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A show where curiosity and the natural world collide. We explore science, energy, environmentalism, and reflections on how we think about and depict nature, and always leave time for plenty of goofing off.

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Here's a quick summary of the last 5 episodes on Outside/In.

Hosts

Daniel Ackerman Felix Poon Justine Paradis

Previous Guests

Curt La Bombard
Curt La Bombard is a scientist and researcher known for his work in glaciology and climate science. He has contributed to various studies on ice cores and their implications for understanding past climate conditions.
Julie Brigham-Grette
Julie Brigham-Grette is a prominent geologist and climate scientist specializing in paleoclimatology. She has conducted extensive research on ice cores and has been involved in numerous projects related to climate change and its historical impacts.
Herb Ueda Jr.
Herb Ueda Jr. is the son of engineer Herb Ueda Sr., who was instrumental in the drilling of the first complete ice core in Greenland. He has followed in his father's footsteps in the field of engineering and has a deep interest in the history of climate science.
Don Garfield
Don Garfield is a researcher and expert in environmental science, with a focus on the effects of climate change. He has worked on various projects related to ice core analysis and its significance in understanding climate patterns.
Aleqa Hammond
Aleqa Hammond is a climate advocate and former member of the Greenland Parliament. She has been involved in discussions about climate policy and the impact of climate change on Greenland and the Arctic region.
Nicole Cardoza
Nicole Cardoza is a magician and storyteller known for her engaging performances that blend magic with narrative. She has a background in entertainment and has performed for various audiences, showcasing her unique style and creativity.
Gwyne Henke
Gwyne Henke is a poet and writer who has a particular interest in childhood themes, including her experiences with pets. Her work often reflects on the intersection of personal history and broader cultural narratives.
Suzanne Loui
Suzanne Loui is an artist and performer who explores themes of magic and illusion in her work. She has contributed to various projects that examine the relationship between performance and storytelling.
Sally Master
Sally Master is a researcher and writer with a focus on the history of magic and its cultural implications. She has published works that delve into the darker aspects of entertainment and its societal impact.
Ana DiMaria
Ana DiMaria is a creative professional with a background in storytelling and performance. She has worked on various projects that highlight the intersection of art and social commentary.
Tanya Singer
Tanya Singer is a journalist and researcher known for her investigative work on historical topics, including the history of Project Angora. Her writing often addresses complex social issues and their historical roots.
Meg Crane
Meg Crane is a writer and researcher who has explored themes of motherhood and reproductive health. She is known for her contributions to discussions on design and its impact on human experiences.
Dr. Theresa MacPhail
Dr. Theresa MacPhail is an author and expert in the field of allergies and their impact on human health. She is known for her book 'Allergic: Our Irritated Bodies in a Changing World', which explores the increasing prevalence of allergies and the various factors contributing to this phenomenon. Dr. MacPhail's work combines scientific research with personal narratives to shed light on the complexities of allergic reactions and their implications for society.
Beni Osei Duker
Beni Osei Duker is a guest featured in the episode discussing allergies. While specific details about his background are not provided, he contributes to the conversation around the topic of allergies and shares his insights and experiences.
Dwayne Smith
Dwayne Smith is a guest in the episode who adds to the discussion on allergies. His specific background and expertise are not detailed, but he participates in the exploration of allergy-related topics.
Lily Ko
Lily Ko is another guest featured in the episode, contributing to the dialogue on allergies. Further information about her professional background is not provided, but she is part of the panel discussing various aspects of allergies.
Sakthi Vaiyapuri
Sakthi Vaiyapuri is a researcher and advocate known for his work in community awareness programs in India, particularly focusing on the socioeconomic impacts of snakebites and venom research in rural populations in Tamil Nadu. His research aims to address the high-priority neglected tropical disease of snake envenoming and improve health outcomes in affected communities.
Hussein Elgridly
Hussein Elgridly is a researcher and expert in environmental science, focusing on the impact of pollutants and toxins in ecosystems. He has contributed to various studies on the effects of environmental hazards on public health.
Deborah Blum
Deborah Blum is a Pulitzer Prize-winning science journalist and author known for her work on the intersection of science and society. She has written extensively about toxicology and environmental issues, and is the director of the Knight Science Journalism program at MIT.
Andy Robinson
Andy Robinson is an environmental scientist and educator with a focus on sustainable practices and ecological conservation. He has worked on numerous projects aimed at reducing environmental toxins and promoting public awareness of ecological issues.
Angela Mech
Angela Mech is a biologist and researcher specializing in invasive species and their impact on native ecosystems. She has published research on the management of invasive species and their ecological consequences.
Kyle Lombard
Kyle Lombard is a toxicologist with expertise in the effects of chemical exposure on human health. He has conducted research on various environmental toxins and their implications for public health and safety.
Heejung Jung
Heejung Jung is an environmental health researcher focusing on the effects of air pollution and toxic substances on human health. She has been involved in studies assessing the risks associated with airborne pollutants.

Topics Discussed

Cold War ice core Greenland climate science military base Camp Century magic rabbit disappearing pets occult eugenics animal sacrifice allergies Hippocrates Dr. Theresa MacPhail Beni Osei Duker Dwayne Smith Lily Ko Allergic: Our Irritated Bodies in a Changing World venom snakebite envenoming treatments diabetes cancer erectile dysfunction Ozempic healing poison poisonous apple green potatoes car tires toxic airborne pollution invasive browntail moths hydroxyapatite fluoride

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0:00 32:43

The Cold War Ice Core of Greenland

Hosts
Daniel Ackerman
Guests
Curt La Bombard Julie Brigham-Grette Herb Ueda Jr. Don Garfield Aleqa Hammond
Keywords
Cold War ice core Greenland climate science military base Camp Century

In the late 1950s, engineer Herb Ueda Sr. traveled to a remote Arctic military base. His mission? To drill through nearly a mile of ice, and extract the worlds first complete ice core.

To finish the job, he and his team would endure sub-zero weather, toxic chemicals, and life inside a military base which was slowly being crushed by the glacier from which it was carved.

In this episode (first released in 2023) Daniel Ackerman takes us inside Camp Century, and explains how a foundational moment in climate science was inextricably linked with the United State's military interest in Greenland.

Featuring Curt La Bombard, Julie Brigham-Grette, Herb Ueda Jr., Don Garfield, and Aleqa Hammond.

Produced by Daniel Ackerman. For a full list of credits and transcript, go to outsidinradio.org.

0:00 46:02

Dark Magic Rabbit

Guests
Nicole Cardoza Gwyne Henke Suzanne Loui Sally Master Ana DiMaria Tanya Singer Meg Crane
Keywords
magic rabbit disappearing pets occult eugenics animal sacrifice

A magician spins a black top hat to show their audience it’s empty. Then, with the wave of a wand and a few magic words, PRESTO: a snow white rabbit pokes its ears over the brim. 

Compared to sawing a person in half, pulling a rabbit out of a hat is a joyful bit of magic that entertainers have been doing for more than 200 years. But after the applause dies down, one is left wondering: where did the rabbit come from? And where did it go

Today, in honor of the Easter Bunny (who doesn’t actually appear in this episode), we’re pulling a handful of rabbit stories out of our proverbial hat. But be warned: these are dark tales of disappearing pets, occult eugenicists, and animal sacrifice. The secrets behind some magic tricks are more shocking than others. 

Featuring Nicole Cardoza, Gwyne Henke, Suzanne Loui, Sally Master, Ana DiMaria, Tanya Singer, and Meg Crane. 

Produced by Nate Hegyi, Marina Henke, Kate Dario, and Justine Paradis. For full credits, photos, and transcript, visit outsideinradio.org.

 

SUPPORT

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LINKS

Join us for NHPR’s 3rd Annual Climate Summit! The theme is “Healthy Connections,” and we’ve got a great lineup of speakers and breakout sessions PLUS a trivia night. And the best part? It’s all FREE. Learn more and register here

Check out this video of magician and storyteller Nicole Cardoza performing for a group in Chicago in 2024. 

You can check out Gwyne Henke’s childhood rabbit poetry on our website

Tanya Singer reported on the history of Project Angora for Tablet. You can also learn more about Helena Weinrauch and her blue sweater here

Read more about the history of pregnancy testing in this paper on Egyptian grain method, rabbit tests, and more, and in A Woman’s Right to Know by Jesse Olszynko-Gryn, available as a free ebook from MIT Press.

The story of Meg Crane’s Predictor test can also be found in the excellent Designing Motherhood, a book and exhibit on human reproduction through the lens of design.

Pagan Kennedy’s New York Times article, which prompted Meg Crane to start sharing her story—and Pagan’s follow-up, which does include Meg.

0:00 26:12

The Bee’s Sneeze: Why allergies are getting worse

Hosts
Felix Poon
Guests
Dr. Theresa MacPhail Beni Osei Duker Dwayne Smith Lily Ko
Keywords
allergies Hippocrates Dr. Theresa MacPhail Beni Osei Duker Dwayne Smith Lily Ko Allergic: Our Irritated Bodies in a Changing World

Allergies have been documented in historical records dating as far back as 2,400 years ago, when Hippocrates wrote about “hostile humors” in some people who suffered badly after eating cheese. But why do we experience them to begin with? What even is an allergy? Are allergies on the rise? And why are some mere nuisances, while others are deadly?

This episode is a roundup of allergy stories—from the mundane to the frightful—and a round up of allergy questions we’re asking Dr. Theresa MacPhail, author of Allergic: Our Irritated Bodies in a Changing World, to answer for us.

Featuring Beni Osei Duker, Theresa MacPhail, Dwayne Smith, and Lily Ko.

Produced by Felix Poon. For a transcript and full list of credits, go to outsideinradio.org.

 

SUPPORT

Outside/In is made possible with listener support. Click here to become a sustaining member of Outside/In

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LINKS

Check out Theresa MacPhail’s book, Allergic: Our Irritated Bodies in a Changing World.

Read up on the different hypotheses on why we get allergies in the first place:

Learn about the history of the EpiPen.

0:00 26:53

Venom and the cure

Hosts
Justine Paradis
Guests
Sakthi Vaiyapuri
Keywords
venom snakebite envenoming treatments diabetes cancer erectile dysfunction Ozempic healing poison allergies

Venom is full of dualities. According to the UN’s World Health Organization, snakebite envenoming causes somewhere between 81,000 and 138,000 deaths per year, and even that is likely an undercount. Yet research into venom has yielded treatments for diabetes, cancer, erectile dysfunction, and even the celebrity favorite diabetes slash diet drug, Ozempic. 

In this episode, we explore the world of venom, where fear and fascination go hand-in-hand, and the potential for healing comes with deadly stakes. 

This is part II of our “Things That Can Kill You” miniseries, which also explores poison and allergies.

Featuring Sakthi Vaiyapuri. Thanks to Iva Tatić for her question.

Produced by Justine Paradis. For full credits and transcript, visit outsideinradio.org.

 

SUPPORT

To share your questions and feedback with Outside/In, call the show’s hotline and leave us a voicemail. The number is 1-844-GO-OTTER. No question is too serious or too silly.

Outside/In is made possible with listener support. Click here to become a sustaining member of Outside/In

Follow Outside/In on Instagram, BlueSky, Tiktok, or join our private discussion group on Facebook.

 

LINKS

Here’s more on Sakthi Vaiyapuri’s community awareness programs in India and his team’s research on the socioeconomic impacts on rural populations in Tamil Nadu

The UN’s World Health Organization’s fact sheet on snake envenoming as a high-priority neglected tropical disease

A great breakdown on why snakebite deaths are undercounted and the problem of missing data, written by global health researcher Saloni Dattani on Substack

A Nature article on potential advances in antivenom

Check out this Science Friday film on the cool research on cone snails and the non-opoiod painkillers derived from their venom. 

More on Ozempic and lots of other innovations with roots in venom research (New York Times) 

0:00 30:50

Tasting the forbidden fruit

Guests
Hussein Elgridly Deborah Blum Andy Robinson Angela Mech Kyle Lombard Heejung Jung
Keywords
poisonous apple green potatoes car tires venom allergies toxic airborne pollution invasive browntail moths hydroxyapatite fluoride

A few months ago we got an email from a listener who tried a bit of a very poisonous apple and lived to tell the tale. Ultimately, he was fine, but the incident left him full of questions. 

We figured, why not run with that curiosity? We put a call out for all of your poison related queries and you delivered: How much should you worry about those green potatoes in your pantry? Could our car tires be poisoning the environment? It’s another Outside/Inbox roundup on the show this week. Buckle up. 

This is the first part of a “Things That Can Kill You” mini-series. Up next we tackle venom and allergies.

Featuring Hussein Elgridly, Deborah Blum, Andy Robinson, Angela Mech, Kyle Lombard and Heejung Jung.

  1. Are green potatoes toxic?
  2. Are invasive browntail moths expanding their range?
  3. Is hydroxyapatite an effective substitute for fluoride?
  4. How much toxic airborne pollution is contributed by vehicle tires?

For our next Outside/Inbox roundup, we’re looking for questions about sound! Dream big here: we’re talking animal sounds, traffic noise, the sounds of space… Send us your questions by recording yourself on a voice memo, and emailing that to us at [email protected].  Or you can call our hotline: 844-GO-OTTER.

For full credits and transcript, visit outsideinradio.org

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