, have you ever made it to Round Eight? And, you know, anything? And he's like, no. She's like, well, then sounds like we did pretty much better than you. I just like that she clapped back. So I was like, ah, like, this woman, she's spicy. Anyways, this came across that she brings baby gifts to every coach on opposing teams that she's playing against who are expecting. And because ultimately, she believes, like we're on the same team. And I think it's so cool that this woman can take a moment outside of the competition to go, I see you mama over there. And here's a gift from me, because the reality is, is like, all these different women who choose to have children in their life, and they want to do that, and they want to coach, and they want to, at this elite level, they need their team. And so I just think that it's really cool, and what a badass she is. She claps back at stupid reporter questions, and she takes the time before a game to go and give the opposing coaches, this is like, there's multiple videos of her doing this, not just one coach, opposing coaches on other teams who are expecting, a baby gift. And I just think that's cool. You know, I'm not a mama, but I think that's really amazing.

Lesley Logan3:00

So now let's go to some wins of yours. By the way, my team really tries to link in the show notes these posts, if you actually want to see them. They exist. Okay, so from Mindi, Bendy Mindi, and also Mindi's Closet, she went, Pilates On Tour here in Colorado was an incredible for my clothing biz. Because of that, I will be able to go, be going to the Chicago P.O.T. in October. I love combining my passions and meeting so many wonderful people in the process. Thank you, LL and Brad, for your continued support and encouragement. You guys, it's really easy to go, oh, that thing that I want to do that could grow my business is actually an investment I can't afford right now, and be afraid to make that, and then also to make the investment, and go, ooh, I just did it. Only how's it gonna turn out? But not only did she do it, took her, you know, she felt the fear, and she did it anyway, but she actually had such a success. We're at a booth right next to her. We got to watch how successful the event was. And as someone that we get to coach, we actually got to talk about, okay, how do you make this win propel you to the next event? And that's something we work on in Agency, because it's really easy to go, oh my God, I got all this like, I got this windfall, and then spend it on places before you reinvest in your business. We did this with our flash cards. It was really easy for us to support her on. So we'll get to have a booth next to her in October in Chicago, and she gets to continue to grow this amazing side business she has. It's really inspiring to others. I'm actually currently wearing one of her shirts. She actually made it for the OPC team. Look at how cute that is, if you're watching, how cute that is. So cute. Anyways, go Mindi. So excited.

Lesley Logan4:25

Let's get you another win, you guys. This one is from Stacey Extence. She says, my wins after encouragement from LL. I did something I've never done, sent a message to people I know in my area via Facebook Messenger. I sent my flyer for a fundraising event I'm doing for CCP, inviting them to join. I got several responses from folks who I wasn't expecting. I'm receiving their email so I can include them in future announcements. Got my flyer printed and we'll place it in the studio tomorrow for the fundraiser, and began planning my open house after having a wonderful call with Mindi. I love how community works together, you guys. Received some great advice and ideas to base my open house on, had my annual mammogram. Woohoo for self-care. One new client who's been attending my beginner series weekly is new to Pilate and is loving it. She messages after each class letting me know how thankful she is for giving Pilates a try. She also wants to stick with my classes. And one new beginner, semi-private client, was the only person in class last week. I did a pivot during the session because of her tight hamstrings. I proved my knowledge about the session by focusing on strengthening and lengthening her back line. At the end of the class, she inquired about privates, hoping I can talk her into adding those into her schedule. Woohoo. I love that you did that pivot so that she could see the power of what can happen when things are tailored to her. I love that you call your annual mammogram a win because it is. Ladies, we gotta do these things. Thank you for reminding me to set mine up. I also would like to just say, like way to do the thing that feels weird. You DM people you didn't know. You email people you didn't know. These are the things that people don't do because they get scared of it, and you did it. And I promise you, even if those people don't return those emails, you're, you're telling the energy around you. I am accepting new clients. Look at the space I'm creating, look at what I'm doing to tell people who I am and what I rock at. So Stacey, that does work itself out, I promise you, it always, always does. It works in like, mysterious ways, which I love. Thank you for sharing, ladies.

Lesley Logan6:14

All right, a win of mine. So actually, this is a really fun one. I was just talking to Brad before I got to record this, and I was like, okay, I need some wins. And one of the wins that we wanted to share with you guys is that we have been protesting and having fun doing it. We don't have control over what the dickheads are doing in this planet that are fucking with like everything and excuse my language, but even if you don't agree with me on a lot of things, I think what we can agree with is I'm worried about my parents retirement. I'm worried about my family's retirement. I'm worried about that, right? Like I'm worried, I'm not worried about mine, because I'm not retiring anytime soon, but I'm worried about the people who it affects right now. And I can call and I can email and I can bitch and I can moan, or I could do something, and what I can do is on a Saturday protest, and so we actually went to our first protest in April, and it was really fun, and we've been doing it ever since, and it feels good. I highly recommend finding a protest near you, because it feels good to shout out the thing that is like pissing you off and to be around people who are also equally pissed off, but more importantly, not in a way that you're just like being Debbie Downers and just being negative, like actually doing something about it, because we can't take them out of their jobs. So what can we do? And it's really important, because it's helping people feel so seen people who don't have the ability to protest, people who who are being affected like they are, like seeing people fight for them, and that gives them hope. And I think it's really cool. Also, we told people we're protesting, and we ran into other people who we know, who we didn't know were going to be there. So we end up having a wonderful afternoon, spending time with our friends, who are all usually too busy to see, doing something that didn't cost us anything but our time, right? It didn't cost us money. We had to buy a ticket. We didn't have to go to a fancy dinner. We actually got to walk around a neighborhood, really bring attention to things that are bothering us. And so I am so excited that we got to do that, because it just felt like, you know, in 2016 when these were happening, I was traveling so much, I didn't get to participate in that. And then I remember when these were coming up, I was like, I don't even know how to do this. Like, where do I go? So I was doing a lot of research on, like, what to bring to a protest. What can you say? All these different things. And I highly recommend reading those accounts if you want to do it. But I will just say, if you are feeling like you don't have community, find a protest, you will immediately feel like you have it. It was so good. And that is my win.

Lesley Logan8:21

Okay. Your mantra. I seek out mystery in the ordinary. I seek out mystery in the ordinary. I seek out mystery in the ordinary. You guys, you probably are like my days are boring. No, seek, like, be curious about that. There's probably something new you never even knew was there. Thank you so much for being you. Thank you for listening to this podcast. You are part of its growth and its success, but the more it succeeds, the more it means we can bring to you to support you on your journey of being the person you want to be before waiting for someone to deem you. At this podcast, we do not wait for someone to deem us ready, we act as if we are and we do it scared, we take messy action and we celebrate the wins we have big and small, right? We celebrate them big and small. And so thank you so much for being a listener, and until next time, Be It Till You See It.

Lesley Logan9:10

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell9:53

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan9:58

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell10:02

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan10:09

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell10:12

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

What happens when growth isn't driven by hustle, but by intention? Lesley and Brad unpack Launa Jae’s take on emotional self-awareness, authentic evolution, and what it means to truly live in alignment. Tune in for a refreshing take on messy action, redefining success, and practicing what you preach. This recap reminds you that progress can be sustainable when it comes from self-trust.

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected] mailto:[email protected].

And as always, if you’re enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.

In this episode you will learn about:

• How to use presence as a tool—not a luxury—for creating peace and focus.
• What your negative emotions are really telling you about your priorities.
• The hidden cost of urgency culture and constant productivity.
• How small cues in your environment can help you course-correct.
• Why limiting distractions supports peace, clarity, and intention.

Episode References/Links:

• OPC Summer Tour - https://opc.me/events
• UK Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/uk
• eLevate Workout and Q&A - https://lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist
• Agency Mini - https://prfit.biz/mini
• Cambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.com
• Contrology Chair - https://beitpod.com/contrologychair
• Submit Your Questions - https://beitpod.com/questions
• Launa Jae Website: https://beitpod.com/activelifesports
• Launa Jae Instagram - https://instagram.com/launajae_
• Ep. 53: Launa Jae - https://beitpod.com/launajae

If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSI

DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipment

Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper’s Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipment

Be in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlist

Be It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-survey

Be a part of Lesley’s Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/

FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/

Resources:

• Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g
• Lesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/
• Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQ
• Profitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

We're all human. You can't change everything about yourself all at one time. You have to pick and choose and go, okay, well, what can I do here? Like, if you look at BJ Fogg, if he's like, I'm frustrated because I'm working on this project and I'm not sleeping enough, so I want to sleep better. He actually was like, okay, how, what are all the different ways I could sleep better? Well, he's not going to do all of those things. He, actually, to make a habit, had to go what are the three easiest things of what I just came up with that I want to do, and then how can I do that?

Lesley Logan 0:26  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 1:09  

Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the hilariously intentional convo I had with Launa Jae in our last episode. If you haven't listened to that one you've missed the fuck out.

Brad Crowell 1:21  

You totally missed out. 

Lesley Logan 1:22  

It's so good. I mean, we're two good friends, so that's always a fun conversation to be in. But also, she just has the most hilarious way of putting things in a way that just makes you stop and take it all in. And we are just obsessed with her. So anyway, 

Brad Crowell 1:36  

Yes, 100%.

Lesley Logan 1:37  

If you're not following her on Instagram, you are missing out, because her stories are my favorite. Every morning, to this day, she still does good morning to everyone except and it's something, and then there's other people who also do this and tag her, and so she reposts theirs. And then I just die laughing. So anyways, you gotta go follow her. Gotta go follow her. I promise you, it's really great. And she gives great tips and great hacks on gaining protein in your life, because all, y'all ladies over 40, it's a fucking feat to get enough protein every day.

Brad Crowell 2:04  

And if you're watching YouTube, I'm wearing a shirt you referenced.

Lesley Logan 2:08  

Oh, that's so funny. What a great timing. 

Brad Crowell 2:11  

Yeah, punch nails, I'm sorry, paint nails, punch Nazis. 

Lesley Logan 2:14  

We should have that guy on the pod. 

Brad Crowell 2:16  

We should have that guy on the pod.

Lesley Logan 2:17  

Yeah, we should send him.

Brad Crowell 2:19  

We'll work that out.

Lesley Logan 2:20  

His name, I think, is Jonathan Gregory or Gregory Jonathan, it's one of those handles that I'm like, he must have gotten famous after he made this weird handle. So, yeah, I gotta get him on. Okay, let's get back to, (inaudible) first we're going to talk about how today is June 5th, my dad's birthday.

Brad Crowell 2:35  

Oh, it is your dad's birthday.

Lesley Logan 2:38  

Brad. He's like, oh my God, all these days. It's like, this person's from the reality TV show day. I'm like, how does that person have a day and I don't have a day?

Brad Crowell 2:45  

It was Veggie Burger Day, and at the same exact day, Sausage Roll Day. I was like, did they do that on purpose? I think they did.

Lesley Logan 2:52  

I think Launa Jae would agree that you could have a veggie burger or a sausage roll. If you are doing your protein, right, you can. But today is Happy Birthday, Dad. You are 73. Way to go. But it's also World Environment Day. This day urges all of us to protect our natural surroundings. The stunning facts, an estimated 7 million people die each year from causes related to air pollution, with a majority occurring in the Asian Pacific region. This day encourages worldwide activism that means everything from littering to climate change. World Environment Day is both a global celebration and a platform for public outreach. You guys, plant plants that are local to your freaking place. That is one of the best things you can do. You know, it's really great, because in the water, we live in Vegas, we are increasingly aware of our water, what plants we have. On windy days, you got to go out there and pick up the trash, like, take care of the world around you. It's really hard when you think about, like, oh my God, the global warming. I can't, we can't fix everything, so you got to at least get your neighbors on board. How much water are you using? How much are you planting? How much trash are we throwing away, you know.

Brad Crowell 3:54  

Yeah, get rid of your grass in your front yard, you don't need it.

Lesley Logan 3:56  

Yeah, get rid of it. Also. It doesn't even absorb water. There was a whole episode on the Love It or Lose It odcast years ago about how actual grass is not trapping water. So that was news to me.

Brad Crowell 4:09  

Yeah, you know, 

Lesley Logan 4:10  

Educate yourself on little things you can do.

Brad Crowell 4:12  

Well, it's a hill that the city of Vegas is dying on. They enacted a law that says you have to, by 2026, I think all front yards have to be non-grass.

Lesley Logan 4:22  

Yeah, we got a neighbor, you guys, their grass is so green all year long. And it is infuriating to me. It's infuriating to me. First of all, when I walk the dog in the morning, though the sidewalk is soaking wet because of how they water, and how they water is why their grass is so green. And it's not like a little yard. It's like a full on eighth of an acre of grass. It's perfectly green.

Brad Crowell 4:42  

I know exactly which house you mean. 

Lesley Logan 4:43  

Yeah, oh, yeah. And because they water so much, there's something wrong with their sidewalk, it's literally slippery. You can literally slip while walking. And I'm just like, I can't wait till this grass is gone. I'm going to report you. January 1st 2026, first day I see that grass. My neighbor has grass.

Brad Crowell 4:59  

I don't know if it's Jan. 21 or Jan. 1st, but, yeah.

Lesley Logan 5:00  

I'm gonna be that Karen. That's the Karen I'm gonna be. 

Brad Crowell 5:05  

That's the Karen (inaudible). 

Lesley Logan 5:06  

If you got fucking front yard grass, I'm coming. Anyways, these are the things we can do and educate yourself on your water usage, but also, just like what you can do in your environment, you know, we all can't drive electric cars. All that, it's not, don't worry about the things you can't do, focus on the things you can. And it actually feels really great. Okay, oh, we have events. You guys, we're going on tour.

Brad Crowell 5:27  

Yeah, we got a lot going on. 

Lesley Logan 5:28  

You'll hear more about that soon, but the tickets are already for sale, they've been on sale for a couple weeks. And it's a huge Summer Tour. It's not a small Summer Tour, it's a huge Summer Tour. But the spaces are limited, because when you go to cities on the West Coast, what you will learn, like some places in the northeast, is that rent is hard and expensive, and so spaces are small, which means space is limited. So you want to get in on this tour and snag your spots and the classes and workshops before they sell out, opc.me/events.

Brad Crowell 5:55  

opc.me/events 

Lesley Logan 5:56  

Also, I really think our tour shirt is epic.

Brad Crowell 5:59  

It's a really cool tour shirt. I'm very excited about this. 

Lesley Logan 6:02  

This is my new favorite thing. I look up tour shirts from other things, and then I tell the team do this. And I don't think anyone notices what I'm doing, but I know what I'm doing. And then in September, you guys, we're going to be in the U.K. Leeds only has a few spots left. Essex, we actually opened up the opportunity to do day spot. So you can either do the full day Tuesday, the full day Wednesday, you want to go to opc.me/uk and again, also, not very many spots. So if you do the full weekend pass, or two day pass, you get six workshops, two classes. But if you do the day pass, you get three workshops and a class. So you want to snag those spots. We're not coming back for quite a bit, not because we don't like you, just.

Brad Crowell 6:43  

Don't know when. Do not know when.

 . 

Lesley Logan 6:45  

Don't know when. That's how the world goes. 

Brad Crowell 6:46  

Last time we waited two years.

Lesley Logan 6:49  

Yeah. Also, before summer tour and U.K., I'm hosting a workout and a Q&A session for teachers, this is for Pilates teachers who are interested in my mentorship program. We are more than half sold out at the time that we are recording this. In fact, like, not, there's actually not a lot of spots in next year, but we're going to. 

Brad Crowell 7:06  

Yeah, there's literally, there's less than nine spots left.

Lesley Logan 7:09  

Yeah, so less than nine spots. And we're gonna have.

Brad Crowell 7:11  

I say that because I'm talking to a handful of people, and there are currently nine, and I think they're going to be booked, so.

Lesley Logan 7:17  

Yeah. Yeah. So here's the deal, go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist to get on the waitlist to get the information about the free class and the Q&A session. If you are someone who wants to take the class and ask questions, that's gonna be great. If you're someone who's like, I want in on this. I don't want to wait. Well, you know how to hunt us down, because that's clearly how it's filling up behind closed doors. But lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist this is for comprehensively trained teachers who want to not freaking talk so much, be in imposter syndrome, over work themselves out, all the things, yeah, come and join us. Okay, Brad, your turn.

Brad Crowell 7:53  

All right. So I'm very excited to make this special announcement. We have decided to bring back Agency Mini.

Lesley Logan 8:01  

I know you guys, this is really exciting. We said, no, it's done, and it was, and it, actually, the Agency, Mini, you know, and was very loved.

Brad Crowell 8:09  

It's still done. 

Lesley Logan 8:09  

It's still done. This is a, this is a new Mini, new and improved. 

Brad Crowell 8:13  

This is a mini Mini. 

Lesley Logan 8:14  

It's like, it's a, it is a mini mini. An M-I-N-I M-I-N-I mini Mini. And that is because we took all the, all the things people loved about Mini, and got rid of all the things people didn't love about Mini. So no more Facebook groups, no more seven days. No more overwhelm. This is a three-day Mini. You're gonna get a workshop on day one. You have homework on day two. You will have a office, a group call on day three, there's like couple extra days of replays you'll have some access to, and that's it, and it's (claps) awesome, quick.

Brad Crowell 8:47  

Easy and effective and really exciting. What we're going to be digging into is some of the foundational marketing things that you need to know on how to attract your own clients. Like, how do I attract the right clients for me, clients that actually want to work with, clients who pay me without complaining, clients who show up on time. How do I do all of that? Right? And we're going to dig in. I cannot wait. This is one of the, one of the favorite topics that Lesley and I have spoken on over the years.

Lesley Logan 9:13  

And if, even if you're like, oh, I slay at my marketing, if you don't actually help the clients you want to be teaching, or people who treat you or making the money you want to make, you need to be at this Mini, because we're going to actually fill in the holes. We're like, oh, I didn't do that. Oh, that's the thing. It's going to be amazing.

Brad Crowell 9:28  

Yeah. So by the time this comes out, I think we're still on the waitlist, believe it or not. So it'll be.

Lesley Logan 9:34  

The early bird will be opening, like, in the next week or two, so you probably want to go to prfit.biz/mini, to get on the waitlist, and or if it's open, you'll see how to buy in right there. It's going to be in July, the middle of July, before we take off on tour, and it's going.

Brad Crowell 9:47  

Early bird is 25 bucks. So don't miss it. 

Lesley Logan 9:50  

Yeah. Don't miss it, because we don't want you to actually pay the full price. That's why we have the early bird. We want you to plan ahead.

Brad Crowell 9:54  

60% off. 

Lesley Logan 9:55  

Yeah, I love how we did this out of calendar order today. But you know what? It keeps you on your toes.

Brad Crowell 10:01  

What? 

Lesley Logan 10:02  

Well, we started with the tour, which is after Mini.

Brad Crowell 10:04  

Oh yeah 100%. We did. 

Lesley Logan 10:06  

Anyways. But for sure, at the end of this year is Cambodia in October. You guys, if this is your first time hearing about this, and you've never heard about how amazing our retreat in Siem Reap is, it's amazing. If you have heard us every single week, you know it's amazing. And if you're like I really want to do this, come, come, come, come. I know everything is crazy and uncertain. Let me just tell you right now, the flight prices to Asia are the same, whether you buy them today or six weeks before. Why? Because people have done that. Want you to go to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot because the small group, we're taking a very, very small group this October, we want you there, and it's going to be such a great time to just get rid of all the chaos and be in the coolest place in the whole world. 

Brad Crowell 10:45  

It's so true and it's so cool. 

Lesley Logan 10:46  

We've been to a lot of places. 

Brad Crowell 10:47  

If you want to deep dive on that, go back a couple weeks and there's some solo episodes from Lesley and from me about our love for why we do this trip, all the things. So dig in on that. All right. Well, before we get any further, we had an audience question. So @emilyanahata from YouTube asks, hey, how do I know which chair is the right for me? And I'm assuming she's talking about a Pilates chair. What are some questions I can ask myself to get a better idea? Thank you. And I am going to jump in. I'm just going to say, traditionally, you want a chair that has four legs, right? And then maybe a seat. That'll be good. That's the kind of chair you want. Those are great questions. Doesn't have four. You might be able to get away with three, but I don't think two is going to cut it.

Lesley Logan 11:30  

No, yeah, the three, that's more like a stool. 

Brad Crowell 11:34  

That's a stool. 

Lesley Logan 11:34  

Yeah. Okay, so this is really great. And actually, she followed up with some really interesting questions, which is, like, she's heard that, like, should she get a Split Pedal EXO Chair? She did this. And so I actually followed up with like, are you a teacher? So here's the deal, what I know is, I'm gonna answer this in two ways. If you're a teacher, then you actually should get the Chair that best suits your style of teaching. And what I often see teachers do is they get a Chair that they can afford versus a Chair that was designed for their self-teaching. If, so Emily's not a teacher, so the Split Pedal, if you were trained to teach on Split Pedals, if you like to teach on Split Pedals, then get a Chair with Split Pedals, because you'll be annoyed that the pedal doesn't split, it doesn't do what you want. But if you are not trained on a Split Pedal, then the Split Pedal is actually going to be frustrating, because it's going to feel different, sound different than what you're used to. And Emily's not a teacher, so then it's just going to be confusing, and then she won't use a Chair without having been trained on how to use the Chair. And I want people who love Pilates to have access at home to equipment that they want and they can use, and it's not confusing. So this is not a knock against Split Pedals EXO Chairs. Obviously, we know and love Balanced Body. We are, we have affiliate links with them. We are dear, dear friends with the founders, and we are sponsored for the tour. So get that if you want to use it, but if you are just like, I want to get stronger. I want to work on my posture. I want to work on my strength. My suggestion is going to be the Contrology Chair because without seeing you, Emily, the dimensions are great for every body, no matter if you're big or small, hyper mobile, tall or short, the pedal angle is just really great.

Brad Crowell 13:11  

It's also very solid. 

Lesley Logan 13:12  

It's really solid. 

Brad Crowell 13:13  

You're not gonna have to worry about it, like, you know.

Lesley Logan 13:15  

And it's super, it's not confusing. You don't have four springs to choose from. Like, I find that if you are not trained as a teacher on that equipment, it becomes confusing. If there's lots of spring choices, it's two springs, three hooks on either side. Really easy to figure out what you need to be doing. But for anyone listening, having a chair that's right for you, the easiest answer is like, I just love a Contrology, I love a Contrology Chair. You can stand on it. I could put a heavy person on it, I could put a tall person on it. It's gonna be great. Put a short person on it.

Brad Crowell 13:40  

I did a handstand on one.

Lesley Logan 13:42  

Yeah, you totally did it, and it was fine. But questions to ask yourself are, is the pedal angle gonna be appropriate for the height and flexibility of my hips? Right? Is the top of the chair big enough to support my full seat? Can I lay on it on my front? Can I lay it on my back? Does the Chair feel sturdy if I stand on top, if I go to step on top of it does it feel like it's sturdy? Some of these Chairs are really light. I've seen some interesting ones now that are floating around that are a few 100 bucks. I worry about the weight of the body. I'm not talking a larger body. I'm talking like just any body. So some questions to ask yourself, are like, can it withstand the weight of my body standing on it, and then can I adjust the springs tension so that it meets me where I am, or is it like kind of the same spring tension, whether you use like, if you only have one or two? So anyways, those are some things to ask yourself, but always happy to give you my links, you guys, to anything that Balanced Body makes, and that's our Contrology line as well. 

Brad Crowell 14:37  

Yeah, awesome, well. 

Lesley Logan 14:39  

I just want to say I love that she's gonna get herself a Chair, because everyone's so fucking obsessed with having a home reformer. And then they're like, I need it to fit under my bed. And it's like, uh, no, if you have a small space, get a Wunda Chair, get a Spine Corrector, get a Two by Four, get a Sand bag, get a Ped-o-Pull. So many things you can get yourself, and then you could go take a Reformer at a studio, right? Okay.

Brad Crowell 14:58  

I dig it. Well, look. Stick around. We'll be right back. 

Lesley Logan 15:01  

Oh, Brad, hold on. 

Brad Crowell 15:02  

What? 

Lesley Logan 15:02  

You guys, we have a link for you guys to submit your questions, because some of you have been like, how do I submit my question? 

Brad Crowell 15:08  

Yes, we do. 

Lesley Logan 15:08  

Where do I submit them? And it is. 

Brad Crowell 15:10  

We totally do. 

Lesley Logan 15:12  

beitpod.com/questions you can also send. 

Brad Crowell 15:16  

beitpod.com/questions plural. 

Lesley Logan 15:17  

You can also submit your wins. There's a spot whether it's a question or a win. So, beitpod.com/questions with the s at the end and then send it. 

Brad Crowell 15:25  

Yeah, submit your wins. Submit your question. 

Lesley Logan 15:27  

Yep, anything, anything goes. Sometimes it doesn't have to be Pilates-related. Anything goes. 

Brad Crowell 15:30  

Good job. Good remembering.

Lesley Logan 15:31  

Let's talk about Launa. 

Brad Crowell 15:33  

Stick around. We'll be right back, because we're gonna talk about shit and rainbows in just a minute. 

Brad Crowell 15:38  

Okay, welcome back. Let's talk about Launa Jae. Launa is a Dallas-based nutrition and fitness coach who specializes in helping people get unstuck without feeling restricted. What does that mean? She is an anti-diet coach and a food freedom expert for high-achieving women. She's passionate about helping others make progress, stay accountable and create sustainable results in both health and in life, and she's hilarious, like, hilarious.

Lesley Logan 16:09  

She's so funny. That's why the shit and rainbows come from. Also, she, you could even listen to her first episode being on here. Like, there's just so many things that she says, and her descriptive words are perfect. So one of the things that I love that she said is negative emotion is literally just an indication that you're out of alignment with who you are in your true inner being, experiencing debilitating negative emotions that led to stress, and then that led to physical illness. And then she realized a common denominator in all of them was her. So she was prioritizing her to-do list over her well being. So she would wake up, check emails and prioritize her to do list and not like what she needed. And it's so fun to see her. She's obviously switched this. And so you can actually see it in her Instagram if you follow her, she's like, well, I'm at the gym. Didn't want to be here, but I'm doing the workout even though I didn't want to be here, because she's prioritizing herself, right? She's making sure she gets what she needs. And so after doing all this, she was able. I love the self-reflection. I think that's really hard to do, so I love that she self-reflected, and then she concluded that these negative feelings signaled a disconnect between her actions and her authentic self. So who she was telling people what to do for them themselves, and then what she was doing for herself. When we're when we have that dissonance, our brain doesn't like it. It is overwhelming, and we get resentful, and that's negative, right? So instead of just brushing off us having a bad day, she used those feelings as signals that something was out of alignment. And I think it's really cool, if you can figure out in your day and in your life, like, oh, when I feel like this, it's like a little yellow light, hello. This is a sign you're out of alignment. You guys, at the park that I walk the dog at every 30 minutes. This voice comes on these speakers. 

Brad Crowell 17:41  

It does? 

Lesley Logan 17:42  

Yes. 

Brad Crowell 17:42  

At our park? 

Lesley Logan 17:43  

Yes. 

Brad Crowell 17:44  

Like, over the loud speakers in the park? 

Lesley Logan 17:45  

Yes. 

Brad Crowell 17:46  

That's like, creepy.

Lesley Logan 17:47  

So fucking creepy. It's a little bit like in South Korea when I crossed the street when it was a red light, and this Korean voice, like, came out of nowhere. And I was like, I don't know what you're saying, but I could, like, in the U.S., I could cross the street right now, no one's coming. Anyways, this voice goes, dude, it's like, do-ding-do and then she goes, da-da-da-da-da. She, I don't know what she's saying, but the point of this whole story is, like, find something in your day that can be a sign that, like, oop, I've stepped over the line of being out of alignment. And it could go ding-dong-ding-ding-ding-ding.

Brad Crowell 18:22  

I don't really know what's happening right now.

Lesley Logan 18:23  

Listen, let me finish. Let me finish. You are out of alignment. You haven't prioritized yourself. 

Brad Crowell 18:29  

Like an elevator chime.

Lesley Logan 18:30  

Yes, like an elevator chime. And then like a lovely.

Brad Crowell 18:33  

You are out of alignment. This, to me, is like a sci-fi movie where it's like, welcome to the ground floor. And then, like.

Lesley Logan 18:41  

You, Brad, you said you wanted to cold plunge, and you have not done that yet, turn around, go back in there, take care of yourself first.

Brad Crowell 18:51  

You will hate yourself later if you don't cold plunge now. 

Lesley Logan 18:54  

You're gonna complain later and Lesley is gonna roll her eyes, you know. So she found her way of understanding that she's out of alignment. We all need a little flashing light, elevator sound, woman in the park. I wish I can tell you what she's saying.

Brad Crowell 19:07  

Woman in the park coming at you with surround sound.

Lesley Logan 19:11  

Yeah, it's really rare. It's really weird. It's probably saying you're not supposed to be here right now.

Brad Crowell 19:14  

I know, right? The park doesn't open until 6:15. 

Lesley Logan 19:18  

A park opens when the sun rises and I'm there before it so clearly, it's for me, anyways.

Brad Crowell 19:22  

All right, so here's what I really dug. She's talking about urgency culture, and I found that an interesting term, because if it's culture, that means we created it, right? It's also it's learned. I reflected a lot about this, like, wow, there is a sense of we're only here on this planet one time. So I get that, like, driving, like, gotta get things done, you know, kind of a vibe. But also, too, I think if you look at the difference between the United States and Europe on on how people work, you know, we work 40 hours a week. We never take vacations. We work when we're sick, all these kinds of things that are way different from a mentality, from a cultural perspective, the idea of urgency culture kind of scares me. That's not an exciting thing to think about. It also made me reflect on how caught up am I in that myself? 

Lesley Logan 20:14  

Oh, yeah.

Brad Crowell 20:15  

This idea of never taken any time off or constantly working. You know, we're just listening to one of our coaches, Brad Bizjak. 

Lesley Logan 20:23  

He's gonna be on the pod soon, guys, stay tuned. 

Brad Crowell 20:25  

Awesome episode coming. Really excited about that. We were listening to one of his episodes on urgency and the importance of leaving yourself time off as well. So anyway, all this being said with Launa Jae, she said, hey, we've created this never ending to do list, and it's stripping us from the human connection, from enjoying our day to day, from being present in the moment. It is funny. It's like we've decided we can, you know, be, quote-unquote, this efficient, so we can do these amount of things every day, whatever those things are, right? If you're working for a company, they always tell you schedule 80% of their expected work time, because 20% will something will get in the way, and they won't actually be able to do all the things. But we still packed in that 80% right. When we are thinking about our day in that manner, it doesn't leave any room for life to be, like, to happen, and also self-reflection. And I think that's the, when she's talking about stripping us from the human connection, enjoying the day to day, from being present in the moment. You know you have to reflect on the things that are happening to you. Like, for example, I mean, I wasn't in in the best physical, like, well-being on this day trip that we took, but we changed altitudes. I opened my water bottle and it exploded all, literally, all over my lap. So, like, and it wasn't a small amount of water. I was literally sitting in a puddle of water. And, like, I'm driving. You know, that could have been hilarious, but I was upset about it. I was, like, really frustrated.

Lesley Logan 21:54  

I started to laugh at the background. 

Brad Crowell 21:56  

You did start laughing. 

Lesley Logan 21:56  

Because we have done this before. So to me. 

Brad Crowell 21:59  

I had no idea we changed altitude. It wasn't like a thing I could check, but the realities that happened, and instead of it being funny, it was frustrating because I'm like, I have to drive, I have to do this, and I'm trying to take a drink of water, and then boom. And instead of appreciating the hilarity of the moment, I didn't, you know, when Launa Jae was talking about this, she explained, we're constantly rushing to complete tasks and focusing solely on our to-do list, which is stripping us of being present and by being intentional about what we're doing. Right? So this intentionality she's talking about then, why are we doing what, what we're doing while we're doing it, it'll help us be more present in the moment. So now she's limiting distractions. She's trying to be in the moment more. And the number one thing she said is especially because she works in social media, the number one thing she said is just limiting those notifications and hiding her phone that allows her to stay present, stay in the moment, be having a conversation and thinking about the conversation she's having. Instead of constantly being interrupted, even if you're not necessarily addressing it, you're still processing it. Your brain is still processing it in the moment. So I like that she's prioritizing peace and laughter. You know, I think those are great things.

Lesley Logan 23:10  

Yeah. If you're a high-achieving person or an ex athlete, or any of those things. I think it's so cool to listen to because we're all human. You can't change everything about yourself all at one time. You have to pick and choose and go, okay, well, what can I do here? Like, if you look at BJ Fogg, and he's like, I'm frustrated because I'm working on this project, and I'm not sleeping enough, so I want to sleep better. He actually was like, okay, how, what are the all the different ways I could sleep better? Well, he's not going to do all of those things. He, actually, to make a habit had to go what are the three easiest things of what I just came up with that I want to do? And then how can I do that? So that's how he talks about how you can make changes in your life. And so if you want to be more present, what are all the different ways you'd be more present? Well, one of the things is to limit the notifications in your phone, because you're less distracted, right? So I think it's just a really cool you can start to see yourself in different things that Launa is explaining, and then you might be able to address it as well. I got an ad for a phone booth, a phone box. It's, it's really beautiful wood, but I would it's, it's.

Brad Crowell 24:08  

What are you? What is it? 

Lesley Logan 24:09  

It looks like, it kind of looks like a hobbit door, you know, like those old, how like in Harry Potter.

Brad Crowell 24:16  

Oh, you put your phone in it?

Lesley Logan 24:17  

Yeah, and you open it up, and there's these little slats, and it could fit six phones, and then there's a hole in the back for a charging cable to come through. I looked at it as, like, well, how much is this phone booth? Because that's kind of cute. Like a place we could put our phones. We were not distracted. Like, it's a cute little box. I mean, you could probably you could probably just put them in any kind of box, you guys, because first of all, it was $75 I was like, I'm out on that. Second of all, you still have to put the cord through. So the like, to me, the box should just charge my phone. So when that happens, then I don't want to have to find more cords over the cords. But at any rate, find a place to put your phone if you want to be less distracted. 

Brad Crowell 24:51  

Love it. All right, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to talk about those Be It Actions with Launa Jae. 

Brad Crowell 24:56  

All right, so let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Launa Jae? She said, hey, being where you are, 10 toes down. First time she said it, I understood what she said, but it took me a minute to like process it. Again, she's talking about really being present. She said, wherever those toes are, that's where your focus needs to be, right? She shared how this quote became a daily anchor for her to stay grounded in the moment instead of rushing from one task to another. I'm here, 10 toes down, right? It's a cool little phrase that allows you to be like, oh yeah, remind myself to be in the moment, to be here. She said it helps her stay present and ask herself, why am I doing the thing that I'm doing right now? Why am I doing this? Right? I'm here, so my 10 toes are down here. Is this where I should be? Why am I doing what I'm doing? Right? She also emphasized the importance of being intentional about your time and reflecting on the time that you're spending in different places. So she said this kind of purposeful focus gave her the space to reflect, process her emotions and communicate more clearly, especially in moments of stress. So, good for her. I think it's a cool little phrase. 10 toes down. She's good at those, yeah, like the horse pill without water.

Lesley Logan 26:16  

She also said to stay curious everything can teach you more about yourself. I think this is so key, because we might not like how we react to things, we might not like how something is going, but we could be curious about like, well, why don't I like that? Well, what's going on there? And there's so much information out there in this world today that you could probably figure out, like, well, what is that saying? And like, what's going on? And so I think just everything, even the things we don't like, can teach us more about ourselves. In fact, I actually think the thing things not going right, things not going well, things that blow up in our faces, like, they all kind of teach us a little bit more than like, when everything goes really well, if everything is good all the time, you kind of often don't know as much about yourself. So want to also encourage us to create awareness around where we are and get clear on where you want to go. So maybe take a second of like, okay, I'm going to this meeting. The goal of this meeting is X, Y and Z. This is why I'm going to this meeting. This is what I want. And then have some clarity there, and then be 10 toes down and reminded us that grace and consistency go a long way. That is very true. It actually is really hard to pick yourself up quickly if you're beating yourself up. The teams in sports that do the best, don't focus on yesterday's loss. They focus on the goal of today. You know, as they learn from yesterday's loss, they watch tapes, they take feedback, but if they're beating themselves up over a wrong turn or a bad pitch, they're going to take that with them into the next game, versus going okay, today's game is to beat this team, and this team is really good at x, y and z, and when I'm up against that, this is what I know because you learned about yourself. So it all goes together, and grace is and is going to help you be more consistent, for sure. And she also said there's going to be really hard days but what matters most is what you do with them. And I think that's such a good reminder.

Lesley Logan 27:53  

You know, Launa Jae, you're so fun, you're so fabulous. You guys, I think you're going to really love listening to her episode. If you haven't listened to it already. Also go back into the archives and grab another episode out of her if you really enjoy what she's saying and follow her, because her stories are really fun.

Brad Crowell 28:08  

Yeah, her first time on the pod was episode 53. 

Lesley Logan 28:12  

Whoa and what episode is this? 

Brad Crowell 28:15  

533 

Lesley Logan 28:16  

So she is, that's. 

Brad Crowell 28:18  

Almost 500 episodes. 

Lesley Logan 28:20  

No, that's like 53 and three. She's 50, episode 53 and then 533. There's another 50. Launa, go play the 53 at the lottery, I think. 

Brad Crowell 28:30  

Awesome. Well, thanks for joining us today. 

Lesley Logan 28:33  

I'm Lesley Logan 

Brad Crowell 28:34  

And I'm Brad Crowell. 

Lesley Logan 28:35  

Oh my goodness. I was like, okay, Brad is gonna wrap this up, but that's not how this goes. You guys know what to do. Leave us a review. Make sure you tell Launa Jae, like, what your favorite takeaways were, what maybe your favorite quip is, and share this with a friend who needs to hear it like, who needs a pep talk, who needs to slow down and like, take in how they're doing things and be more present with themselves. That's how this podcast grows and until next time, Be It Till You See It.

Brad Crowell 28:57  

Bye for now. 

Lesley Logan 28:59  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 29:41  

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Lesley Logan 29:46  

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Brad Crowell 29:50  

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Lesley Logan 29:58  

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Brad Crowell 30:01  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Lesley Logan 30:15  

Okay, guys, time to talk about shit and rainbows with Launa Jae.

In this episode, Lesley Logan welcomes back mindset and wellness coach Launa Jae for a deep dive into alignment, burnout, and how hustle culture can disconnect us from ourselves. They explore what it means to study life instead of just passing the test, how to identify stress signals before they spiral, and why staying curious can help you reclaim your energy and peace. If you've been doing all the right things but still feel off, this one’s for you.

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In this episode you will learn about:

• How burnout signals misalignment and what to do about it.
• Why negative emotion is a cue for curiosity, not judgment.
• Social media habits that sabotage presence and energy.
• What it really means to practice what you preach.
• How to let go of urgency to create space for growth.

Episode References/Links:

• Launa Jae Website: https://beitpod.com/activelifesports
• Launa Jae Instagram - https://instagram.com/launajae_
• Ep. 53: Launa Jae - https://beitpod.com/launajae

Guest Bio:

Launa Jae McClung is a Dallas-based nutrition and fitness coach, founder of LVLX Wellness, and creator of the 3F Nutrition Method. With over eight years of experience, she has coached more than 300 women to break free from binge-guilt cycles and restrictive eating, helping them build sustainable, intentional habits through personalized macro-based coaching.

Previously, Launa created and led The Active Lifestyle Program for a physical therapy company—building a fully online coaching experience rooted in sustainable habits, mindset work, and lifestyle alignment. She now brings that same real-world strategy and heart to her private practice, supporting high-achieving women in shifting from burnout to balance through clarity, compassion, and empowered action.

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Episode Transcript:

Launa Jae 0:00  

For me, it was a lot of negative emotion, and negative emotion is literally just an indication that you're out of alignment with who you are in your true inner being.

Lesley Logan 0:11  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:53  

All right, Be It babe. I'm really excited about this. It's one of my dear friends who's gonna be on the pod, and mostly she and I were just talking about a couple topics that we were both, you know, interested in ourselves, we're working on with ourselves, and we thought, why don't we have this conversation with you guys? And that's because we're all works in progress, right? I know that you're gonna laugh. I know that you're gonna if you are feeling low, the energy of the two of us together is going to make you feel high. I promise you, you won't get a word in edgewise. And we are fast talkers, so if that bothers you, you know, maybe slow the speed down wherever you listen to this podcast. But, Launa Jae has been on the pod before, so if you have been a pod listener since day one, you are going to recognize her. She always has really good little one liners that just make you go, yeah, that's exactly how I feel. And so I hope that this episode hits you on a day when you need it, and I hope you feel like you have people like Launa and I in your corner going through life with you. We're all doing the best we can. So here's Launa Jae. 

Lesley Logan 1:54  

All right, Be It babe.

Launa Jae 1:55  

Yay. 

Lesley Logan 1:55  

Exactly, that's exactly how we're coming into this episode. I'm so excited. One of my dearest friends. Launa Jae McClung is our guest today. She is back from episode 52 and I think, I don't know, but last night, I recorded episode 500 and I didn't know I was recording it. I was just like reading the thing. I'm like, this is episode 500, so you might be 552 but.

Launa Jae 2:17  

Yay, let's go. 

Lesley Logan 2:18  

I mean, if we're manifesting, you know.

Launa Jae 2:20  

Hey, that's what this whole thing is about, right?

Lesley Logan 2:23  

Yeah, it really is. So Launa, I mean, you and I go way back, but just in case people haven't listened to the way back episodes of 52 Can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?

Launa Jae 2:33  

Yeah, I'm Launa Jae. I'm a Dallas based nutrition and fitness junkie. I specialize in flexible nutrition and really getting people unstuck, getting, moving them from point A to point B without feeling like they have to be restricted. And so that opened up the lane for me to meet you. And I just, I've been rocking with it ever since.

Lesley Logan 2:57  

I just love how the world works and how we get to meet people. And I'm so grateful. There was just certain times in my life where I've just where I've just made some really great friendships, and you and B are one of those, and it's just been so fun. We talked about, like, why you're gonna come on the pod? Like, what are we gonna talk about? And I just wanna address, and maybe this will come up in our conversation, but when you were on the show before, you were still doing what you do, but you were doing it differently than you are doing it now. And I just thought maybe it would be fun to kind of go back into the journey so people can kind of come along the ride with you. Like, what's been going on the last couple of years, since you've been on? You know, with what you can share, with what you can share.

Launa Jae 3:32  

Yeah, a lot has happened. What's funny is my word for 2024 was growth. Oh, man, did that one hit. 

Lesley Logan 3:41  

This is why I don't pick words, guys, I do not pick them because here's what, okay, don't lose your train of thought, but just so everyone understands. Everyone's like, what's your word? What's your word? And like, I did choose impact for this year. So I did choose a word, because I just got asked so much. But like, when I was a child, my parents would say I need to be more patient, so I'd pray for patience, and then they would tell me, oh, well God's going to test you, because that's what you want. And I'm like, well, then what are we doing here? I don't have the patience to be tested yet. So if I want growth, you'd be ready for growth in all directions. Anyways, back to you.

Launa Jae 4:12  

I don't even know that, like, even when we feel like we're ready for growth, I don't even know that our human brain can actually process and, like, fathom what it takes to be able to grow, and the uncomfortability and like, the stickiness and sitting in the trenches and all of that, people don't want that when they say, I want growth. They want to come out on the other side this new, shiny, brilliant object, right? But each part is just as valuable to the other part to become who you want to be. And I really leaned into that unintentionally, maybe some, intentionally. So what's been going on since the last time we talked? I joined a company and really kind of put my business on the back burner and wanted to fall in love with coaching again and do less of the admin, all of that. So we worked with that company for about two years, and then growth, right? Growth happened as I got better. I wanted more, and that bar kept getting raised, right? So in December of last year, I started with a new company, so I'm working with a physical therapy company, and I am running their online coaching department. So I'm the Director of Nutrition and Fitness Coaching, literally building this leg of our business from the ground up, and really doing it. I've kind of taken the lessons that I've learned from all of the years and all of the years of entrepreneurialship, and it really kind of like carved its own lane for this, this position to open up for me. I didn't know that it existed. I didn't know that I wanted it, and I just kind of kept being it and not really knowing what I was doing until it came and here we are, so. 

Lesley Logan 4:12  

I think this is so cool. So thank you for sharing, because I know we have a lot of people who are like, oh, I want to work for myself. I just want to do it myself, and then that's scary and that's hard. And you and I have been there, and we've seen the ups and downs, and you, people don't realize when you work for yourself, like, yes, you get to work for yourself, but then when the -ish hits the fan, you work for yourself, and that can be its own thing. And then got to work with someone else and see what that was like. And I think what's really cool is because you had those two opportunities, it allowed you to see this current opportunity as something that was the best of all of it. It was like taking all of your entrepreneurism and everything you know, and then what it's like to be on a team and then make it the best situation for the people you want to make an impact for. I think it's, I think that's just really cool. 

Launa Jae 6:03  

Yeah, it's, it's evolved in a way that I couldn't even have articulated the way that I wanted it to. And really, it all kind of started with me just going within and me kind of, I had to realize, like, I kind of had a couple of aha moments last year, and I, there were like, three specific instances. I remember I had one in March, I had one in the summer, and then I had one in December. And it's like, I don't know. I don't mean to schedule my mental breakdowns quarterly, but it happens like that. 

Lesley Logan 7:25  

I kind of want to know what the signs of the stars were doing. If there was something in retrograde.

Launa Jae 7:31  

Mercury was in the microwave, Saturn did something and somebody pissed someone off, and it just came at me. But I, I'm a big, I like to know the why behind the what. I'm a very curious person, and I really, as I get to know myself better, I love to pick up on patterns. And, in hindsight, looking in these like three instances that really stuck out in my mind, I got to the point where I was like, what's the common denominator in all of these instances that brought out all of those uncomfortable feelings, so, shit, I didn't want to feel the emotions. Those times where you just have a breakdown and you're like, what is wrong with me? Am I broken? Right? And the common denominator in all of those situations was me.

Lesley Logan 8:20  

Isn't that like that sucks so much when you realize it?

Launa Jae 8:23  

It is a giant horse pill to swallow with no water. 

Lesley Logan 8:28  

Yeah.

Launa Jae 8:28  

And it's like, okay, okay, we're still swallowing trying to digest it. And I was in a situation where I was like, Yes, I can build everything that I want, but I think until you realize what you don't want, you're not very clear on what you do and what you need, the action steps you need to take in order to get there. And so for me, it was a lot of negative emotion, and negative emotion is literally just an indication that you're out of alignment with who you are in your true inner being. And this negative emotion waves, like, kept hitting me, like debilitating to where I'd get sick, I would get stressed out, like, I mean, the whole gamut, right? And the common denominator in the situation was me. I was doing the same thing over and over and over again on the day to day, waking up, checking my phone, doing the emails, hurrying to get through work and all of this, and literally prioritizing my to-do list over my life. And I was spinning my wheels and I was trying to pour from a cup that was like dried out, and I what I wasn't taking the time to make sure that I was okay before I started to give to others. And it's really easy to say, and it's a very simple concept to like, think about right? Like, okay, practice, what you preach. How many coaches hear that in the online space? But I was sitting there having these conversations with clients, and I'm like, okay, we need to work on stress management. It's not something that's magically going to disappear, just like you're not magically going to wake up after a heavy leg day and be good to go and be squatting your butt of, you know? You have certain protocols that you deploy when you overdo it in the gym, right? We got massaging, we got cupping, we got cryo, we got all of these things. When we overdo it in the kitchen, we know we can get back to the basics, protein, fiber, 10k steps a day, drink your water, seven to eight hours of sleep. Let's eat out less. Let's cut back on booze, right? Those things. But what about stress? 

Lesley Logan 10:38  

Right. 

Launa Jae 10:38  

I am so guilty of, just like, having these super high stress moments and these negative feelings and then just expecting myself to magically recover from it without getting in the work. 

Lesley Logan 10:50  

Right, just like, just get a good night's sleep. And here's the thing, good luck getting a good night's sleep. I just, so, we're reading a book right now, and I make a stop it an hour before bed, because it's causing me to have nightmares, not nightmares, but just like intense dreams, where I am the hero of the story, and I cannot save, and Brad is the other character, and I can't save him. And so we're like, Anyways, long story short, guys, if you know, you know. So, at any rate, I had like, eight hours I could sleep last night, and I was like, I'm not gonna need my alarm. Yes, I did, because I woke up so many times because I had this stress dream going on, and I wrote on my journal. I need to figure out how to calm my nervous system before I go to bed. And I wrote that. And I'm like, you know how to do that. 

Launa Jae 11:34  

If I was gonna ask anyone how to do that, I would probably ask you. 

Lesley Logan 11:39  

It would be me. And I was like, you're just not using your tools. You're just not being I do it in the morning because I love a morning routine. I love setting myself up for success, but I am not doing it my nighttime routine. And I'm like, okay, this is do your thing tonight. So tonight I have to go back to my practicing what I preach, which is not just my having a great morning routine, but having a good night one. So I agree with you, we, we have the tools, we just don't have the protocol. And when you're in a stressful situation, it's kind of hard to go. Let me reach I guess the best example is, like, you know, when someone's drowning, I actually tell lifeguards, like, be careful, because a drowning person is likely to drown you because, even though you're there to reach out for help, they're thrashing. So I feel like when we're in a stressed out state, we can't reach for our stress protocol because we're drowning.

Launa Jae 12:28  

Absolutely and I think those like stress protocols, it's very simple. At the end of the day, right? You're stressed out. Let's get a good night's sleep. Let's do some journaling, some meditation, something that makes you feel good. I don't know, color, dance, read a book, whatever. Do you. Right? Those things that are really, really easy to do also very, very, very easy not to do because of their simplicity. And so it's like, as, as we're adulting and like entrepreneurialship is straight up personal development and personal growth, like you need to work on yourself more than the business, and that's kind of in, in the season that I'm in right now, right, of like, hey, you've neglected yourself for X amount of time, we got to get back into it.

Lesley Logan 13:16  

Well, and that kind of makes me think one of the things you and I were talking about offline is being a student versus studying to pass the test. I feel like this is an exact answer, right? If you're starting to pass a test, it's like, Yep, I've memorized check these boxes that will bring your cortisol down, that's going to do this, that's going to make you have a good night's sleep. But actually, studying means trying them out, experimenting, seeing if it will work. Is that what you mean when you think about studying versus passing the test?

Launa Jae 13:41  

Yeah, I think, like, I mean to even, like, parallel that example even more, like when I was going back to those, like, three instances, right? And I was like, wake up, and I'm like, okay, gotta brush my teeth, then I gotta open computers, then I gotta talk, do all of this before anybody talks to me at this time, literally rushing through my day to do the to do list. So then I could chill, and then I could be happy. That's an example of studying to pass the test. You are going through, you are cramming for that exam two hours before it hits. You're trying to memorize everything. And in those moments, life is passing you by around it, right? We are so hyper focused on, is it A, B or C, that we can't even see what's going on around us. That's kind of studying to pass the test, and kind of where I'm calling in, I set a new word for this year, heaven forbid, where I'm kind of leaning in this year is asking more questions, and instead of it being like, okay, well, when Launa gets stressed out, she skips meals, she doesn't do her workouts, and she turns into a raging ditch.

Lesley Logan 14:52  

Just a little bit. 

Launa Jae 14:53  

Yeah, instead of just putting a period there, this year I'm asking why. What is it? And why am I telling myself, like, here I am another year older, I'm going to be 36 this year. What's up? But, what I'm. 

Lesley Logan 15:09  

It's a good year. 36 is a good year. 

Launa Jae 15:11  

I'm excited. Like, get out of 2035, right? Like, going back, I mean, if we're just doing all of this work just to get to the place that we can chill, we're starting to pass the test. Instead asking why in those moments, like I had a little bit of a mentee be today, this morning, and I was like, oh, I'm gonna have some great examples for this call, but I was sitting here, and I'll just keep it a buck, and I know she doesn't mind, but my other half, B, love her so much. We went and scouted a basketball game, Monday night. It was raining, terrible weather. We got to spend this morning, I go to move my car, and my car window was cracked. It has been raining for three days. It's 7 a.m. and then just more little instances, right? So I come in and I start to feel that negative emotion coming up, and I'm like, look, she is a good human. It was not intentional. She would never intentionally drown your leather interior, right? Like, check yourself, Launa, before you start this snowball spiral effect, check yourself. So I go, and I'm like, okay, I need to, like, stop this, this wheel before it gets really rolling. I'm gonna go meditate. So I turn on my meditation. I go and I sit in this chair, and I'm like, I am light, and I'm like, breathing it, and I'm trying so hard. My dog jumps in my lap, pauses, the meditation turns on a man's voice that's a commercial about buying some car this year with a low APR. And I lose it. I'm trying to do something good for myself. 

Lesley Logan 16:54  

I was only laughing because I have been there. You're like, I'm meditating, I'm meditating, and it's like, what are you doing? I'm just trying to meditate.

Launa Jae 17:05  

And it just started this whole breakdown. And instead of me being like Launa last year, would have been like, I probably would have gotten in a fight with B it had nothing to do with her, and I would have just sat there, probably cried, gone and done another workout, which would be even worse for my body stress response, right? And would have left it at that, said, okay, cool, I'll try again tomorrow. Instead, this year, I'm trying to go deeper, and I'm trying to ask the why behind the what. Why was that one thing triggering me? And after unpacking it and being more, taking more of a student approach to what was happening, pulling myself out of it, I started to notice that there were common patterns, right? I was feeling like, okay, I've been doing this, this, this and this, and making sure everyone else is taken care of and okay this week, and I'm not getting that in return. And so instead of me getting to that point and be like, B, you're not giving it to me or whatever, I unpacked it more. And really what it was, and what it all stemmed down to, is I was giving my energy away this morning and this week before, I was filling myself up and making sure I was okay, I've gotten the habit of getting on social media first thing or opening emails, and I wasn't taking that time. So in these situations, literally, I had like, five or six situations this week where it was the common theme, again, I'm the common denominator, right? And so it was because I just wanted to be appreciated and like, hey, I see you. You're doing great, but all of these negative things came in, and if I put a period on it, instead of asking a question, after that sentence, there would be no growth. It would have been studying for the test, me not retaining the information, and me getting that test again in two months and failing it. 

Lesley Logan 19:06  

Yeah, yeah. It really is not the easiest thing to go. Okay, why is this upsetting me so much? I mean, a dog jumping on you during a meditation, hitting the wrong thing, should be funny. It should be funny. And so when it's not funny, when something like so ridiculous happens and it's not funny, there's something going on. There's an underlying current that's not being addressed. And I remember, this would happen to Brad and I, would have, like, the same kind of a thing. It's always happening when we're, when we're trying to do too much at the same time. You know, it's scary to hire, it's scary to delegate, it's scary to say no to things. But actually we, you know, we had, we really had to do that. We had a no new things in 2019 mantra, and like we've had, we've like, done it other times. And what I can say is not that our life is perfect, but now it's a little easier for us both not to blow up at the same time because, because, like, we're both not overdoing it in the scene and trying to be like a hero. And I think you have to, if you don't learn from the things you get to repeat the same exam, and you'll still get the same crappy score, which is memorized, which is not the, you know, the thing. I hope people are like, laughing and listening and also asking themselves same thing, like, what? What is this? Yes, some days you have to check boxes. I think it's really important to note that there's just some days you're like, yep, I'm going for my walk, and I don't want to do it. Yep, I'm sitting in this chair and I'm trying to meditate, and I don't, there's those days, but then when it, when you are, if you are finding yourself blowing up the people you love, something isn't happening that you're probably not articulating. I hate to say this, but we actually have to tell people how we want to feel appreciated, because people like I, I will brag about Brad all the time, and then realize, like, I have to actually should have told him, oh, I really like that you made me coffee every morning. We don't realize that we're not actually showing our appreciation to the person. We often tell our friends, or we tell our social media, we tell these things. And so if you aren't getting the appreciation you want, you know, you do have to almost articulate, here's how I would like to be appreciated, and these kinds of things make me feel appreciated, and no one wants to have those conversations because there's no time. None of us have, we're all cramming so much for so many tests. We're not actually taking the time to be in a philosophy class or psychology class or any kind of class that you would be like learning about something where you actually just get to learn. I think that that's my takeaway. Is like, maybe I should explore where I can be in a more theory class versus okay, I'm just passing the test. I'm checking the box. But if you're listening, you're like, I just checked the box today. Be okay with that, because it's better than not doing the things, but just understand if you were doing it every single day, or if you're resenting others. But here's the deal, because Launa, you and I are very similar. I have a really hard time being in the present moment, my, read in my dailies today, and it was a lot of us focus on the past. We focus on the future. Like we're trying to get so far in the future, like, currently with what's going on in the world. I'm like, can we just, like, fast forward 1000 days? Like, can we just, like, do it, right? Not like, that's a specific number or anything, but like, I find myself fast forwarding because it, the present feels really difficult. So how, how are you working on that sense of urgency and not letting that take over? Because we're doers, we're like, action takers, you know? How do you slow down?

Launa Jae 22:13  

Well, it's so funny because I was literally as you were talking. I was like, oh, that's a perfect segue into urgency, but to go off of what you were talking about, of you and Brad sitting down and having those conversations, I think I wanted to like echo something like in the heat of the moment when we are cramming for those tests, it always isn't the best climate to be able to sit down and be like, you know, what I've thought about my feelings, and then to be able to think about your feelings, to process them, and then to assign words, to be able to articulate and do it without putting someone on the defensive, is not easy to do. 

Lesley Logan 22:52  

Yeah, it takes special skills. I think that's like superhero type of skills.

Launa Jae 22:56  

Very, very special skills. But I also think that urgency culture and us hurrying to study to pass that test and all of these things that are never ending to-do list is also stripping us from the human connections, from enjoying the day-to-day, from being present in the moment. And so one of those things that I'm, I'm really trying to call in is the first thing, and I know it's gonna sound stupid, it's gonna sound so cliche, but it is real, is my phone. Because I have clients messaging me, I have emails coming to my phone, I have group messages. I have all of these things. The second that I start to look elsewhere and I let I start to get into, like, consumption mode of other people's lives, what other people are doing, of texts here and this funny thing there, that's when my thinking starts to get messed up, and it's, it's not like a cause and effect, right? Oh, I got on social media. Five minutes later, I'm calling myself fat, and I hate what I see in the mirror, like it's not like that. But over time, I think being more intentional about where my energy is going and when I, like, I am on this call with you, I'm gonna keep it a buck. My phone is hidden in my paper planner so I can't even see it, and that way, I'm not paying attention, I'm not having this conversation with you, and then seeing a notification come up, and then me being like, oh crap, what were we talking about? I'm on camera, and to be in that moment, and it's hard to put on those blinders on those distractions, but I'm going to argue that that's one of the best things that you can do whenever you are going through these instances, is we start to kind of look outside of us for answers on us. And that doesn't make sense, like even saying that sentence sounds messed up. We start to look for answers outside of us about ourselves. They're only found inside of, the only way that we can get to that student mindset is to be able to shut out the noise and quiet. So for me, I'm intentionally getting on social media list. I'm posting. I'm going to check it one time a day, and I'm not looking, I'm not re-sharing, I'm not I have to protect my energy this week, especially when I'm vulnerable and I'm going through these instances.

Lesley Logan 22:56  

Yeah, I think that's really wise. I love that you put it in a book I live on Do Not Disturb, as you know. The joke in our household is people call Brad and tell him to find me.

Launa Jae 25:44  

Yeah, people call B and they're, like, where's Launa?

Lesley Logan 25:47  

Yeah, yeah, I do recall you're going, hey, Brad, can you tell your wife to answer her phone? We have a call right now. I am a true, like, ADHD person. I will be like, oh, I've got a meeting in 20 minutes. I can't start anything. And then I'm like, well, what's this over here? And then I'm like, fuck, I'm five minutes late. How did that happen? So that's me, but I do think that there are some tools we can use. And I know people are listening, but Lesley, I have to use social media for my business. Something that I am actually exploring is, what if I took all the pictures for stories and just posted them at one time for the next day? Does it really matter? You know what I mean? Like, does it really matter if it's 24 hours old? Because you can post like, 20 stories at one time. There's a simple way of doing that. Or if you really have to be posting all day, can you have someone who does it for you so that you could send it to them, and they can do it, because you have to figure out how to protect yourself. And that shouldn't be a selfish thing. That shouldn't feel like a righteous thing, whatever it's going on with you. If you're in a season of your life where that's a distraction, or you keep picking up your phone. For me, I can pick up my, my socials, skip the feed, and go straight to what I need to do, and go to my DMs and get out of it. And so I've curated my, my feed to just being people who want to punch Nazis and beautiful nails. Like, that's kind of where it's at right now. So, like, I kind of love it and I use. 

Launa Jae 26:58  

I expect nothing less from you? 

Lesley Logan 27:01  

Yeah and I use, like, the why are you showing this to me all the time? I'm like, I don't care about this. You can do those things. But if that's not something where you're at right now, then finding different tools, leaving your phone outside your bedroom, or there's a podcast I'm listening to where they're doing a focus challenge, your phone will tell you how many times a day you picked it up. Do you know this? So you can actually, I think there's a tool that you can look at to see how many times that I opened up my phone. It locked and I opened it. And then you can actually just aim to do less this one person I was listening to, we pick it up 283 times in a day. And I was like, oh my God.

Launa Jae 27:32  

I don't even want to comment on that until I know my number.

Lesley Logan 27:36  

Correct, exactly, because I started to go, wow. And then I was, wait a minute. How many times do I? But even just picking those things, because that is going to help you be more present in the moment, that's going to give you the time to ask yourself why am I feeling a certain way? What do I want out of this? All the tools in the world, you and I have studied from the best people out there on how to make our businesses go how do we work from ourselves? How do we develop ourselves? How do we have growth? But all the tools in the world don't help you if you don't take the time to integrate them. And I want to highlight something you said when you're in the moment when you want to, you know, yell like your your car is wet and the dog jumped on you, and you're like, I need it. That's because I'm not being appreciated. I'm going to go tell. That's probably not the best time to go tell someone what you want. But what I think is really cool is measuring the time from the little mental beat to you understanding what's going on to you being enabled to a place to articulate what that is. Maybe it takes you two days at one point, and if you can reduce that down to a day and a half, and you can reduce that in a day, and maybe you can reduce it down to, you know, within an hour. Like, hey, I'm so sorry the way I acted this morning. Here's, here's what happened, here's why this is upsetting me. You don't need to do anything or in the future. Like, can you, you know? Can you shut the window, you know? So, like, I think it's not about us being Zen Buddhist, like, you know, monks over here who just walk through life in white robes. That's never gonna happen, but us all being able to shorten the timeframe from when we're frustrated to why we're frustrated to articulating what our needs are.

Launa Jae 29:13  

Yeah, and I think it comes down to a matter of intention, even to your social media example, right? Like being intentional about what you're doing, why you're doing it, while you're doing it, will help you be more present in that moment. So, like, it is my intention. I literally, I was like, gonna start a Launa stress spiral. I'm like, I got a podcast at 12 and I gotta prep my call notes. And I was like, Launa, stop. Have fun. Just get on this call, talk to your friend, get some good content out there, see how it evolves. Have fun. Then when I'm done, I'm gonna have fun while I'm doing X and having those times and that intentional time, one of the quotes that sticks out because this is something I have to be mindful of daily, because, hi, human ADD, there literally was a squirrel in front of my house as I said that, (inaudible) just went by. But I think being, I don't know who said it, where I heard it, but being where you are, 10 toes down, wherever those toes are, that's where your focus needs to be, whether it's in the gym, whether it's okay, my toes are under my computer. It's work time. If I'm in the kitchen, my toes are eating, you know, like, what we got going on? And being intentional in your reflection time of okay, why did I just act like a mega asshole, why? And being intentional in the the information extraction, right? Then being intentional with you taking the time to process and asking yourself the questions, right? And then being intentional in the way that you communicate what you want. And then, clearly, I'm not going to say the word intention again, but leading with that of, why am I doing the thing that I'm doing right now, and is that in alignment? Yeah, and if it's not, then we need to ask why, and do something maybe pivot to get back into alignment. But I think that's what I'm focusing on. 

Lesley Logan 31:16  

Is intention your word for the year?

Launa Jae 31:18  

No, my word for the year is actually peace, and I cannot wait to see in 2026 what that does to my year. But I just, for lack of a better phrase, I just want to shit rainbows this year. I want to call it in the void I want. I just want connection, and I want laughter, and I want community. Because I think I truly spent the last two years in head down, grind, hustle, like, just work yourself into the ground mode. And, yeah, it was great, and I got a bunch of clients and help people get results. And like, I did the things and I was fulfilled doing the things that wasn't work I didn't like, but I also haven't gotten on an airplane in a year and a half. I haven't gone to a beach in a year. I missed out on a lot of the things on the day to day, like, you know, Lesley, one year, we saw each other three times going to all these events, you know. So, like, all of these things that are a part of my identity are things that I started to put to the back burner because I was prioritizing my work and my clients over me. And so this year, I just want to simplify everything. I want peace. I want good food, good company, good sleep, good sex, pretty views, quality conversations. And that's what I want to focus on. So whatever learning and self-growth and all of meditations and car windows that need to happen to get to that spot, I'm willing to put in the work, because I've seen what it's like on the other end and that's not fun. 

Lesley Logan 33:07  

I think what's really cool. So I want to share a story, and it's not to make you doubt your word at all, but it is everyone who had the word. So my yoga instructor, we should have him on the podcast, Brad. We should figure this out. But my yoga instructor is like a philosopher, and he says, you can't have love without hate. You can't have peace without war. And so anything that we're wanting to call more in for everyone, whatever that word is, there is going to be the other side. It doesn't mean you don't, you get to skip that. But the idea is that, can we recognize when it's happening and then when it's not happening. Are we able to recognize peace when we have peace? Because a lot of times, we only recognize the opposite of what we don't want. We're like, oh, I've only got troubles, and all I want is peace and so or I only have like, haters, and I just want to love. Can you recognize when you have it when you have it, and use in the instances that are not peaceful or not love-filled or not impactful as information around how could I grow from this? How is there, was there a way to prevent that from happening at all anyways? Is that even in my control, if it's outside of my control, then can't do anything anyways. But if it was inside your control, what adjustments can I make in my life? So I'd repeat that thing again. So I think it's like, I love the word peace. I had a year where I was like, ease and I just kept asking, like, anytime something came stressful, I'm like, How can I make this more easeful? This isn't easy. So, yeah, could I bring to it? Should I bring music on? Do I need to change the music that's playing so that this is more easeful? Do I need to ask for help? I'm sharing all this because I need to hear it myself. So I'm gonna re-listen my own podcast so I can take my own, so I could take my own medicine, but it's like, how can I use the things that are opposite of what I'm trying to call in as information about what I can change for myself, or if it's outside of my control, how do I let it go? Because that, there's nothing you can do anyways, right? So anyways, this has been so fun. 

Launa Jae 34:58  

No, I love it, because now you g,ot me on another tangent. But I really, I really believe, like, I mean, humans, they operate out of one or two mechanisms, fear or love, right? Anything that we do is either, like, if you ask enough questions, you're going to get to the base, and that base is either going to be you're scared of something or you love something, right? And so, kind of getting into these, like when growth happens, and all of these negative emotions we're scared of, because we are made to feel aligned and feel good and all of that. But if we, again, slip into student mode, those negative emotions are like a flashing yellow site that something isn't in alignment. So if we can sit with those and recognize, hey, I have to go through this to get the opposite, then I think it becomes almost as Jill would say, Let's lower the barrier of entry. In order to have peace, you gotta go through the chaos in order to have a sunny day, like you wouldn't even be able to know what a sunny day is like if all you saw was rain. And so the message is that you're telling yourself so like, yes, I want peace this year, and I have had to catch myself 942 times already having chaos in my brain and feeding the chaos, right? So as you're working towards whatever it is, whether it's fitness, nutrition, you're trying to get a new deadlift PR, you're trying to nail your macros, you're not going to get to the spot where you're able to do that without the lows that are associated with those highs. Literally, to PR your deadlift you have to tear your muscle fibers down and rebuild them. And I was talking to my friend this morning on the phone, and I was, I was frustrated. I'm like, why, I've been doing personal development for 35 years, like I get this a lot thing, like, come on, since I was a baby in my mom's womb, I've been doing this, what is like, what is going on? And she was like, Launa, you're with a new company. You're at ground zero. Just because you've had a ground zero before doesn't mean that this isn't a ground zero again. If you are constantly, she, she told me something hard that really slapped me in the face. And she was like, okay, so you're always going to be stressed out and you're always going to be glorifying your to-do list because you're constantly growing. And I was like, yeah. And she was like, so you're going to constantly grow, and you're going to constantly get better, and you're setting these expectation for yourself, but as you're getting close to reaching those, you're changing the height of the bar. 

Lesley Logan 37:53  

Yes.

Launa Jae 37:53  

And so you're consistently going to be disappointed, because that's who you are. You're high-achieving. You like to operate there, but you're gonna constantly be disappointed every time I go to move that bar up and I keep falling. So we need to learn how to be okay in the moment, because the journey's never gonna end. You know, it's always gonna change. So what are you gonna do? Are you gonna like, just sleep an entire road trip with your spouse and miss every single thing on the road or are you going to look out the window?

Lesley Logan 38:24  

Yeah. Yeah. I think that's beautiful. I think it's totally fine to be in, have an achiever mindset and have a growth mindset and be a doer like I'm a recovering perfectionist and overachiever. That being said, it doesn't mean that you can't live a life with a mountain with no peak. We had a guest, Keri Ford, who was like, you know, an achieving one, like, there's a mountain with no peak. That doesn't mean that along the mountain you don't stop at a plateau and you look around and you take it in. That doesn't mean that you don't have to go around a long journey to get to the next peak. You, always moving the bar in your life, there's actually nothing wrong with that, because you are constantly wanting more. What we what all of us who do that, have to recognize is, are we celebrating where we're at when we get there? If we don't, it makes it really, really hard to be curious and study and ditch the urgency we've been talking about because we're just waiting for that next test, because we'll just pass, I'll just pass it and then I did it. And instead of no, actually, just stop and take it in. Just stop. Look at your views. Look at the cloudy day, look at the rain and celebrate here's what I did do today, you know. So I just want to say that, because I just want to make sure everyone knows it is absolutely fine to have goals and you can move the goal post, but you must celebrate that you got to a goal post. I had a coach who says he's not hit a goal in his business in six years, but he feels extremely successful. So I think the barometer is you can move the goal post, but if you never feel like you've been successful, then maybe there's some reflecting to do.

Launa Jae 39:58  

Yeah, and I think that comes back to like being present and being 10 toes down right, like, people literally hire me to help keep them accountable on their journeys, and a crucial part of that is being grateful and celebratory for the progress that you've made and where you are in the moment and how you're creating a new version of yourself, it takes time to create different neural pathways. And as humans, we want x result, and we want it now, and that's where a lot of resistance comes from, right? So enjoying it and realizing there's going to be sun, there's going to be rain, but it's all worth it, and it's all important to keep going. So let's normalize minty bees, right?

Lesley Logan 40:44  

Yes, yes, I vote for that. Okay, we're gonna take a brief break and find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you, and your Be It Action Items. 

Lesley Logan 40:51  

All right, Launa, where do you hang out? Where can they work with you if they are wanting accountability in their life, for their journey, their fitness journey, what do you got for them?

Launa Jae 40:59  

Yeah, you can find me on Instagram. I hang out more there than Facebook. My Instagram handle is launajae_ J-A-E underscore. I have my new website that launched this week, so I will be sending it over to you, if y'all are curious about coaching, anything like that. What it is that I do or you want to hear more random stuff come out of my mouth. Hit me up on there.

Lesley Logan 40:59  

Yeah, what's the website? We'll put it in the show notes, but just in case people are walking and talking. 

Launa Jae 41:27  

Yes, it's www.activelifesports.com\active-lifestyle. 

Lesley Logan 41:35  

Okay, we will put that in there. We gotta get you a short link. Brad is like, Launa needs a short link. It's brand new. It's one week. Congratulations. Those are not easy things to do. Okay, you've given us so much, Launa Jae, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps can we leave people with today?

Launa Jae 41:58  

Stay curious. Everything can teach you more about yourself. Create awareness around where you are, and get clear on where you want to go, and do not forget that grace and consistency go a long way. There are going to be hard days, but what do you do with them? Right? 

Lesley Logan 42:18  

Yeah, yeah. I love all. I love each one of those. I think that that's a, it could be one sentence, or it could be five commands, and you can pick one that you want. You're gorgeous. You're amazing, Brad and I adore you. And you get on a plane and come to Vegas, huh? Like, Southwest is having a sale. I'm sure.

Launa Jae 42:37  

Hey, you know it is like one of me and B's favorite places to come. It's come see you and Brad in Vegas.

Lesley Logan 42:42  

I'm just, we're just saying you should just get married here, that way we can be there. We, we have a Venetian you can get married in New York., New York. There's, like, all these different.

Launa Jae 42:52  

We can get married in your backyard, (inaudible).

Lesley Logan 42:56  

You can. You can get married in the backyard. Our wall matches your tattoos, you know.

Launa Jae 43:03  

It's meant to be, no, what's crazy is you're the second person that's asked if we were gonna get married in Vegas, unwarranted, too.

Lesley Logan 43:10  

Yeah, well, I just like to do unsolicited commands of people getting married in Vegas. 

Lesley Logan 43:16  

My loves. How are you going to use these tips in your life? Please let Launa Jae and the Be It Pod know, share this with a friend who needs to hear it. I mean, there's so many different good one liners to remember. If you find yourself taking a horse though, without water, maybe it's time to be curious. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Lesley Logan 43:37  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 44:19  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 44:24  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 44:28  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 44:36  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 44:39  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Lesley shares an eye-opening stat about feedback bias toward high-performing women and celebrates a win from Dana Karen’s impactful challenge for people with chronic pain. Lesley also shares a personal win about filming for Pilates Anytime and how being challenged creatively led to growth. This episode is your Friday reminder that wins come in many forms and that they’re always worth celebrating.

And as always, if you’re enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.

In this episode you will learn about:

• A surprising stat about negative feedback on high-achieving women.
• How Dana Karen created a powerful shift for clients in chronic pain.
• Why fulfillment sometimes matters more than numbers.
• What challenged Lesley creatively during her Pilates Anytime shoot.
• How doing things differently opens doors for growth.

Episode References/Links:

• Dana Karen's book: You're Meant to Move - https://a.co/d/62woZGt
• Pilates Anytime - https://www.pilatesanytime.com

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

It's Fuck Yeah Friday. 

Brad Crowell 0:01  

Fuck yeah. 

Lesley Logan 0:02  

Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:48  

Hey, Be It babe. Welcome to your FYF episode, your Fuck Yeah Friday episode, where we share wins. We share wins of yours, wins of mine, a mantra, we get inspired, we're to take it ourselves into the weekend, when that's the best time to be inspired, so that you can enter your work week and plan it all out and make your magic happen. So this inspired me. This is very interesting. I don't think it inspired me, but like, intrigued me. Around 76% of high-performing women receive negative feedback, compared to only 2% of high-achieving men. So what this said is around 76% of high-performing women reportedly received negative feedback from their managers, compared to just 2% of high-performing men. That come from data collected from 23,000 employees across 250 organizations, by the way. So why is this happening? So they think unconscious bias leads managers, male or female, to typically evaluate women during performance reviews on their personality rather than the work they contribute. Are they easy to work with? Do they get along with everyone? Are they likable and collaborative? These areas of feedback don't necessarily touch on a woman's performance, which hurts both the employee and the employer. The employee, remember, is the high-performer. She's going to be looking for concrete ways to grow and progress in her career. If she see it receiving feedback on how nice she is, well, she might start looking for work elsewhere. Managers keep it constructed and hold on to top talent. I thought that that was like interesting. I made me wonder, how do I provide feedback to different genders in any of the things that I'm doing? Am I providing feedback specifically on the tasks that they're doing so that they can become better, or am I talking about things that have nothing to do with the project? So I thought that that was just really fascinating to something we could all explore, like, those of you who have people on your team, how are you providing feedback? Are you keeping it even? Are you giving the same kind of feedback to people of another gender in your corporation? Like, how are you doing that? So, anyways, I hope that that kind of gets you thinking. 

Lesley Logan 2:35  

So let's go to one of your wins. This is from DK. My heart is so incredibly full right now. I'm on day two of a seven-day challenge, and I am running for getting active with chronic pain called Meant to Move, after my book. Remember her book? It's Dana Karen's book. I have been busting my ass for the past four weeks or so leading up to this challenge with IG lives and new freebies and tons of promos, and I was so exhausted by the time it even started. I was disappointed at first to just get four sign-ins, because I'm making like, $2 an hour, but I have to say that things are going so well so far, I just got off two back-to-back coaching calls with people telling me how grateful they are for the safe space about the challenge created, and how happy to they feel to have a guidance and support to get going. The second client said to me, the movement part is just a bonus. What I needed was a safe container to put my grief and feelings about movement and where it was okay to be starting from scratch and you gave me that. I mean, that sentiment right there was exactly why I wrote the book, why I created my first pain program in 2022 and why I made this challenge. I have been trying to figure out the correct format for years without success, and I feel like I'm finally hitting on something that might actually work if I can figure out how to find my people. I just feel so fulfilled knowing that this is working for someone, and it made my whole month. Dana Karen, DK, we love you. We're so proud of you. We're so proud of the work that you're doing. Thank you for sharing this with us. Thank you for being you, and thank you for helping people in pain get their move on. 

Lesley Logan 3:53  

All right, my win. Here it is real quick. You guys, I got to film for Pilates Anytime again, and they're dear friends of mine, and they challenged me to come up with some really great stuff. And we looked at the stuff that people have liked to play as anytime and what I want to do, and it's different than what I can do at OPC, and it's really quite fun. And so I can't wait for this content to come out, but I also just love that it challenged me. Challenged me to like, how do I succinctly say what I want to say in this tutorial that's different than my YouTube stuff. How do I create this class so that it makes sense at home, so you can repeat it forever and ever. I don't know their audience as well as I know my OPC audience, and that's different. And so it just was a fun challenge, and I had a great time. And I love the team at Pilates Anytime, and I also want to celebrate that they are been around for 15 years, and they really paved the way for OPC and other platforms like mine to even exist, and they've been so supportive of me and my journey and so just a win for everyone all around. 

Lesley Logan 4:50  

So, now, here we go. Life never leaves me without options. Life never leaves me without options. Life will never leave you without options. 

Lesley Logan 5:01  

Thank you for being you. Thank you for listening to this podcast. Thank you for sharing your wins with me. Send them in I can't wait to read them. Can't wait to share them on our next FYF and until next time, babe, Be It Till You See It.

Lesley Logan 5:13  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 5:55  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. 

Lesley Logan 6:00  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 6:05  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 6:12  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. 

Brad Crowell 6:15  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

In this recap, Lesley and Brad reflect on their convo with Aletta Rochat, a trailblazing and executive presence coach, who shares what it really takes to show up with confidence. Together they unpack why owning your strengths—and saying no when it matters—can shift how you lead, speak, and connect with others. With this episode, you'll leave feeling grounded, energized, and ready to give yourself full permission to belong.

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected].

And as always, if you’re enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.

In this episode you will learn about:

• The real-world script for gracefully exiting client relationships.
• Why permission and belonging unlock authentic confidence.
• The danger of saying yes out of guilt or reflex.
• The difference between reaction and intentional action.
• Why your greatest strengths may be things you take for granted.

Episode References/Links:

• OPC Summer Tour https://opc.me/events
• OPC UK Mullet Tour https://opc.me/uk 
• eLevate Mentorship Program - https://lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist
• Pilates Income Accelerator … prfit.biz/accelerator 
• Cambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.com
• Aletta Rochat Website - https://www.alettarochat.com
• FemGevity - https://www.femgevityhealth.com/?via=lesley
• CliftonStrengths by Gallup - https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths

If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSI

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Be in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlist

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Be a part of Lesley’s Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/

FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/

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·        Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/

·        Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/

·        Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQ

·        Profitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/

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Episode Transcript:

Brad Crowell 0:00  

Because we don't recognize this as a strength, we hold back articulating our value. We don't identify that we have something that most people might not have, and that becomes our superpower. 

Lesley Logan 0:13  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:55  

Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the emboldening convo I had with Aletta Rochat in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode yet, you are missing out. She's amazing. She's a badass. You're gonna wanna listen to it after you listen to this one, if you can just go back into your feed. I mean, she's the first president-elect who's a female for the International Toastmasters. 

Brad Crowell 1:19  

Yeah, international president-elect, yeah. 

Lesley Logan 1:21  

Insane, amazing. And that's not even what she went to school for, or thought she'd be doing. So I just think it's great. We'll get into her in just a second. But first, today is May 29th 2025 and it's World Digestive Health Day. World Digestive Health Day is celebrated every year on May 29th around the world. I think it's really funny whenever they describe the day, and then the description is the same thing with the words. 

Brad Crowell 1:44  

Yeah, it's also like today is May 29th. On May 29th we celebrate. Yes.

Lesley Logan 1:51  

The holiday provides resources and tools for gastrointestinal (G.I.) diseases to help more people in the general public make better decisions around their health. Awareness can lead to early diagnosis and treatment of G.I. diseases including cancer. It should also be known that G.I. diseases can lead to obesity. It can also create more understanding and better support for patients experiencing digestive diseases when their issues and conditions are better understood by the general public. I just think it's so important, if you are dealing with some stomach stuff, most people are not realizing how long they've been dealing with it, and it can lead to, as I mentioned, diseases, cancer, crazy stuff. You can have an imbalance of hormones, your mind, your actual mindset, how you feel, your emotions, are related to your gut, and if your gut biome is a fucking mess, and then you are also like, why does the world hate me? No amount of therapy is going to help you if your gut is telling your brain some other things. And so I highly, highly recommend, if you've got gut stuff going on, go advocate for yourself. If your G.P. is not listening to you, go talk to somebody else. We just had someone come to the house, which blew our mind. Our crappy insurance sent works to the company, and that company came to our house and literally sat down was like, what doctor referrals do you need? And I was like, oh, you can do that for me? And so you all know from over the last year how much FemGevity helped me with my gut stuff. Like, it's been really amazing to know the difference between like, I'm not feeling awesome, and, oh, this is my gut problem and. 

Brad Crowell 3:22  

But it still doesn't change the fact that you have to go to a doctor locally to get blood drawn or things like that, right? 

Lesley Logan 3:28  

Yeah, you still have to go do stuff, yeah? Well, FemGevity sends something to you, but you don't have to use it, like, you have to go, like, it is annoying to go advocate yourself. It is annoying to feel like you're crazy. It's annoying to feel like you're not being listened to. But literally, if you have H. Pylori, and you let it go on its own thing, it can lead to cancer, okay? If you have other things, it can lead like you don't get to ignore your gut, you don't get to. So I'm really excited that this day has its own day, which is May 29th, and it's a world holiday. 

Brad Crowell 3:56  

It's a world holiday. 

Lesley Logan 3:58  

Go talk to your G.I. about your shit, like literal shit. Okay, OPC Summer Tour tickets.

Brad Crowell 4:06  

Don't tell us about your shit when we meet you on tour. 

Lesley Logan 4:09  

No, please don't. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to talk about my shit. I don't want to hear about your shit. But do you want to go on the West Coast tour? The tickets are already available. I actually don't even know how many cities we're going to at the time that we're recording this, but the team does.

Brad Crowell 4:22  

I haven't actually. 

Lesley Logan 4:22  

We are, here's what I do know, we are spending a fuck ton of time and money to cross the border and go to Canada. So we are finally adding an international options to our West Coast tour. And so you're going to definitely want to the other Canada stops and or I know that we're hitting when I say West Coast, I mean California, Oregon, Washington. I know that we are hoping to do Idaho and Utah. Obviously while we're recording this, I don't have it in front of me, but I do know that the tickets sell fast, because our seventh tour, which is our winter tour, our last one, had literal cities sell out in 24 hours. So go to opc.me/events to see all the locations. Next up is September. We're going to be in the U.K. We have two cities with two day events at each one, Leeds and Essex.

Brad Crowell 5:06  

Nineteen.

Lesley Logan 5:08  

19 cities? 

Brad Crowell 5:08  

I think we're on track for 19 cities with classes. 

Lesley Logan 5:12  

Cool. 

Brad Crowell 5:12  

Yeah, on the Summer Tour. 

Lesley Logan 5:13  

Okay, well, thank you. So now we're on to Essex and Leeds and so this is our business in the front, Pilates in the back event, and it's two days long. Super fun, super affordable. You get six workshops, two classes for 550 pounds. 

Brad Crowell 5:29  

I mean, it's kind of a steal, not a lot, yeah. 

Lesley Logan 5:32  

Yeah, it's nuts, it's insane, and it's really fun. We get to spend a lot of time together, and the space is really limited and Leeds is like (inaudible).

Brad Crowell 5:38  

I think it's 485 pounds, 400, it's like 500 pounds. Somewhere around. 

Lesley Logan 5:41  

Oh, maybe it's only 500 pounds. 

Brad Crowell 5:42  

Yeah, because this is exchange thingy, so I can't remember exactly, but. 

Lesley Logan 5:46  

Don't, don't listen to either of us quote a price. Just go to opc.me/uk. 

Brad Crowell 5:51  

Yes. 

Lesley Logan 5:51  

Because the early bird is over, but they're still a deal. Because the actual events, if we were to charge you for each one by itself, is like 2000 pounds, it was something ridiculous. 

Brad Crowell 5:59  

That's way, way, way, way, way more. So yeah. 

Lesley Logan 6:02  

So, opc.me/uk for the Leeds event or the Essex event. Leeds only has 16 spots, and I know we only have four left at the time we're recording this and then (inaudible).

Brad Crowell 6:11  

And it's not just Lesley who will be teaching, it'll be me, too. I'm actually gonna be there helping out. We're gonna do a couple of business life workshops, and then we're gonna do four Pilates workshops where you're digging into actual Pilates stuff, then I'm not teaching those. And then Lesley is also going to do a couple of classes and all the things, and then we're going to hang and, you know, all of it's going to be a blast, so. 

Lesley Logan 6:32  

It's going to be so fun. And here's the deal, if you're like, oh, I'll go to the next U.K., I'm already in talks. 

Brad Crowell 6:37  

Literally don't know when that's going to be. 

Lesley Logan 6:38  

Yeah, I'm already in talks with several other countries that are across the world. And to be honest, Brad and I actually do like living in Vegas. So we are no longer doing multiple 12 hour flights in a year, just like not a thing for us. So I don't know that we'll hit the U.K. in the next two years after this. 

Brad Crowell 6:57  

Yeah, at least.

Lesley Logan 6:57  

Even though that Brad loves it, we'd be there for vacation and not for work. So opc.me/UK is where you get your tickets there. What else, Brad? 

Brad Crowell 7:04  

Okay, next up we got eLevate, y'all. If you've not heard of it, it's Lesley's Pilates mentorship program. It's a nine-month program, and you should do it, because it's going to change the way that you teach in incredibly dramatic way. You're going to feel way more confident about everything. People who take this program have told us they've stopped class planning. Their voices are not shot by the end of the day. They are not afraid of a random client walking in the door that they wouldn't necessarily know what to do with or prepare for. They don't have to do those things anymore, because when you go through this program, what you're going to do is you're going to dig in to all the different pieces of equipment, okay? And you're not just like learning exercises on them, although you will do that, you will learn everything that Lesley learned from Jay Grimes over the more than 10 years she studied with him and with Sandy Shimoda. You are actually going to be connecting the dots across the pieces of equipment that is going to allow you to understand why are you doing this thing with this person on the chair? Why would you then take them over to the barrels and do this other thing over there? And then, you know, because ultimately, you're understanding what their goals are, and then you can create the path through the equipment and through the exercises for them to reach their goals. Okay, how cool is that for you to just be able to understand that and not necessarily have to, like, go hit your books and be like, oh, I can't remember what I need to do with this person. No, when you go through elevate this stuff really comes together. And the the amount of confidence that has brought the people who have finished, which at this point, we got about 50 grads and 25 more people going through it this year. It's just been overwhelming feedback and in a positive way. And we want you to come. We're gonna do just the workout. Come get you know, move with Lesley, and then hang out afterwards. We're gonna do a Q&A talk all about eLevate. We are literally more than 50% sold out for 2026 so there's not that many spots left, but to find out about when this class is going to happen, go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist elevatewaitlist.

Lesley Logan 9:09  

I love this program so much. It's so much fun, and I'm really excited because next year we are going to do the two, two rounds again. We're not going to do it for the following year. This is the last time we can really commit to doing that, mostly because we just had so many people interested. We really, really didn't want you to wait. So we opened up another section, and like Brad said, it's almost sold out. It's just one of my favorite things. I get to spend so much time with you guys, and you, the progression, and then also, when you graduate, you're in the alumni group, and then I get to and then we're still together, and I'm still watching people elevate it's just (inaudible).

Brad Crowell 9:25  

We actually have a smaller group inside of the alumni who all virtually get together once a week to take an OPC class together and encourage each other and just get their movement. 

Lesley Logan 9:51  

From around the world. 

Brad Crowell 9:52  

From around the world. It's super cool. You know, we didn't set that up. They set it up. It's awesome. Anyway you want to be at this class. Go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist that'll be this summer. 

Brad Crowell 10:04  

All right, next up, we got the Pilates Income Accelerator. If you are taking money from any person to teach them anything, whether that's Pilates or yoga or whatever, probably Pilates, because of who our audience usually is, I want you to come to this free workshop that I'm doing called the Pilates Income Accelerator. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator that's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. We're going to be covering three major secrets, about mindset, about money, about the numbers, and about marketing, and the messaging, the language you're using. We're going to be digging into those things, and then afterwards, I'm going to be able to answer questions about your business. So you can send in a question early, and I'll have it prepared so I can read through these questions and make sure everybody gets some kind of an answer here. I want you to come. It's free. You should do it. So go to prfit.biz/accelerator. Finally, Les, where are we going in October?

Lesley Logan 10:59  

Crowsnestretreats.com that's where we're going. We're going to our house in Siem Reap we have a lovely retreat planned for you. Oh my goodness. It's so wonderful. It's so cozy. It's a small group that can attend this event. We do Pilates five days. We go to the temples for two days. We take you to a lotus farm. We take you on a water tour. You get massages, and you also get to, like, really figure out what it is that you want when you leave, when you go home from the retreat. 

Brad Crowell 11:26  

Yeah, so those are all what are we doing, but why would they go? 

Lesley Logan 11:30  

Oh, I mean, because you're gonna feel like a freaking rock star when you come back, like you're actually gonna feel so good, you're gonna feel like you actually were in wonderment for a week. Wouldn't you like to get in wonderment for a week? I think so.

Brad Crowell 11:43  

Yeah. Wonder. 

Lesley Logan 11:45  

Why do you think? 

Brad Crowell 11:46  

When you think about Angkor Wat, it does create that intense curiosity, that wonder. How was it possible that they did what they did 1000 years ago, and for it to still be standing today, with all this epic, intricate carvings and all this stuff. You know, when you go on a journey like this, it's an adventure. You get to meet other amazing, adventurous people. We've also had, similar to eLevate, we've had retreaters stay connected afterwards. We've had like group retreat calls afterwards. We've had retreaters come back, bringing other people, because it was so inspirational. 

Lesley Logan 12:24  

This coming one in October has someone from the last one, and then someone she's bringing her friend. And then last October, we had someone coming for the second year in a row, so like, just fun. 

Brad Crowell 12:34  

Three or four times now, you know, yeah, we've had it happen over the years. 

Lesley Logan 12:38  

It's a true like, when we hear the word retreat, it's like a true retreat. You get to really turn off what's going on in the world and focus on you and being in awe.

Brad Crowell 12:47  

Yeah, that's what's in it for you, y'all and you should join us. Go to crowsnestretreats.com. Before we get to Aletta, we have an audience question but. 

Lesley Logan 12:55  

Yes, okay, I'm hijacking the questions again. 

Brad Crowell 12:57  

Yeah, before you ask the question, I'm just gonna give it a quick preface. We spent the better part of a year building a tool that allows you to effectively have your own internal Google search situation going on through an AI tool that allows you to understand all the answers that Lesley and I have been giving to people for the past 10 years of coaching for fitness business. We call it the Pocket LL. And this tool, it was trained on 10 million words, where blog posts, webinars, courses, coaching, calls, group coaching calls, all these things where we're answering all these questions. And then we compiled it all into this insane database. And then we've got this awesome tool that you get to use when you're an Agency member. And today, we wanted to feature a question anonymously. We're not going to say the person's name, but we're going to feature a question that somebody actually asked the Pocket LL, so here you go.

Lesley Logan 13:48  

Yeah, so I have a problem client that gives me anxiety every time she comes in, but I owe her another six sessions in her 10 back. How do I fire her? 

Brad Crowell 13:57  

That is, that's tough. 

Lesley Logan 13:58  

And Pocket LL, said firing a client is never easy, but it's often necessary for your peace of mind and the health of your business. The image you see here captures an essential truth, it will never feel good to fire a client, but the sooner you take action, the fewer issues you'll have. Holding onto a problematic client can cost you more than just your sanity. It can affect your energy, your other clients and even your team. Here's how you can handle this gracefully. One, acknowledge sessions owed. You can refund the remaining six sessions or offer them to another instructor if you have one available, this ensures you're honoring the financial commitment without continuing the relationship. Two, be direct, but kind, say something like, thank you so much for working with me. I've realized that I'm no longer the best fit for your Pilates journey. I'd be happy to recommend another instructor or studio that might suit your needs better. Three, stick to your boundaries. If this client has been violating your policies or creating undue stress, don't feel obligated to explain or justify your decision. As I said before, you're not going to convince crazy. Keep it professional and move forward. I love when she quotes herself, which is me. 

Brad Crowell 15:00  

You're not gonna convince crazy. That is amazing.

Lesley Logan 15:03  

I know. I mean, like I said that, so that's what I love about this. Okay. Four, prepare for pushback. Some clients may try to argue or guilt you into staying. Stay firm. Remember, you're creating space for better clients who respect your time and energy. And number five, focus on the opportunity. Once this client is gone, you'll have room for someone who uplifts you and aligns with your business values. Trust that the universe will fill that space with someone amazing. And then she always prompts with other questions. If you want to continue the conversation or you can just go start it's all good. 

Brad Crowell 15:32  

Yep. Yeah. I mean, listening to those answers, I actually know the story behind every piece of that answer, because it's multiple conversations, over multiple calls, over multiple years, over multiple courses. And it's amazing that this, this tool is a, this search tool, is able to gather all that information and turn around and present it to you in a way that is cohesive, concise, and also you can actually use to take action. So. 

Lesley Logan 15:57  

And it's and it's from all the years of experience of coaching thousands of businesses, and also all of my years of being and everything in this industry you could be. So I just really am so proud of the Pocket LL. And I do go through once a week and edit anything. And I'll, first, I stick with the things where people trigger an alert, because you could say avocado, if she makes sense to you. And then also I'll just go through for quality control and just read some of our answers. Sometimes I add another sentence because I'm like, oh, here's another idea. You know, now that I'm this many more years or I've helped this many more people, so it's always evolving. It's always getting better, and it's there for you no matter where you live in the world, as long as you're an Agency member. 

Brad Crowell 16:36  

Yep, yeah. So if you're interested in what that even means, what that is, come to my free webinar like I was talking about go to prfit.biz/accelerator we will talk about Agency at the end, before I answer questions and come check it out.

Lesley Logan 16:48  

And then also, we'll go back to answering the questions you send in. I just wanted to hijack it because it's my podcast. 

Brad Crowell 16:53  

I love it. I love it. All right. Well, stick around we'll be right back. We're going to dig into the conversation you have with Aletta Rochat. It was very inspirational. She is really good at bringing out excellence in people, so we'll be right back. 

Brad Crowell 17:09  

All right. Welcome back. Let's talk about Aletta Rochat. Aletta is a public speaking coach and executive presence mentor based in Cape Town, South Africa. So an executive presence mentor, okay? She coached and trained in 21 countries, and will soon become the first woman from Africa the and only the 10th woman in 100 years to be the international president of Toastmasters International. So the 10th woman in the in what the last 100 years. She helps clients become more confident presenters by communicating with clarity, owning their presidents and reclaiming their sense of belonging. She also has been involved with Toastmasters since 2008. She has gone through all their educational material, and she's like the highest educator that they certify all the things she actually had a really great story about how she started to realize public speaking became like her survival mechanism, and then how it went on to now become her, you know, how she's supporting others succeed. I thought that was pretty cool. 

Lesley Logan 18:10  

I also just, you know, like you like you hear, I heard about Toastmasters, like. 

Brad Crowell 18:14  

I've heard about it so many times and I've never done, I don't even know what it was. 

Lesley Logan 18:16  

And you kind of think like, oh, it's kind of like a Moose Club, like the Moose Lodge. Like, it's just, you know what I mean, but it's not, it's like, still going so strong, and it's helping a lot of people.

Brad Crowell 18:26  

She said they're in 150 countries. 

Lesley Logan 18:27  

Yeah and it made me go all the people who are like, I need a friend. Go to fucking Toastmasters. Like, hear their stories. You'll connect. Yeah, you have to publicly speak, but you're gonna be around people.

Brad Crowell 18:37  

Well, she said you're guaranteed claps and guaranteed support, or you're guaranteed an audience and you're guaranteed claps. 

Lesley Logan 18:43  

It sounds better than AA, where you also get both of those. I just think it sounds amazing. I'm so excited we're gonna highlight this. She said, "I show up differently when I think I belong." And she said that someone once told her, remember that you belong. That phrase helped her stay relaxed and be more spontaneous and likely to share her ideas. And I think that that's so important because for her to be where she's at in, in the world, but also in Toastmasters, each time she leveled up, there'd be, like, a reason to go, oh my God, who let me in here? They're gonna find out, like Maya Angelou is like, someone's gonna find out that I don't know what I'm doing. But if you remember that you belong, it changes how you show up. And you show up willing to be more yourself, which is going to allow you to connect with more people. And it's just so, so important. 

Brad Crowell 19:32  

Well, I think also not only the vibes, the vibes are weird when you feel like you don't belong, but when you feel like you belong, you will approach the group, the conversation, the experience, in a much different way, because you're gonna participate. I mean, honestly, that's like the biggest thing. When you feel like you belong, you feel like you're allowed to participate, and if you feel like you don't belong, what do you do? You stand there and listen. You don't talk, you don't do anything. So I thought it was really, also, like, amazing that advice, hey, remember that you do belong. Remember that you do and she said, this was instantaneously a life-changing statement for her. 

Lesley Logan 20:11  

Yeah. And so she even said, even though it wasn't a Be It Action Item yet, she said, "If you belong, how would you show up? How would you speak up?" And she says, like, it's like a fundamental building block of confidence and executive presence. And I just thought, yeah, we need to put that on our mirrors everywhere we can read them before we walk into a room where it's new for us. We're feeling a little nervous. I just thought was brilliant.

Brad Crowell 20:32  

I really dug in when she was talking about when to say yes, because you, you were asking her, it's like, wow, you seem willing to say yes to things. And she said, to my own detriment, sometimes I've said yes when I shouldn't have, but she said, the worst thing you could do is say yes to something that you don't want to do. And she was talking about, I think her example was like the Boy Scout troop, they asked her to do some specific role and and she said, thanks, but that's not the right role for me. I you know, she said there was nothing about it that lit me on fire, nothing that was exciting in any way to me, and to other people it might be really exciting, but for her, it wasn't. And she she said something very specific. She said when you say yes to something that you don't want to do, you literally start off building resentment from the, from day one. 

Lesley Logan 21:19  

Yeah, she's correct. Honestly, I can look back going to the question, like, how do we fire a client? I remember taking the check going, I don't really want to teach her. And then the moment she texts me the next week, can I change my time? I'm like, like, it was, like a zero to 60 resentment, as opposed to someone I was really fired up to teach but like, oh yeah, this is your first time. We can do it, but not after that, you know. So she is 100%.

Brad Crowell 21:44  

Yeah, that was so poignant that she identified the resentment factor right out of the gate, you know. And we, why do we say yes to things that we don't want to do? Probably because we feel stuck, you know, like we feel like we have to. We feel like we're, you know, social pressure, guilt, money, something. There's underlying fear there that is making us do it. Could be family. That's like forcing us to do it, and it just builds that resentment. She said it should be both sides of the coin. You want to say yes because you want to do it and you also want to learn. I mean, what are the stories we tell ourselves? I have to say yes because I'm the right person for the job. I have the most experience. I just have to do it. No one else is going to do it, so I'm going to do it. These are a lot of reasons why we say yes, but we don't want to. Ultimately, it's important to offer service. I'm not arguing that we shouldn't be serving people, but even that service should be also doing something for you.

Lesley Logan 22:37  

Yeah, because you won't show up the same you just won't show up the same way. And I had someone who we actually really love and support in a lot of ways financially, and they'd ask me to be on a board. And if you guys have ever been around me, you know I've been on a board before I got burned. It was traumatizing. It was a whole thing. And I was like, I'll never be on an unpaid board again. And of course, I get this invite to apply. And I was like, there's a part of me is like, oh, they want me. And then I was like, oh, I can't do this. And then I was like, oh, I'm gonna let them down. I have, I know they need someone. Maybe I could do it if it's just, like, this much time a week, I was literally doing like, mental gymnastics to figure out how to say yes to the thing I already knew would not be the right thing. And then it took me forever to write up a thank you. But no, thank you. And you know what they said? We totally understand and thank you for being so honest. We don't want anyone to do this because they feel obligated, you know, and know that the door's always open if you, if anything ever changes and I was just like, oh, it could be that simple. It could be that simple. And honestly, if they'd answered any other way, I've been like, we're so disappointed. That is a fucking red flag to run away from. But if they're willing to be grateful, and you know, if they asked me, like, Who else do you do you know anyone else who could be right for this? I would have absolutely sent them some people, you know. So I just think that, like you can also see the true colors of the person if you're, if you're being authentically honest about whether you can say yes or no. 

Brad Crowell 24:09  

I was laughing when she started to, to, she basically said, if you have helium hand, where just your hand goes up and you can't seem to stop it. I was laughing. I was like, what did she say? I literally rewound it. Listened to it twice. She said she's now learned to sit in her hands every now and again. So, good for her. And she said, you know, just make sure saying yes is not a reaction or a reflex reaction, but it's a concerted action. It's a decision that you're making. So awesome. 

Brad Crowell 24:37  

Well anyway, great takeaways right there from Aletta. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into those Be It Action Items. 

Brad Crowell 24:46  

All right, welcome back. Let's dig into those Be It Action Items from Aletta Rochat. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo? She said, hey, here is how you identify your superpowers, which I'm all about. She said what are the clues to your superpowers? It's what other people keep asking you for help with. What is, what is it that you are consistently asked about, like, hey, can you help me, like, prep this thing or cook this dish or organize this event or be on the board or whatever. What is the thing that you keep being asked to do? She shared that most people overlook their strength, strengths because A. they come supernaturally to you. You might not even realize that they are a strength that you have, that others don't. They often become the most powerful gifts, right? Like, my mom has the gift of gab. That's what everybody said. Wow your mom, she's amazing. She talks to everybody. She's got the gift of gab, right? Well, sometimes the gift of gab was like, my dad was like, are we ready to go? Are we ready to go? So the way that I grew up, sometimes the gift of gab was a negative thing, because it was like, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, right? And it wasn't until later that I realized that it can also be a positive thing. So sometimes we look at what actually is a strength in the wrong light.

Lesley Logan 26:04  

Because somebody may have told you, yeah, told you you talk too much, or you're a big jokester, or you don't take things seriously, but there's always a positive side to a coin. 

Brad Crowell 26:12  

Yeah, and I'm not trying to do my dad a disservice there, but I called him out, that's not what I meant.

Lesley Logan 26:17  

If Steven listens to this. Hi, Steven. You can come visit anytime.

Brad Crowell 26:30  

Aletta said that somehow society, that's a very inside joke, y'all, and I don't think literally, anybody except for my family, would get that. Aletta also said somehow society has conditioned us that we tend to verbalize what we're good at saying, oh, it's nothing, no big deal. Oh, yeah, you know, glad to help. You know, but we don't actually identify that it's really a superpower. An example that I didn't understand when I was in my band in when I first moved out to L.A. and I'm like, running around getting us set up to do the get the show, I talked to the venue owner, I like, figured out the night of the week that the band could do it. We rehearsed. We had to do a bunch of rehearsals. We get in there. We made a little marketing flyer. We distributed the marketing flyer, got it out into the community. All to do what? I just wanted to play. I just wanted to play on stage, right? And so I'm doing all the things to so that I can get up on stage and play. And what I didn't understand was that doing all those things that's actually part of my superpower. I saw the path through, how do I get to the end goal, you know? And then what are the steps that we need to do to do it? And ultimately, when I, when I finally identified that this was a strength of mine by doing the Strengths Finders exam, the first time I took it in 2010, it was this mind-blowing thing, because I was like, oh, everybody doesn't do that. I thought this was just the what you just do, what you have to do. I guess. That's the way I saw it. And it wasn't until I understood that this was actually valuable that I was able to go get a job to do literally that, and that's how I got into operations instead of companies. Kind of crazy. (inaudible) Yeah, you know, she said, We trivialize it because we don't recognize this as a strength. We hold back articulating our value. We don't identify that we have something that most people might not have, and that becomes our superpower. It can, it should. When we look at it through that lens, suddenly you're like, oh, this is something I'm inherently good at, and that is really a superpower. It's amazing. Like my mom's gift of gab is a superpower. You know, figuring out a way through the chaos is my superpower. But how do you identify that? Right? Then, when you finally are able to identify that again, I do recommend Strengths Finders, Clifton Strengths, they call it now. Now you get to finally say, my superpower is x, right?

Lesley Logan 28:48  

Yeah. 

Brad Crowell 28:49  

What about you? 

Lesley Logan 28:50  

Okay, so I said it before, but I think it's real. I really love that it's back here in the Be It Action Items, just in case you need to hear it again. She said, reclaim your sense of belonging and give yourself permission to belong. Aletta urged us to reclaim the feeling of belonging if we've lost it. She emphasized, it's within our power to grant ourselves permission to belong. And once you reclaim it, start playing with it. You can start thinking and start speaking and start acting as if you belong. It might feel like you're this is like the true be it till you see it, it's gonna feel like you're acting. There was an interview that's coming out, or it may have already been out, where someone talked about how they love the podcast name, because every day, we allow actors to play a role in a movie, and we believe them, right? We believe that they are that person for that period of time. And being it till you see it is like acting as it. And so you are going to reclaim it, and you're gonna play with it. You're gonna play with belonging, all that stuff, and before you know it, you'll have played it so much that you become it. That's it. You become the person that belongs. You're giving yourself permission. So I just thought, I was like, that's a be it till you see it right there. That's why this exists. So thank you, Aletta, for being you. You're so amazing. I'm so glad we're able to make this happen. I'm Lesley Logan. 

Brad Crowell 30:03  

And I'm Brad Crowell. 

Lesley Logan 30:04  

Thank you so much for listening. I hope this was really awesome for you. I really loved it. I also just love her voice. I love the way she explained things, the helium hand, like there's just so many things to go back to and listen. So please take another listen through if you haven't already, share it with a friend who needs to hear it, especially the ones who need to sit on their hands, but also the ones who need to be reminded that they belong and until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Brad Crowell 30:26  

Bye for now.

Lesley Logan 30:28  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 31:10  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 31:15  

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Brad Crowell 31:19  

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Lesley Logan 31:26  

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Brad Crowell 31:30  

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