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The DarkHorse Podcast is hosted by Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying. Bret and Heather both have PhDs in biology, and they seek truth and explore a wide variety of topics with their evolutionary toolkit as society loses its footing. Tune in to infamous spreaders of "Covid Disinformation" Bret and Heather for a podcast—maybe you'll like what you see!
The DarkHorse Podcast is hosted by Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying. Bret and Heather both have PhDs in biology, and they seek truth and explore a wide variety of topics with their evolutionary toolkit as society loses its footing. Tune in to infamous spreaders of "Covid Disinformation" Bret and Heather for a podcast—maybe you'll like what you see!
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Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy AM, a renowned immunologist and researcher at the University of Newcastle, Australia, specializing in mucosal immunology.
Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy AM, a renowned immunologist and researcher at the University of Newcastle, Australia, specializing in mucosal immunology.
Dr. Lon Jones, DO, is a medical doctor and author known for his work on health and environmental factors affecting human well-being. He has written books such as 'Common Sense Medicine' and 'No More Allergies, Asthma or Sinus Infections'.
Dr. Lon Jones, DO, is a medical doctor and author known for his work on health and environmental factors affecting human well-being. He has written books such as 'Common Sense Medicine' and 'No More Allergies, Asthma or Sinus Infections'.
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Videos about adaptive evolution, good governance, the breakdown of civil discourse and subsequent mayhem at Evergreen and other college campuses, and about the emerging Coalition of the Reasonable.
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Babies by Design: The 280th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying
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Hosts of this podcast episode
Bret WeinsteinHeather Heying
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Guests of this podcast episode
Bret WeinsteinHeather Heying
Keywords
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hummingbirdsbaby makinglongevity hackingJeffrey Epsteinriots in LAlong-lived babiesevolutionary lens
Today we discuss hummingbirds, baby making, longevity hacking, and Jeffrey Epstein, before finishing up with a short discussion of the riots in LA. A new company is promising future parents that they will be able to create long-lived babieswhat could go wrong? Also, how likely are they to be able to make good on their promises? We discuss, as always, with an evolutionary lens. Also: what a great business model! And: it is easier to fix something that is broken than it is to improve something that works. Then: Jeffrey Epstein apparently did kill himself after all. Or did he?
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Wall Street Journal: Longevity Is Now a Factor When Picking an Embryo for IVF:
Today we discuss hummingbirds, baby making, longevity hacking, and Jeffrey Epstein, before finishing up with a short discussion of the riots in LA. A new company is promising future parents that they will be able to create long-lived babieswhat could go wrong? Also, how likely are they to be able to make good on their promises? We discuss, as always, with an evolutionary lens. Also: what a great business model! And: it is easier to fix something that is broken than it is to improve something that works. Then: Jeffrey Epstein apparently did kill himself after all. Or did he?
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Sundays: Dog food so tasty and healthy, even husbands swear by it. Go to http://www.sundaysfordogs.com/DARKHORSE to receive 35% off your first order.
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Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com
Heathers newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com
Our book, A Hunter-Gatherers Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned)
Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org
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Mentioned in this episode:
Wall Street Journal: Longevity Is Now a Factor When Picking an Embryo for IVF:
Pharma’s New Game: The 279th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying
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Hosts of this podcast episode
Bret WeinsteinHeather Heying
Guests
Guests of this podcast episode
Imane KhelifGlenn GreenwaldRichard Dawkins
Keywords
Keywords of this podcast episode
Covid DisinformationmRNA vaccinemucosal immunityIgG4auto-immunitylong-term consequencesstatistical trickshomeopathyDisorder of Sexual DevelopmentOlympic goldGlenn GreenwaldRichard Dawkins
Many topics today! First: FDA tentatively approves Moderna’s new mRNA shot for Covid. What? And also why? Bret has six main points, which include discussion of mucosal immunity, IgG4, auto-immunity, long-term consequences, statistical tricks, and homeopathy. Then: how do we know what is true, and how can we avoid jumping to conclusions when triggered by language or circumstances that seem familiar and frustrating?...As explored through the story of Algerian boxer Imane Khelif, who has a Disorder of Sexual Development, won Olympic gold for beating women, but is definitely male. Finally: brief discussions of Glenn Greenwald, and Richard Dawkins. No, Dawkins, religion is not a mental infection.
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Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com
Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com
Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned)
Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org
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Mentioned in this episode:
Moderna press release: https://investors.modernatx.com/news/news-details/2025/Moderna-Receives-U-S--FDA-Approval-for-COVID-19-Vaccine-mNEXSPIKE/default.aspx
Kennedy on FDA and Moderna shot: https://x.com/seckennedy/status/1930012848056365294
Mary Talley Bowden MD on the shots: https://x.com/mdbreathe/status/1927899248575545501
Heather on Imane Khelif: https://x.com/HeatherEHeying/status/1929920193771516423
Greenwald on the situation: https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1928440222771015912
Dawkins on religion: https://x.com/richarddawkins/status/1930184916190257320
Many topics today! First: FDA tentatively approves Moderna’s new mRNA shot for Covid. What? And also why? Bret has six main points, which include discussion of mucosal immunity, IgG4, auto-immunity, long-term consequences, statistical tricks, and homeopathy. Then: how do we know what is true, and how can we avoid jumping to conclusions when triggered by language or circumstances that seem familiar and frustrating?...As explored through the story of Algerian boxer Imane Khelif, who has a Disorder of Sexual Development, won Olympic gold for beating women, but is definitely male. Finally: brief discussions of Glenn Greenwald, and Richard Dawkins. No, Dawkins, religion is not a mental infection.
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Our sponsors:
CrowdHealth: Pay for healthcare with crowdfunding instead of insurance. It’s way better. Use code DarkHorse at http://JoinCrowdHealth.com to get 1st 3 months for $99/month.
ARMRA Colostrum is an ancient bioactive whole food that can strengthen your immune system. Go to http://www.tryarmra.com/DARKHORSE to get 15% off your first order.
Helix: Excellent, sleep-enhancing, American-made mattresses. Go to www.HelixSleep.com/DarkHorse for 20% Off sitewide.
*****
Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com
Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com
Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned)
Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org
*****
Mentioned in this episode:
Moderna press release: https://investors.modernatx.com/news/news-details/2025/Moderna-Receives-U-S--FDA-Approval-for-COVID-19-Vaccine-mNEXSPIKE/default.aspx
Kennedy on FDA and Moderna shot: https://x.com/seckennedy/status/1930012848056365294
Mary Talley Bowden MD on the shots: https://x.com/mdbreathe/status/1927899248575545501
Heather on Imane Khelif: https://x.com/HeatherEHeying/status/1929920193771516423
Greenwald on the situation: https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1928440222771015912
Dawkins on religion: https://x.com/richarddawkins/status/1930184916190257320
Wisdom of the Ancients: Dr. Robert Clancy on DarkHorse
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Hosts of this podcast episode
Bret WeinsteinHeather Heying
Guests
Guests of this podcast episode
Dr. Robert Clancy
Keywords
Keywords of this podcast episode
mucosal immunologyDr. Robert ClancyimmunologyCOVID disinformationevolutionary toolkit
Bret Weinstein speaks with Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy AM on the subject of mucosal immunology.
Find Dr. Clancy at The University of New Castle Australia: https://www.newcastle.edu.au/profile/robert-clancy
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Bret Weinstein speaks with Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy AM on the subject of mucosal immunology.
Find Dr. Clancy at The University of New Castle Australia: https://www.newcastle.edu.au/profile/robert-clancy
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Sundays: Dog food so tasty and healthy, even husbands swear by it. Go to http://www.sundaysfordogs.com/DARKHORSE to receive 35% off your first order.
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Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.
The Real Matrix: The 278th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying
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Hosts of this podcast episode
Bret WeinsteinHeather Heying
Guests
Guests of this podcast episode
Bret WeinsteinHeather Heying
Keywords
Keywords of this podcast episode
Covid Disinformationimmunityvaccinestransmissionecological borderspathogensbotfly ivermectinmonkeystranshumanismfuture of humanityLLMs
We begin with the HHS announcement that Covid shots will no longer be recommended to healthy children and pregnant women. What does healthy mean? And what are the conditions that provide release from liability for vaccine makers? Then, a discussion of kinds of immunity, and how vaccines are best delivered depending on how disease is transmitted. We compare what was claimed about the shots (they stop transmission!), and what Pfizer later admitted (that they did not know if the shots stopped transmission—but they had to move at the “speed of science”!). Also, a discussion of how to kill your pathogens by crossing ecological borders…and how to get rid of a botfly with a steak, or with ivermectin. Then: why are young male capuchin monkeys abducting baby howler monkeys on an island off the coast of Panama? Finally: a discussion of transhumanism, our future, our embodied selves, how we live on, what we owe our children, what our beloved dead would make of now, and how we, and the LLMs, could know.
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Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com
Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com
Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned)
Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org
***** Mentioned in this episode:
Kennedy, Bhattacharya and Makary on changing vax recommendations: https://x.com/SecKennedy/status/1927368440811008138
Dr. Lon Jones on mucosal immunity (on DHP): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w99CQVaOK0E
Rob Roos forcing truth from Pfizer: https://x.com/Rob_Roos/status/1579759795225198593
Heather on killing your pathogens: https://open.substack.com/pub/naturalselections/p/kill-your-pathogens
Forrest Maready on polio (on DHP): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7wYUnQUESU
Goldsborough et al 2025. Rise and spread of a social tradition of interspecies abduction. Current Biology 35(10): R375-R376: https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(25)00372-0
Bret on transhumanism: https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/1927043640813138102
We begin with the HHS announcement that Covid shots will no longer be recommended to healthy children and pregnant women. What does healthy mean? And what are the conditions that provide release from liability for vaccine makers? Then, a discussion of kinds of immunity, and how vaccines are best delivered depending on how disease is transmitted. We compare what was claimed about the shots (they stop transmission!), and what Pfizer later admitted (that they did not know if the shots stopped transmission—but they had to move at the “speed of science”!). Also, a discussion of how to kill your pathogens by crossing ecological borders…and how to get rid of a botfly with a steak, or with ivermectin. Then: why are young male capuchin monkeys abducting baby howler monkeys on an island off the coast of Panama? Finally: a discussion of transhumanism, our future, our embodied selves, how we live on, what we owe our children, what our beloved dead would make of now, and how we, and the LLMs, could know.
*****
Our sponsors:
Brain.fm: intense music that boosts productivity. Unlock your brain’s full potential free for 30 days by going to http://brain.fm/DARKHORSE
Pique’s Nandaka: delicious mushroom, tea, and chocolate drink that provides all day energy. Get 20% off plus free frother+beaker at http://www.Piquelife.com/DARKHORSE
Jolie: Beautiful showerheads that filter out the garbage without reducing water pressure. Go to http://jolieskinco.com/DarkHorse to get free shipping; free returns within 60 days.
*****
Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com
Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com
Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned)
Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org
***** Mentioned in this episode:
Kennedy, Bhattacharya and Makary on changing vax recommendations: https://x.com/SecKennedy/status/1927368440811008138
Dr. Lon Jones on mucosal immunity (on DHP): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w99CQVaOK0E
Rob Roos forcing truth from Pfizer: https://x.com/Rob_Roos/status/1579759795225198593
Heather on killing your pathogens: https://open.substack.com/pub/naturalselections/p/kill-your-pathogens
Forrest Maready on polio (on DHP): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7wYUnQUESU
Goldsborough et al 2025. Rise and spread of a social tradition of interspecies abduction. Current Biology 35(10): R375-R376: https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(25)00372-0
Bret on transhumanism: https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/1927043640813138102
Bret speaks with Dr. Lon Jones, DO on the subject of the mismatch between modern humans and the environment they live in.
Find Dr. Lon Jones, DO at https://commonsensemedicine.org
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Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com
Check out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://www.darkhorsestore.org
Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.
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Mentioned in this episode: - Common Sense Medicine: Making America Healthy Again by Dr. Lon Jones, DO https://amzn.to/4kd4mka (commission earned) - No More Allergies, Asthma or Sinus Infections: The Revolutionary Approach by Dr. Lon Jones, DO https://amzn.to/4dKaa2o (commission earned) - George Williams Paper: Pleiotropy, Natural Selection, and the Evolution of Senescence https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1558-5646.1957.tb02911.x - Patient education: Ear infections (otitis media) in children (Beyond the Basics) https://www.uptodate.com/contents/ear-infections-otitis-media-in-children-beyond-the-basics/print - Indirect health effects of relative humidity in indoor environments https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1474709/ - Turku sugar studies V: Final report on the effect of sucrose, fructose and xylitol diets on the caries incidence in man https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/00016357608997711 - Paul W. Ewald: Evolution of Disease https://amzn.to/4dzIzRj (commission earned) - Commonsense Medicine: Healing from the Inside Out and Stopping the Next Pandemic https://amzn.to/4kE9kX7 (commission earned) - How Bacteria Stick https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-bacteria-stick
Bret speaks with Dr. Lon Jones, DO on the subject of the mismatch between modern humans and the environment they live in.
Find Dr. Lon Jones, DO at https://commonsensemedicine.org
*****
Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com
Check out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://www.darkhorsestore.org
Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.
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Mentioned in this episode: - Common Sense Medicine: Making America Healthy Again by Dr. Lon Jones, DO https://amzn.to/4kd4mka (commission earned) - No More Allergies, Asthma or Sinus Infections: The Revolutionary Approach by Dr. Lon Jones, DO https://amzn.to/4dKaa2o (commission earned) - George Williams Paper: Pleiotropy, Natural Selection, and the Evolution of Senescence https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1558-5646.1957.tb02911.x - Patient education: Ear infections (otitis media) in children (Beyond the Basics) https://www.uptodate.com/contents/ear-infections-otitis-media-in-children-beyond-the-basics/print - Indirect health effects of relative humidity in indoor environments https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1474709/ - Turku sugar studies V: Final report on the effect of sucrose, fructose and xylitol diets on the caries incidence in man https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/00016357608997711 - Paul W. Ewald: Evolution of Disease https://amzn.to/4dzIzRj (commission earned) - Commonsense Medicine: Healing from the Inside Out and Stopping the Next Pandemic https://amzn.to/4kE9kX7 (commission earned) - How Bacteria Stick https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-bacteria-stick
