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Join us as we train our neural nets on the theme of the century: AI. Sonya Huang, Pat Grady and more Sequoia Capital partners host conversations with leading AI builders and researchers to ask critical questions and develop a deeper understanding of the evolving technologies—and their implications for technology, business and society.

The content of this podcast does not constitute investment advice, an offer to provide investment advisory services, or an offer to sell or solicitation of an offer to buy an interest in any investment fund.

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Sonya Huang Pat Grady Stephanie Zhan Lauren Reeder Josephine Chen David Cahn

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Carl Eschenbach
Carl Eschenbach is the CEO of Workday, a leading provider of enterprise cloud applications for finance and human resources. He has a strong background in technology and business, having previously served as a partner at Sequoia Capital and held various leadership roles at VMware, where he was instrumental in driving the company's growth and innovation. Eschenbach is known for his expertise in cloud computing, enterprise software, and AI technologies, and is a prominent figure in discussions about the future of work and the integration of AI in business processes.
Max Jaderberg
Max Jaderberg is a prominent AI researcher and the Chief AI Officer of Isomorphic Labs, a company focused on revolutionizing drug discovery through artificial intelligence. He previously worked at DeepMind, where he was instrumental in pioneering reinforcement learning breakthroughs, including significant contributions to projects like Capture the Flag and AlphaStar. His work has been pivotal in advancing the understanding of AI's potential in various applications, particularly in the field of drug design and molecular interactions.
Manny Medina
Manny Medina is the former CEO of Outreach, a leading sales engagement platform. He is now the CEO of Paid, a company that specializes in billing, pricing, and margin management tools specifically designed for AI companies. With a strong background in technology and entrepreneurship, Manny has been instrumental in shaping the future of pricing strategies in the AI sector, advocating for innovative approaches that align with the unique needs of AI businesses.
Patrick Hsu
Patrick Hsu is the co-founder of Arc Institute, an organization focused on advancing biological research through artificial intelligence. He has a background in biology and computational methods, and is known for his work on Evo 2, a biology foundation model that leverages vast genomic datasets to uncover evolutionary patterns and facilitate applications in disease mutation identification and molecular design.
Amjad Masad
Amjad Masad is the CEO and co-founder of Replit, a platform that enables users to write and share code collaboratively. With a background in software development, Amjad has been a prominent advocate for democratizing coding and empowering a new generation of software creators. He has a rich history of programming, having started in Jordan, and has been instrumental in shaping the vision of Replit to unleash 1 billion software creators worldwide. His insights into the impact of AI on the economy and society are informed by his extensive experience in the tech industry.

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AI Workday Carl Eschenbach human workers AI workers monetizing AI seat-based pricing role-based agents consumption-based API access domain-specific agents curated data enterprise AI-powered workplace human connection drug discovery reinforcement learning AlphaFold 3 molecular interactions general AI models disease pricing models SaaS outcome-based pricing agent-based pricing unit economics biology Evo 2 genomic data evolutionary patterns disease mutations molecular design genome scale systems 1 Billion Developers Replit software creators developer population global economy management approach

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0:00 47:49

Workday CEO Carl Eschenbach: Building the System of Record for the AI Era

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Sonya Huang Pat Grady
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Carl Eschenbach
Keywords
AI Workday Carl Eschenbach human workers AI workers monetizing AI seat-based pricing role-based agents consumption-based API access domain-specific agents curated data enterprise AI-powered workplace human connection
Workday CEO and Sequoia partner Carl Eschenbach explains how the company is evolving its platform to handle both human and AI workers. He shares Workdays three-pronged approach to monetizing AI through seat-based pricing, role-based agents and consumption-based API access. Eschenbach discusses why domain-specific agents with curated data will be more valuable than general-purpose models in the enterprise, and how Workday is helping enterprises navigate the transition to an AI-powered workplace while maintaining human connection.

Hosted by: Sonya Huang and Pat Grady, Sequoia Capital
0:00 55:40

The Quest to ‘Solve All Diseases’ with AI: Isomorphic Labs’ Max Jaderberg

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Stephanie Zhan
Guests
Max Jaderberg
Keywords
AI drug discovery reinforcement learning AlphaFold 3 molecular interactions general AI models disease
After pioneering reinforcement learning breakthroughs at DeepMind with Capture the Flag and AlphaStar, Max Jaderberg aims to revolutionize drug discovery with AI as Chief AI Officer of Isomorphic Labs, which was spun out of DeepMind. He discusses how AlphaFold 3's diffusion-based architecture enables unprecedented understanding of molecular interactions, and why we're approaching a "Move 37 moment" in AI-powered drug design where models will surpass human intuition. Max shares his vision for general AI models that can solve all diseases, and the importance of developing agents that can learn to search through the whole potential design space.

Hosted by Stephanie Zhan, Sequoia capital

Mentioned in this episode: 

Playing Atari with Deep Reinforcement Learning: Seminal 2013 paper on Reinforcement Learning 



Capture the Flag: 2019 DeepMind paper on the emergence of cooperative agents



AlphaStar: 2019 DeepMind paper on attaining grandmaster level in StarCraft II using multi-agent RL

AlphaFold Server: Web interface for AlphaFold 3 model for non-commercial academic use
0:00 45:29

Pricing in the AI Era: From Inputs to Outcomes, with Paid CEO Manny Medina

Hosts
Pat Grady Lauren Reeder
Guests
Manny Medina
Keywords
AI pricing models SaaS outcome-based pricing agent-based pricing unit economics
Former Outreach CEO Manny Medina discusses his new company Paid, which provides billing, pricing and margin management tools for AI companies. He explains why traditional SaaS pricing models don’t work for AI businesses, and breaks down emerging approaches like outcome-based and agent-based pricing. Manny shares why he believes focused AI applications targeting specific workflows will win over broad platforms, while emphasizing that AI companies need better tools to understand their unit economics and capture more value.

Hosted by Pat Grady and Lauren Reeder, Sequoia Capital

Mentioned in this episode:

CPQ: Configure, Price, Quote

Invent and Wander: Book by Jeff Bezos and Walter Isaacson

Foundations of Statistical Natural Language Processing: 1999 book by Chris Manning and Hinrich Schütze that Manny cites as a piece of AI content every AI founder should read. (still in print, companion site here)

The fox and the hedgehog: 

Quandri 

XBOW

HappyRobot 

Owl

Crosby
0:00 58:11

Arc Institute's Patrick Hsu on Building an App Store for Biology with AI

Hosts
Josephine Chen Pat Grady
Guests
Patrick Hsu
Keywords
AI biology Evo 2 genomic data evolutionary patterns disease mutations molecular design genome scale systems
Patrick Hsu, co-founder of Arc Institute, discusses the opportunities for AI in biology beyond just drug development, and how Evo 2, their new biology foundation model, is enabling a broad ecosystem of applications. Evo 2 was trained on a vast dataset of genomic data to learn evolutionary patterns that would have taken years to find; as a result, the model can be used for applications from identifying mutations that cause disease to designing new molecular and even genome scale biological systems.

Hosted by Josephine Chen and Pat Grady, Sequoia Capital

Mentioned in this episode:

Sequence modeling and design from molecular to genome scale with Evo: Public pre-print of original Evo paper

Genome modeling and design across all domains of life with Evo 2: Public pre-print of Evo 2 paper

ClinVar: NIH database of the genes that are known to cause disease, and mutations in those genes causally associated with disease state

Sequence Read Archive: Massive NIH database of gene sequencing data 

Machines of Loving Grace: Daria Amodei essay that Patrick cites on how AI could transform the world for the better

Arc Virtual Cell Atlas: Arc’s first step toward assembling, curating and generating large-scale cellular data from AI-driven biological discovery (among many other tools)

Protein Data Bank (PDB): a global archive of 3D structural information of biomolecules used by DeepMind to train AlphaFold

OpenAI Deep Research: The one AI app Patrick uses daily
0:00 1:26:18

Replit CEO Amjad Masad on 1 Billion Developers: A Better End State than AGI?

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David Cahn Sonya Huang
Guests
Amjad Masad
Keywords
1 Billion Developers Replit AI software creators developer population global economy management approach
Amjad Masad set out more than a decade ago to pursue the dream of unleashing 1B software creators around the world. With millions of Replit users pre-ChatGPT, that vision was already becoming a reality. Turbocharged by LLMs, the vision of enabling anyone to code—from 12-year-olds in India to knowledge workers in the U.S.—seems less and less radical. In this episode, Amjad explains how an explosion in the developer population could change the economy, society and more. He also discusses his early days programming in Jordan, his unique management approach and what AI will mean for the global economy.

Hosted by David Cahn and Sonya Huang, Sequoia Capital 

Mentioned in this episode:

On the Naturalness of Software: 2012 paper on applying NLP to code  Attention Is All You Need: Seminal 2017 paper on transformers I Am a Strange Loop: 2007 follow up to Douglas Hofstadter’s 1979 classic Gödel, Escher, Bach that explores how self-referential systems can describe minds On Lisp: Paul Graham’s 1993 book on the original programming language of AI

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