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The Hears How podcast is hosted by entertainment journalist Erin Jensen, who has a long-standing fascination with resiliency. Whenever she comes across a remarkable story of triumph, Erin wonders to herself, "How on Earth did they do that?" In this podcast, for which new episodes are released every other Sunday, Erin and her guests explain Hears How.
The Hears How podcast is hosted by entertainment journalist Erin Jensen, who has a long-standing fascination with resiliency. Whenever she comes across a remarkable story of triumph, Erin wonders to herself, "How on Earth did they do that?" In this podcast, for which new episodes are released every other Sunday, Erin and her guests explain Hears How.
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Rachel Zimmerman is a journalist and author known for her poignant exploration of grief and resilience following the loss of her husband, Seth Teller, who died by suicide. She has written a memoir titled 'Us, After: A Memoir of Love and Suicide,' where she shares her personal journey through the emotional aftermath of her husband's death, the challenges of understanding his struggles, and her efforts to rebuild a life for herself and their daughters. Rachel's work emphasizes the importance of addressing mental health issues and the stigma surrounding suicide, aiming to provide comfort and insight to others facing similar tragedies.
Rachel Zimmerman is a journalist and author known for her poignant exploration of grief and resilience following the loss of her husband, Seth Teller, who died by suicide. She has written a memoir titled 'Us, After: A Memoir of Love and Suicide,' where she shares her personal journey through the emotional aftermath of her husband's death, the challenges of understanding his struggles, and her efforts to rebuild a life for herself and their daughters. Rachel's work emphasizes the importance of addressing mental health issues and the stigma surrounding suicide, aiming to provide comfort and insight to others facing similar tragedies.
Laura Cathcart Robbins is an author and speaker known for her memoir, 'Stash: My Life in Hiding,' which details her journey through addiction and recovery. She has been an advocate for mental health awareness and shares her experiences candidly to help others facing similar struggles. Laura is also the host of the podcast 'The Only One in the Room,' where she explores themes of addiction, recovery, and personal authenticity.
Laura Cathcart Robbins is an author and speaker known for her memoir, 'Stash: My Life in Hiding,' which details her journey through addiction and recovery. She has been an advocate for mental health awareness and shares her experiences candidly to help others facing similar struggles. Laura is also the host of the podcast 'The Only One in the Room,' where she explores themes of addiction, recovery, and personal authenticity.
Shayne Patrick Burke is an army reservist who gained national attention after surviving a grizzly bear attack during his honeymoon in May 2024. Prior to the incident, Shayne had undergone surgery to remove a non-cancerous brain tumor, which had a significant impact on his life and activities. An avid rock climber and wildlife photographer, Shayne was on a solo hike in Grand Teton National Park when he encountered the bear. His story is one of survival, resilience, and the human spirit's capacity to overcome adversity.
Shayne Patrick Burke is an army reservist who gained national attention after surviving a grizzly bear attack during his honeymoon in May 2024. Prior to the incident, Shayne had undergone surgery to remove a non-cancerous brain tumor, which had a significant impact on his life and activities. An avid rock climber and wildlife photographer, Shayne was on a solo hike in Grand Teton National Park when he encountered the bear. His story is one of survival, resilience, and the human spirit's capacity to overcome adversity.
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In this episode of Hears How, we talk about suicide and its emotional aftermath. If this topic is sensitive for you, please take care of yourself — whether that means pressing pause or choosing another episode.
Remember that help is available, you are not alone, and your life matters.
For the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, call or text 988
To reach the Crisis Text Line, text HOME to 741741
Journalist and author Rachel Zimmerman met Seth Teller in her mid-30s.
“He was a devoted father to our 8 and 11 year old daughters,” she shares. “He was a tenured professor of robotics at MIT. He was very close with his family.”
Rachel and Seth were together for 15 years, married for 12.
“That’s partially why it felt so out of the blue,” Rachel says. “From the outside, it looked like he had a charmed life.”
In this profoundly moving episode, Rachel opens up about her search for answers, drawing from her book "Us, After: A Memoir of Love and Suicide." She shares the grief, guilt, confusion, and ultimately, the resilience that followed her loss.
“The questions were, ‘Why did he do this?’” she says. “'What was going on in his brain?’ And also, of course, the flip side of that, which is, ‘Could I have stopped it?’ And, ‘Did I miss the signs?’”
This conversation is about the messiness of grief, the stigma that surrounds suicide, and the slow, sacred return of joy. It’s about a mother rebuilding a life for her daughters, and it’s a reminder that we can survive the unimaginable.
“Grief does not unfold in tidy stages; it lurches,” Rachel says. “It isn’t, ‘At first you’ll feel this, then it’ll move to this and then it’ll be this and you’ll never feel that first thing again.’ It’s messy and ugly and not fair. And you feel all of these things, and it’s okay. And it does get better.”
In this episode:
1:40 Rachel and Seth’s life together: “He loved being a hero to the girls.”
3:57 Signs: “It wasn’t the signs we typically look for, but I think in retrospect, there were other signs.”
5:14 Rachel's search for answers: “I really believed that finding answers would give me some form of relief.”
8:33 What Rachel learned in her interviews with doctors and experts
10:45 Rachel interviews Leonard, a man who attempted suicide: “I thought maybe he would unlock this truth about what he was thinking right before.”
13:10 Rachel’s stopping point: “I am never going to understand it fully.”
14:26 Reclaiming joy: “Let’s allow pleasure and joy to come back in.’"
17:54 Rachel’s advice for people who have lost their spouses: “It does get better…and you need to ask for help.”
20:13 Final thoughts: “Obviously it was a disaster and caused tremendous pain. But in the back of my mind, as I was writing, the good was that we survived and thrived and found joy again.”
In this episode of Hears How, we talk about suicide and its emotional aftermath. If this topic is sensitive for you, please take care of yourself — whether that means pressing pause or choosing another episode.
Remember that help is available, you are not alone, and your life matters.
For the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, call or text 988
To reach the Crisis Text Line, text HOME to 741741
Journalist and author Rachel Zimmerman met Seth Teller in her mid-30s.
“He was a devoted father to our 8 and 11 year old daughters,” she shares. “He was a tenured professor of robotics at MIT. He was very close with his family.”
Rachel and Seth were together for 15 years, married for 12.
“That’s partially why it felt so out of the blue,” Rachel says. “From the outside, it looked like he had a charmed life.”
In this profoundly moving episode, Rachel opens up about her search for answers, drawing from her book "Us, After: A Memoir of Love and Suicide." She shares the grief, guilt, confusion, and ultimately, the resilience that followed her loss.
“The questions were, ‘Why did he do this?’” she says. “'What was going on in his brain?’ And also, of course, the flip side of that, which is, ‘Could I have stopped it?’ And, ‘Did I miss the signs?’”
This conversation is about the messiness of grief, the stigma that surrounds suicide, and the slow, sacred return of joy. It’s about a mother rebuilding a life for her daughters, and it’s a reminder that we can survive the unimaginable.
“Grief does not unfold in tidy stages; it lurches,” Rachel says. “It isn’t, ‘At first you’ll feel this, then it’ll move to this and then it’ll be this and you’ll never feel that first thing again.’ It’s messy and ugly and not fair. And you feel all of these things, and it’s okay. And it does get better.”
In this episode:
1:40 Rachel and Seth’s life together: “He loved being a hero to the girls.”
3:57 Signs: “It wasn’t the signs we typically look for, but I think in retrospect, there were other signs.”
5:14 Rachel's search for answers: “I really believed that finding answers would give me some form of relief.”
8:33 What Rachel learned in her interviews with doctors and experts
10:45 Rachel interviews Leonard, a man who attempted suicide: “I thought maybe he would unlock this truth about what he was thinking right before.”
13:10 Rachel’s stopping point: “I am never going to understand it fully.”
14:26 Reclaiming joy: “Let’s allow pleasure and joy to come back in.’"
17:54 Rachel’s advice for people who have lost their spouses: “It does get better…and you need to ask for help.”
20:13 Final thoughts: “Obviously it was a disaster and caused tremendous pain. But in the back of my mind, as I was writing, the good was that we survived and thrived and found joy again.”
Laura Cathcart Robbins’ story is for anyone who has ever felt like they had to bury who they really are to be seen, loved, and accepted. She has written about her recovery in her memoir, “Stash: My Life in Hiding,” and candidly shares her experience in this episode of Hears How.
Laura and her husband welcomed two sons in consecutive years. They were energetic little boys, who slept as long as Laura cradled them in her arms. When they got a little bit older, the children went to an elite private school, which tapped Laura as president of its parents’ association. From the outside, her family had everything to be envious of.
"We had all the things that people thought, ‘If I had that, I would be happy,’” Laura says. “They looked at us, including me at the time, and thought they have it all together. This is the goal,” and Laura, “worked hard to keep up that facade.
“The only thing I really cared about, really cared about was my connection to my children,” she continues. “But in order for me to do anything, I needed the Ambien and the booze. I had to wash it down with booze in order to get it to be as effective as I needed it to be.”
When Laura was first prescribed Ambien in 2002, it gave her, “the best sleep of my life,” she says. “I woke up the next morning full of energy. I can be the fun mom and, ‘Let’s go to the pumpkin patch,’ and let's do all the things that I would be dragging myself to normally.”
“I think that the addiction probably wouldn't have come into play if I weren't so separated from who I am authentically,” she assesses. “By the time I had my kids and was physically just kind of devastated by the lack of sleep and by the kids who wanted my attention all the time, I think I was ripe for an addiction. And because I have this front that I like to keep up, I'm not great at asking for help.”
In this episode:
1:26: How Laura’s desire to be the perfect mom and wife resulted in silent suffering and anxiety-fueled insomnia
2:54: The start of an addiction and her life in hiding
7:04: How being disconnected from her authentic self made her vulnerable to addiction
9:26: The breaking point: When Laura knew she had to make a change
13:23: Her difficult time in treatment where she met her “person”
15:47: The moment she realized she wanted sobriety
18:56: What has aided her recovery
20:39: Laura’s message to those impacted by addiction
22:50: How to recognize the signs in your own life
Laura Cathcart Robbins’ story is for anyone who has ever felt like they had to bury who they really are to be seen, loved, and accepted. She has written about her recovery in her memoir, “Stash: My Life in Hiding,” and candidly shares her experience in this episode of Hears How.
Laura and her husband welcomed two sons in consecutive years. They were energetic little boys, who slept as long as Laura cradled them in her arms. When they got a little bit older, the children went to an elite private school, which tapped Laura as president of its parents’ association. From the outside, her family had everything to be envious of.
"We had all the things that people thought, ‘If I had that, I would be happy,’” Laura says. “They looked at us, including me at the time, and thought they have it all together. This is the goal,” and Laura, “worked hard to keep up that facade.
“The only thing I really cared about, really cared about was my connection to my children,” she continues. “But in order for me to do anything, I needed the Ambien and the booze. I had to wash it down with booze in order to get it to be as effective as I needed it to be.”
When Laura was first prescribed Ambien in 2002, it gave her, “the best sleep of my life,” she says. “I woke up the next morning full of energy. I can be the fun mom and, ‘Let’s go to the pumpkin patch,’ and let's do all the things that I would be dragging myself to normally.”
“I think that the addiction probably wouldn't have come into play if I weren't so separated from who I am authentically,” she assesses. “By the time I had my kids and was physically just kind of devastated by the lack of sleep and by the kids who wanted my attention all the time, I think I was ripe for an addiction. And because I have this front that I like to keep up, I'm not great at asking for help.”
In this episode:
1:26: How Laura’s desire to be the perfect mom and wife resulted in silent suffering and anxiety-fueled insomnia
2:54: The start of an addiction and her life in hiding
7:04: How being disconnected from her authentic self made her vulnerable to addiction
9:26: The breaking point: When Laura knew she had to make a change
13:23: Her difficult time in treatment where she met her “person”
15:47: The moment she realized she wanted sobriety
18:56: What has aided her recovery
20:39: Laura’s message to those impacted by addiction
22:50: How to recognize the signs in your own life
In May 2024, army reservist Shayne Patrick Burke was enjoying his honeymoon. He and his wife, Chloe, visited national parks, with Shayne ready to snap his camera and capture a Great Grey Owl.
Two years earlier, doctors removed a non-cancerous brain tumor about the size of a golfball, and Shayne was eager to get back to doing things he enjoyed, like rock climbing and wildlife photography.
On a solo hike in Grand Teton National Park, Shayne couldn’t shake an “eerie feeling.”
“I didn't really quite feel alone,” he says. “I felt like something bad was gonna happen.”
Shayne spotted a bear cub, and merely seconds later, “the mom was jumping on me,” he says. “I just told myself I was probably gonna die.”
Miraculously Shayne survived. Listen as he reveals what was going through his mind during the attack, his rescue, and his emotional and physical recovery journey. Don’t miss this gripping story of survival, love, and resiliency of the human spirit.
In this episode:
2:29 The honeymoon adventure: Searching for the Great Gray Owl
3:11 Shayne’s solo hike: “I did start to get a real eerie feeling”
4:37 The bear attack: A fight for survival
9:33 Rescue and recovery: “I just blew my whistle. S-O-S, S-O-S constantly.”
13:10 Reflections and gratitude: Life after the attack
14:44 Final thoughts: advice and appreciation
In May 2024, army reservist Shayne Patrick Burke was enjoying his honeymoon. He and his wife, Chloe, visited national parks, with Shayne ready to snap his camera and capture a Great Grey Owl.
Two years earlier, doctors removed a non-cancerous brain tumor about the size of a golfball, and Shayne was eager to get back to doing things he enjoyed, like rock climbing and wildlife photography.
On a solo hike in Grand Teton National Park, Shayne couldn’t shake an “eerie feeling.”
“I didn't really quite feel alone,” he says. “I felt like something bad was gonna happen.”
Shayne spotted a bear cub, and merely seconds later, “the mom was jumping on me,” he says. “I just told myself I was probably gonna die.”
Miraculously Shayne survived. Listen as he reveals what was going through his mind during the attack, his rescue, and his emotional and physical recovery journey. Don’t miss this gripping story of survival, love, and resiliency of the human spirit.
In this episode:
2:29 The honeymoon adventure: Searching for the Great Gray Owl
3:11 Shayne’s solo hike: “I did start to get a real eerie feeling”
4:37 The bear attack: A fight for survival
9:33 Rescue and recovery: “I just blew my whistle. S-O-S, S-O-S constantly.”
13:10 Reflections and gratitude: Life after the attack
14:44 Final thoughts: advice and appreciation
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