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Media and tech aren’t just intersecting — they’re fully intertwined. And to understand how those worlds work, and what they mean for you, veteran journalist Peter Kafka talks to industry leaders, upstarts and observers - and gets them to spell it out in plain, BS-free English. Part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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David Baszucki
David Baszucki is the co-founder and CEO of Roblox Corporation, a platform that allows users to create and play games created by other users. Under his leadership, Roblox has grown to become a significant player in the gaming industry, boasting a user base of over 85 million, primarily consisting of children. Baszucki has a background in engineering and entrepreneurship, having previously co-founded Knowledge Revolution, a software company that developed educational software. His vision for Roblox includes expanding its reach within the gaming market and enhancing user engagement through innovative, user-generated content.
Jake Sherman
Jake Sherman is a co-founder and the CEO of Punchbowl News, a news startup that focuses on providing in-depth coverage of Congress and political news. With a background in journalism, Sherman has previously worked for Politico, where he gained significant experience in political reporting. Under his leadership, Punchbowl News has become known for its insider perspective on legislative developments and has attracted a dedicated subscriber base.
AG Sulzberger
Arthur Gregg Sulzberger, commonly known as AG Sulzberger, is an American newspaper publisher and the chairman of The New York Times Company. He became the publisher of The New York Times in January 2018, succeeding his father, Arthur Ochs Sulzberger Jr. Under his leadership, the Times has focused on digital subscriptions and innovative journalism, navigating challenges in the media landscape, including the rise of social media and the impact of technology on news consumption. Sulzberger has been vocal about issues such as press freedom, the role of journalism in democracy, and the challenges posed by misinformation.
Sara Fischer
Sara Fischer is a prominent media correspondent based in Washington, D.C. She covers the intersection of media, politics, and technology, providing insights into how these sectors influence each other. With a background in journalism, Fischer has reported on major media trends and the impact of political decisions on the media landscape. She is known for her analytical approach and has contributed to various discussions on the future of journalism in the digital age.
John Ourand
John Ourand is a seasoned sports business reporter known for his in-depth analysis and coverage of the sports media landscape. He has worked for various prominent publications and is currently associated with Puck, where he continues to explore the intersections of sports, media, and business. Ourand's expertise includes the impact of sports on television, the evolution of sports broadcasting, and the implications of emerging trends such as college athletes being compensated for their participation in sports.

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Roblox David Baszucki gaming market user generated games audience engagement media Punchbowl News Congress business update insider news New York Times AG Sulzberger Trump OpenAI economy business model subscribers copyright infringement press crackdown opinion section economic turmoil Trump 2.0 journalists White House lawsuits regulators sports TV business Big Sports Big TV college sports local sports networks sports betting media

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Here's the recent few episodes on Channels with Peter Kafka.

0:00 48:08

Roblox CEO David Baszucki knows what your kids are doing.

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Peter Kafka
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David Baszucki
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Roblox David Baszucki gaming market user generated games audience engagement
Every day some 85 million people - most of them kids - show up to play, chat and spend money on Roblox. Thats a massive audience just about any tech or media company would like to have. But David Baszucki wants more: He thinks his platform can eventually command 10% of the worldwide gaming market.

I spent time talking to Baszucki about those ambitions and what has to happen to make it a reality. But I also wanted to spend time getting him to explain what exactly Roblox is, and why its low-fi, user generated games resonate with his audience. Its an unlikely special sauce that has made the company, which spent years flying under the radar, worth some $40 billion today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
0:00 44:19

How to make money in Washington, with Punchbowl’s Jake Sherman

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Peter Kafka
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Jake Sherman
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media Punchbowl News Congress business update insider news
Some people don’t want to pay for media. But lots of people are paying Jake Sherman and his team at Punchbowl News: The 4-year-old startup is thriving by providing super-insidery news and data about what’s happening in Congress. I chatted with Sherman because I wanted to get an update on his business (he says he’s not going to sell it anytime soon, despite lots of speculation to the contrary).

I also had a basic, outside the Beltway question: In a world where Congress spends a lot of time not passing bills, what exactly does Punchbowl cover? He was happy to spell it all out for me. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
0:00 1:09:07

NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAi and the economy

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Peter Kafka
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AG Sulzberger
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New York Times AG Sulzberger Trump OpenAI economy business model subscribers copyright infringement press crackdown opinion section economic turmoil
The New York Times faces the same challenges every other news organization faces in 2025.

But it’s also in way better shape to take those challenges on: Thanks to a business model built on 11 million subscribers, it’s not nearly so worried about things like the fluctuations of the ad business, or changes in Google’s algorithm.

That comparative strength also gives NYT publisher AG Sulzberger the ability to do things his peers can’t or won’t do: Like suing OpenAI for copyright infringement, instead of taking a cash settlement. Or calling out the likelihood of a press crackdown if Donald Trump was re-elected - a call he made in September that looks very prescient today.

We talk through both of those issues in this conversation, and a bunch more - like the role of the NYT opinion section, how willing the Times is to experiment, and how the paper thinks about the economic turmoil we now find ourselves in. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
0:00 50:29

Trump vs The Media, Round 2, with Sara Fischer

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Peter Kafka
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Sara Fischer
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Trump 2.0 media journalists White House lawsuits regulators
The Trump 2.0 era is less than three months old. But it’s already creating havoc for journalists and the companies they work for.

In Washington, Trump and his team are demoting traditional media - or kicking them out of the White House entirely. In corporate boardrooms, he is forcing media owners to settle lawsuits they would normally fight, and to submit to investigations from newly aggressive regulators. Again: We’re just at the beginning of this new era. What’s coming down the pike? I asked Sara Fischer, the excellent and Washington-wired media correspondent, to walk me through it Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
0:00 47:58

How long can sports keep TV alive?

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Peter Kafka
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John Ourand
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sports TV business Big Sports Big TV college sports local sports networks sports betting media
Call it symbiosis. Call it co-dependency. However you want to characterize it, there’s zero debate that Big TV and Big Sports are deeply intertwined. So if the TV business is shrinking, what happens to sports?

That’s the main question I had for John Ourand, the longtime sports business reporter who’s now at Puck. But I had lots of related ones, like: Now that (some) college students are getting paid to play sports, how does that affect the TV product itself? What’s happening to the local sports networks that bring you baseball, basketball and hockey? And is the sports betting media boom drying up? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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4.4 rating 643 reviews

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4.4 ratings 541 reviews

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4.4 ratings 42 reviews

UK

4.7 ratings 25 reviews

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