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Welcome to Legal Nurse Podcast. I am Pat Iyer MSN RN LNCC. I am so pleased you decided to listen in. Take a journey of motivation, growth and transformation of your legal nurse consulting practice by learning from successful entrepreneurs. Boost your skills by getting valuable tips from experts from within and outside of legal nurse consulting. In this show I provide two types of podcasts. The first is an interview with an expert who reveals key concepts you may apply to your legal nurse consulting practice. The experts answer probing questions to give you practical tips you can immediately apply. In the second type of podcast, I offer my comments, experience, and lessons learned the hard way to expand on what the interview covered. Here’s what you can expect to get from listening to these programs: tips and strategies, encouragement, sound advice, and more. My podcasts cover what I consider to the 5 pillars of legal nurse consulting. • First you need expertise in your medical knowledge so that you can help clients. • Second, you need to have marketing skills and use strategies that will bring you clients. • Third, you need to follow sound financial practices to collect and wisely spend your dollars. • Fourth, you need to know how to work with clients to strengthen relationships. • Lastly, you need to know how to manage a business. I’ll summarize: The 5 pillars are expertise, marketing, finances, clients and business management. You may listen to Legal Nurse Podcasts on my website at legalnursepodcasts.com or on Itunes. I know some people prefer to listen to information and some prefer to read.If you like to read or to be able to refer again what you’ve just heard, you may request the transcripts of the programs. Get the transcripts on legalnursepodcasts.com. Here’s who I am. I started as an LNC in 1987 when I got my first expert witness case. I spent about 20 years as a medical surgical nursing expert witness testifying in nursing malpractice cases. Also, I spent over 25 years summarizing medical records to explain the facts to juries. In 1989 I started an independent legal nurse consultant business and built it up to become a large and successful business. I sold it in 2015. Along the way I committed 5 years of my life to the American Association of Legal Nurse Consultants, including a year as president. Since I sold my business, I have been writing, editing books, presenting webinars and coaching LNCs. My coaching site is LNCAcademy.com. I love to write, as you will discover when you go to legalnursebusiness.com, my website for LNCs. Many LNCs know me as the chief editor of the second edition of the Legal Nurse Consulting Principles and Practices. It is one of my hundreds of publications, including books, chapters, articles, case studies and online courses. I bring all of this expertise to you. I’d love to hear your thoughts about this show. Let me know what YOU are interested in hearing about. Add your comments to the episode show notes on legalnursepodcasts.com. Thank you for joining us.

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Recent Hosts, Guests & Topics

Here's a quick summary of the last 5 episodes on Legal Nurse Podcast.

Hosts

Pat Iyer Jen Kane Tim Kane

Previous Guests

Dr. Joshua Willis
Dr. Joshua Willis is a cardiologist who completed a cardiology fellowship at the Cleveland Clinic Foundation from 2007 to 2010, followed by an Interventional Cardiology fellowship at the University of Florida from 2010 to 2011. In 2011, he began working in a private cardiology practice in Chattanooga, Tennessee, where he balances his time between hospital-based procedures, including cardiac catheterizations and percutaneous coronary interventions, and outpatient clinic duties. He sees approximately 24-26 patients per full clinic day and is responsible for providing Interventional and General Cardiology coverage, with a total of 35-40 outpatient visits per week.
Pat Iyer
Pat Iyer is a seasoned legal nurse consultant and business coach with over 30 years of experience in the field. She is renowned for her expertise in financial strategy and collection, having successfully run a legal nurse consulting firm that achieved annual sales exceeding $1 million for the last five years of its operation. Pat is dedicated to helping new legal nurse consultants navigate the complexities of the industry and avoid common pitfalls.
Barbara Levin
Barbara Levin is an experienced Legal Nurse Consultant (LNC) and expert witness. She has a strong background in legal nurse consulting, providing valuable insights and expertise in the field. Barbara has worked with various attorneys, helping them understand the complexities of medical cases and the importance of accurate medical documentation. Her experience as an expert witness has further solidified her reputation in the legal community, making her a sought-after consultant for legal cases involving medical issues.
Abby Rogers
Abby Rogers is a dedicated NICU nurse with years of experience in the field. She founded Birth Injury Nurses to bridge the gap between medical expertise and legal insights. Abby began her journey in legal nursing three years ago, starting as a subcontractor, which provided her with the foundational experience to pursue an independent career. She currently balances her work between bedside nursing and legal nurse consulting (LNC). Abby has studied LinkedIn in detail and utilizes it as a major marketing tool, posting regularly and engaging with others in the community. She emphasizes the importance of responding to posts and shares her insights on how to effectively use social media for professional growth.

Topics Discussed

cardiac stents heart disease patient care bare metal stents drug-eluting stents post-stent medications radial approach femoral approach shared governance coronary artery bypass surgery legal nurse consulting attorneys client acquisition marketing strategies specialization networking business mindset common mistakes new LNCs niche pricing services building connections business skills marketing skills Legal Nurse Consultant fees billing strategies hourly rates flat fees retainers fee agreements payment business clarity LinkedIn legal nursing subcontracting marketing artificial intelligence consulting skills
Episodes

Here's the recent few episodes on Legal Nurse Podcast.

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640 – Heart Procedures: Cardiac Stents and Beyond – Dr. Joshua Willis

Hosts
Pat Iyer
Guests
Dr. Joshua Willis
Keywords
cardiac stents heart disease patient care bare metal stents drug-eluting stents post-stent medications radial approach femoral approach shared governance coronary artery bypass surgery
In today's episode of the Legal Nurse Podcast, we delve into the life-saving world of cardiac stents with expert cardiologist Joshua Willis. Discover the evolution of stents, from their inception to their transformative role in treating heart disease. Joshua shares insights into the critical procedures that follow stent insertion and navigates the complexities of balancing patient care with available resources.



You’ll discover how these medical advancements have changed lives and the collaborative decision-making involved in this vital field. Tune in and explore the fascinating journey of cardiac care!







Heart Procedures: Cardiac Stents and Beyond Addresses these Questions:



Join us for this episode, during which we discuss these questions.



How did the concept of cardiac stents develop, and who was a key figure in their development?



What are the differences between bare metal stents and drug-eluting stents, and how do they function in preventing coronary artery blockages?



What are the typical medications used post-stent insertion to prevent clot formation, and why are they crucial?



How does the radial approach differ from the femoral approach in cardiac procedures, and why has it become more favored?



What role does shared governance play in deciding between stent insertion and coronary artery bypass surgery for a patient?







Listen to our podcasts or watch them using our app, Expert.edu, available at legalnursebusiness.com/expertedu.







Get the free transcripts and also learn about other ways to subscribe. Go to Legal Nurse Podcasts subscribe options by using this short link: http://LNC.tips/subscribepodcast.











Are you finding it tough to Grow Your LNC Business?



You are not alone!







Join us for the 12th LNC SUCCESS® 3-DAY ONLINE CONFERENCE on November 13, 14, & 15, 2025!



It’s a chance to learn how to overcome common challenges and gain the skills you need to succeed in legal nurse consulting. Connect with industry experts who will share practical strategies for standing out, building strong relationships with attorneys, and effectively presenting your value. No matter your experience level, this conference will empower you to discover fresh opportunities and advance your business.



What to Expect



Expert-Led Sessions: Engage with sessions led by top industry professionals.



Interactive Workshops: Participate in hands-on workshops designed to enhance your consulting skills.



Networking Opportunities: Build lasting connections with peers and potential clients.



Resource Materials: Receive exclusive materials that will support your ongoing professional development.



Don't miss this chance to make a real impact on your business.



Register Today



Secure your spot at the 12th LNC SUCCESS® 3-DAY ONLINE CONFERENCE on November 13, 14, & 15, 2025, and take your first step toward becoming a leading legal nurse consultant!



We look forward to welcoming you to this pivotal event in February 2025!











Your Presenter for Heart Procedures: Cardiac Stents and Beyond



Joshua M Willis, MD



Dr. Willis completed a cardiology fellowship at the Cleveland Clinic Foundation (2007-2010) and an Interventional Cardiology fellowship at the University of Florida (2010-2011).      



In 2011, he took a private cardiology practice job in Chattanooga, Tennessee, splitting his time between hospital-based procedures (cardiac catheterizations, percutaneous coronary interventions, Swan Ganz catheterization for invasive hemodynamic measurements, Impella device placement etc.) and clinic duties, and seeing approximately 24-26 patients per full clinic day.



His job responsibilities at Wellstar include three days in the hospital, providing Interventional and General Cardiology coverage and 1.5 days in clinic seeing outpatients, total of 35-40 outpatient visits per week.



Connect with Joshua M Willis, MD by email at [email protected],
0:00 13:37

639 – Why Attorneys Aren’t Hiring You and What To Do About It – Pat Iyer

Hosts
Pat Iyer
Keywords
legal nurse consulting attorneys client acquisition marketing strategies specialization networking business mindset
Welcome to another insightful episode of the Legal Nurse Podcast with your host, Pat Iyer. Today, we're tackling a crucial topic for new legal nurse consultants: "Why Attorneys are Not Hiring You And What to do About it."



If you find yourself struggling to secure clients or even gain responses from attorneys, this episode is packed with valuable guidance to help you navigate these challenges.



Pat Iyer, a seasoned legal nurse consultant and business coach, shares her expertise on the common mistakes many LNCs make and offers actionable strategies to



communicate your value effectively,



specialize in specific case types, and



understand the vital distinction between running a business and being an employee.







Whether you're new to the field or looking to refine your approach, this episode serves as a comprehensive guide to positioning yourself for success and recognition in the legal industry. Tune in and discover the practical steps you need to take to thrive in your legal nurse consulting journey.



Why Attorneys Aren’t Hiring You and What To Do About It Addresses these Questions:



In this episode, you’ll discover the answer to these questions:



What are some misconceptions attorneys might have about the role of a legal nurse consultant that can hinder hiring?



How can legal nurse consultants more effectively communicate their value to attorneys?



Why might focusing too much on nursing credentials be counterproductive when marketing to attorneys?



What are some effective alternatives to using a traditional resume for attracting the attention of attorneys?



Why is it important for a legal nurse consultant to specialize in certain types of cases rather than being a generalist?



How might a legal nurse consultant personalize themselves to stand out from others in the field?



What are some pitfalls of relying solely on cold calling as a marketing strategy, and what alternatives might be more successful?



Why is follow-up important after initial contact with attorneys, and what strategies can you use to stay on their radar?



How can legal nurse consultants identify and target their networking efforts to connect with the right attorneys?



What mindset shift is necessary for legal nurse consultants when transitioning from a nursing role to a consultancy business owner, and why is this important for success?







Listen to our podcasts or watch them using our app, Expert.edu, available at legalnursebusiness.com/expertedu.







Get the free transcripts and also learn about other ways to subscribe. Go to Legal Nurse Podcasts subscribe options by using this short link: http://LNC.tips/subscribepodcast.











Are you finding it tough to Grow Your LNC Business?



You are not alone!







Join us for the 12th LNC SUCCESS® 3-DAY ONLINE CONFERENCE on November 13, 14, & 15, 2025!



It’s a chance to learn how to overcome common challenges and gain the skills you need to succeed in legal nurse consulting. Connect with industry experts who will share practical strategies for standing out, building strong relationships with attorneys, and effectively presenting your value. No matter your experience level, this conference will empower you to discover fresh opportunities and advance your business.



What to Expect



Expert-Led Sessions: Engage with sessions led by top industry professionals.



Interactive Workshops: Participate in hands-on workshops designed to enhance your consulting skills.



Networking Opportunities: Build lasting connections with peers and potential clients.



Resource Materials: Receive exclusive materials that will support your ongoing professional development.



Don't miss this chance to make a real impact on your business.



Register Today



Secure your spot at the 12th LNC SUCCESS® 3-DAY ONLINE CONFERENCE on November 13, 14, & 15, 2025, and take your first step toward becoming a leading legal nurse consultant!
0:00 1:07:37

638 – How to Avoid Common LNC Mistakes: Tips for New LNCs – Pat Iyer

Hosts
Jen Kane Tim Kane
Guests
Pat Iyer
Keywords
legal nurse consulting common mistakes new LNCs niche pricing services building connections business skills marketing skills
Today, we delve into the complex world of legal nurse consulting with Pat Iyer, who joins hosts Jen and Tim Kane to unravel the biggest mistakes new LNCs make when starting their journeys.



This episode promises to be a goldmine of insights and practical advice for those looking to navigate the intricate landscape of legal nurse consulting. Pat, a seasoned LNC and business coach, sheds light on common pitfalls and offers strategies to help LNCs avoid them.



Whether it's understanding your niche, pricing your services effectively, or building valuable connections, this episode covers it all. Don’t miss this opportunity to learn from the best and take your LNC business to new heights. Tune in now for an enlightening discussion full of wisdom, tips, and unforgettable stories.



How to Avoid Common LNC Mistakes Podcast Addresses these Questions:



What are the common mistakes that new LNCs make and how can they avoid them?



Why is it essential for LNCs to define their target audience and the specific services they offer?



How can LNCs effectively set and communicate their rates to attorneys?



What strategies can LNCs use to follow up with attorneys and build successful relationships?



Why is investing in business and marketing skills crucial for the success of a Legal Nurse Consulting business?







Listen to our podcasts or watch them using our app, Expert.edu, available at legalnursebusiness.com/expertedu.







Get the free transcripts and also learn about other ways to subscribe. Go to Legal Nurse Podcasts subscribe options by using this short link: http://LNC.tips/subscribepodcast.







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z04mRlqqapw







Are you finding it tough to Grow Your LNC Business?



You are not alone!







Join us for the 12th LNC SUCCESS® 3-DAY ONLINE CONFERENCE on November 13, 14, & 15, 2025!



It’s a chance to learn how to overcome common challenges and gain the skills you need to succeed in legal nurse consulting. Connect with industry experts who will share practical strategies for standing out, building strong relationships with attorneys, and effectively presenting your value. No matter your experience level, this conference will empower you to discover fresh opportunities and advance your business.



What to Expect



Expert-Led Sessions: Engage with sessions led by top industry professionals.



Interactive Workshops: Participate in hands-on workshops designed to enhance your consulting skills.



Networking Opportunities: Build lasting connections with peers and potential clients.



Resource Materials: Receive exclusive materials that will support your ongoing professional development.



Don't miss this chance to make a real impact on your business.



Register Today



Secure your spot at the 12th LNC SUCCESS® 3-DAY ONLINE CONFERENCE on November 13, 14, & 15, 2025, and take your first step toward becoming a leading legal nurse consultant!



We look forward to welcoming you to this pivotal event in February 2025!











Your Presenters for How to Avoid Common LNC Mistakes



Tim Kane



I am an RN of 20 years. I have been observing DMEs since 2012. I recently passed gone over 1000 DMEs since I started. My Alma Mater in 2015 gave me the Distinguished Alumni Award for developing a nursing business. I entered the nursing world after working as a Police Officer in a small town outside Buffalo NY. My law enforcement job had me in the local ER and that made my decision to enter the field of nursing.



Connect with Tim Kane by email at [email protected]



Pat Iyer



Pat Iyer is a seasoned legal nurse consultant and business coach with a rich tapestry of experience spanning over 30 years. Renowned for her keen skills in financial strategy and collection, Pat successfully ran a legal nurse consulting firm that achieved annual sales exceeding $1 million for the last five years of its operation.



Despite declaring that "numbers are not my friends,
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637 – Overcoming Fee Challenges: A Guide for Legal Nurse Consultants – Pat Iyer and Barbara Levin

Hosts
Pat Iyer
Guests
Barbara Levin
Keywords
Legal Nurse Consultant fees billing strategies hourly rates flat fees retainers fee agreements payment business clarity
Welcome to another insightful episode of Legal Nurse Podcast.Today, we dive deep into the complexities of setting fees as a Legal Nurse Consultant (LNC). Join us as host Pat Iyer, a seasoned legal nurse consultant and business coach, and Barbara Levin, an experienced LNC and expert witness, unpack the hard truths about LNC fees.



Whether you're just starting and unsure how to set your rates or you're a seasoned consultant feeling like you're not charging enough, this conversation is filled with valuable advice for you.



Pat shares her personal experiences, including the challenges of working with attorneys, the pitfalls of setting your fees too low, and the importance of having a clear fee agreement. We also explore different billing strategies—be they hourly rates, flat fees, or retainers—and discuss how crucial it is to handle attorney inquiries effectively.



This episode is a treasure trove of strategies to ensure you're getting paid what you're worth and that you're running your business with financial clarity. So, gear up for a session that's both educational and empowering.



The Overcoming Fee Challenges Podcast Addresses these Questions:



What are some of the challenges new Legal Nurse Consultants (LNCs) face when setting their fees, and how can they overcome these hurdles?



Why is it problematic for LNCs to charge lower fees initially, and what impact does this have on their business and client relationships?



In what ways can LNCs ensure they receive payment on time from attorneys?



How can LNCs confidently set their rates, and what role does confidence play in fee negotiations with attorneys?



Discuss the advantages and disadvantages of using hourly rates versus flat fees for LNC services.



What are replenishing retainers, and why are they important for LNCs in managing their cash flow?



How does having a detailed fee agreement benefit an LNC, and what essential elements should be included in such agreements?



Why is it critical for LNCs to refund unused retainer funds, and what could be the legal and ethical implications of keeping them?



Explore the misconception among some LNCs that charging lower fees will result in more business. How can this mindset be detrimental?



How can LNCs use retainer refunds and honest billing practices as a tool for building strong relationships with their attorney clients?







Listen to our podcasts or watch them using our app, Expert.edu, available at legalnursebusiness.com/expertedu.







Get the free transcripts and also learn about other ways to subscribe. Go to Legal Nurse Podcasts subscribe options by using this short link: http://LNC.tips/subscribepodcast.







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA4g2LH1K2o







Are you finding it tough to Grow Your LNC Business?



You are not alone!







Join us for the 12th LNC SUCCESS® 3-DAY ONLINE CONFERENCE on November 13, 14, & 15, 2025!



It’s a chance to learn how to overcome common challenges and gain the skills you need to succeed in legal nurse consulting. Connect with industry experts who will share practical strategies for standing out, building strong relationships with attorneys, and effectively presenting your value. No matter your experience level, this conference will empower you to discover fresh opportunities and advance your business.



What to Expect



Expert-Led Sessions: Engage with sessions led by top industry professionals.



Interactive Workshops: Participate in hands-on workshops designed to enhance your consulting skills.



Networking Opportunities: Build lasting connections with peers and potential clients.



Resource Materials: Receive exclusive materials that will support your ongoing professional development.



Don't miss this chance to make a real impact on your business.



Register Today



Secure your spot at the 12th LNC SUCCESS® 3-DAY ONLINE CONFERENCE on November 13, 14, & 15, 2025, and take your first step toward becoming a leading legal nurse consult...
0:00 29:04

636 – Mastering LinkedIn for LNCs – Abby Rogers

Hosts
Pat Iyer
Guests
Abby Rogers
Keywords
LinkedIn legal nursing subcontracting marketing artificial intelligence consulting skills
Abby Rogers, who first investigated legal nursing as a career three years ago has made a commitment with impressive results. She began as a subcontractor, which she feels gave her the grounding to reach out for an independent career. Her first independent client didn’t know what he wanted, which gave her a unique opportunity to guide him.



Abby currently divides her work life between bedside nursing and LNC work. A special aspect of her promotional efforts involves LinkedIn, which she has studied in detail. While she feels that individuals find their own “sweet spots” in terms of types and amounts of posts, she shares what has worked and what has not worked for her.



Currently, she posts about three times a week. She also makes a point of responding to others’ posts. She analyzes her successes and failures in terms of responses and considers LinkedIn to be a major marketing tool for her.



She says that a lot of her best post ideas come when she’s walking her dog or doing other non-writing-related tasks. She urges those who want to post regularly to make a record of their ideas. Some may not be immediately relevant, but they can be used later.



When questioned about whether she uses artificial intelligence, she says only as a last step, for polishing language. She finds that if she makes it more part of the formative stage of writing, it ends up not sounding like her.



Abby is an enterprising and talented LNC businesswoman. You can learn a lot from this interview.



What you'll get from Mastering LinkedIn for LNCs



How can subcontracting help a nurse gain experience?



How does taking an open-minded approach to what you can do for a client help your business?



How frequently should you post on LinkedIn?



Why is it important to respond to others’ posts?



What role can artificial intelligence play in writing posts?







Listen to our podcasts or watch them using our app, Expert.edu, available at legalnursebusiness.com/expertedu.







Get the free transcripts and also learn about other ways to subscribe. Go to Legal Nurse Podcasts subscribe options by using this short link: http://LNC.tips/subscribepodcast.







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R25t0LyeXmg











Grow Your LNC Business



Are you finding it tough to Grow Your LNC Business? You are not alone!



Join us for the 12th LNC SUCCESS® 3-DAY ONLINE CONFERENCE on November 13, 14, & 15, 2025!



It’s a chance to learn how to overcome common challenges and gain the skills you need to succeed in legal nurse consulting. Connect with industry experts who will share practical strategies for standing out, building strong relationships with attorneys, and effectively presenting your value. No matter your experience level, this conference will empower you to discover fresh opportunities and advance your business.



What to Expect



Expert-Led Sessions: Engage with sessions led by top industry professionals.



Interactive Workshops: Participate in hands-on workshops designed to enhance your consulting skills.



Networking Opportunities: Build lasting connections with peers and potential clients.



Resource Materials: Receive exclusive materials that will support your ongoing professional development.



Don't miss this chance to make a real impact on your business.



Register Today



Secure your spot at the 12th LNC SUCCESS® 3-DAY ONLINE CONFERENCE on November 13, 14, & 15, 2025, and take your first step toward becoming a leading legal nurse consultant!



We look forward to welcoming you to this pivotal event in February 2025!











Your Presenters for Mastering LinkedIn for LNCs



Abby Rogers



With years of experience as a dedicated NICU nurse, Abby Rogers founded Birth Injury Nurses to bridge the gap between medical expertise and legal insights. Combining meticulous attention to detail and a deep understanding of neonatal care, she assists attorneys with comprehensive case evaluations and medical record organization,
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