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“Pod Save America” cohost Tommy Vietor thought foreign policy was boring and complicated until he got the education of a lifetime working for President Obama’s National Security Council. On “Pod Save the World,” he and former deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes break down the latest global developments and bring you behind the scenes with the people who were there. New episodes every Wednesday.
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“Pod Save America” cohost Tommy Vietor thought foreign policy was boring and complicated until he got the education of a lifetime working for President Obama’s National Security Council. On “Pod Save the World,” he and former deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes break down the latest global developments and bring you behind the scenes with the people who were there. New episodes every Wednesday.
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Here's a quick summary of the last 5 episodes on Pod Save the World.
Hosts
Tommy Vietor
Ben Rhodes
Previous Guests
Josh Rogin
Josh Rogin is a political journalist and author known for his work on foreign policy and national security. He is a columnist for the Washington Post and has previously worked for various media outlets, including Bloomberg View and Foreign Policy. Rogin is recognized for his insights into U.S.-China relations and has authored the book 'Chaos Under Heaven: Trump, Xi, and the Battle for the Twenty-First Century,' which examines the complexities of U.S. foreign policy during the Trump administration.
Josh Rogin is a political journalist and author known for his work on foreign policy and national security. He is a columnist for the Washington Post and has previously worked for various media outlets, including Bloomberg View and Foreign Policy. Rogin is recognized for his insights into U.S.-China relations and has authored the book 'Chaos Under Heaven: Trump, Xi, and the Battle for the Twenty-First Century,' which examines the complexities of U.S. foreign policy during the Trump administration.
Noah Bullock
Noah Bullock is the Executive Director of Cristosal, an organization focused on human rights and social justice in Central America. He has extensive experience in advocacy and has worked on issues related to the brutality of prison systems, particularly in El Salvador. Under his leadership, Cristosal has been involved in various initiatives aimed at improving human rights conditions and addressing the challenges faced by marginalized communities in the region.
Noah Bullock is the Executive Director of Cristosal, an organization focused on human rights and social justice in Central America. He has extensive experience in advocacy and has worked on issues related to the brutality of prison systems, particularly in El Salvador. Under his leadership, Cristosal has been involved in various initiatives aimed at improving human rights conditions and addressing the challenges faced by marginalized communities in the region.
David Miliband
David Miliband is a British politician and former Labour Party cabinet minister who served as the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs from 2007 to 2010. He is currently the President of the International Rescue Committee, a humanitarian organization that responds to the world's worst crises. Miliband has a background in international relations and has been a prominent advocate for humanitarian issues, focusing on global health, refugee crises, and international development.
David Miliband is a British politician and former Labour Party cabinet minister who served as the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs from 2007 to 2010. He is currently the President of the International Rescue Committee, a humanitarian organization that responds to the world's worst crises. Miliband has a background in international relations and has been a prominent advocate for humanitarian issues, focusing on global health, refugee crises, and international development.
Jeremy Shapiro
Jeremy Shapiro is the Research Director at the European Council of Foreign Relations (ECFR), where he focuses on European foreign policy and transatlantic relations. He has extensive experience in international relations and has previously served in various roles within the U.S. government, including at the State Department. Shapiro is known for his insights on European politics, security issues, and the dynamics of U.S.-Europe relations.
Jeremy Shapiro is the Research Director at the European Council of Foreign Relations (ECFR), where he focuses on European foreign policy and transatlantic relations. He has extensive experience in international relations and has previously served in various roles within the U.S. government, including at the State Department. Shapiro is known for his insights on European politics, security issues, and the dynamics of U.S.-Europe relations.
Topics Discussed
Pentagon
Pete Hegseth
FBI Director
Marco Rubio
Pope Francis
China
trade war
Trump tariffs
US airstrikes
Houthi rebels
Bibi Netanyahu
Gaza
Moose Migration
Nayib Bukele
Trump
due process
Daniel Noboa
Ecuador
Erik Prince
Ukraine
Iran nuclear program
Josh Rogin
China policy
global chaos
national security
Israel
South Sudan
civil war
South Korea
El Salvador
prison system
Marine Le Pen
embezzlement conviction
France's political future
Trump's Liberation Day
US tariffs
national security staffing
Elise Stefanik
UN nomination
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth
deportations
student visas
Ukraine mineral deal
corruption
David Miliband
USAID cuts
humanitarian response
Myanmar
Sudan
global health
Trump's national security team
top secret war plans
Turkey's democracy
Erdoan
Gaza annexation
settler attack
No Other Land
Russia
maritime ceasefire
conflicts in Sudan
Congo
immigration
temporary protected status
Jeremy Shapiro
European Council of Foreign Relations
Turkey's political unrest
Romania's election
Hungarian politics
Tommy and Ben discuss the latest scandal engulfing Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and why even his defenders say the Pentagon is in chaos, a report about the FBI Directors jet-setting lifestyle, and Secretary of State Marco Rubios mindless reorganization of the State Department. They also talk about Pope Francis moral leadership on global affairs, how China is winning the trade war and concern that the impact of Trumps tariffs might be irreversible, why US airstrikes on the Houthi rebels have failed to deter them, a new political crisis for Israeli PM Bibi Netanyahu, the latest from Gaza, and why Swedes are Netflix and chilling to the Moose Migration.
For a closed-captioned version of this episode, clickhere. For a transcript of this episode, please email [email protected] and include the name of the podcast.
Tommy and Ben discuss the latest scandal engulfing Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and why even his defenders say the Pentagon is in chaos, a report about the FBI Directors jet-setting lifestyle, and Secretary of State Marco Rubios mindless reorganization of the State Department. They also talk about Pope Francis moral leadership on global affairs, how China is winning the trade war and concern that the impact of Trumps tariffs might be irreversible, why US airstrikes on the Houthi rebels have failed to deter them, a new political crisis for Israeli PM Bibi Netanyahu, the latest from Gaza, and why Swedes are Netflix and chilling to the Moose Migration.
For a closed-captioned version of this episode, clickhere. For a transcript of this episode, please email [email protected] and include the name of the podcast.
0:001:38:01
World’s Lamest Dictator Goes to Washington
Hosts
Hosts of this podcast episode
Tommy VietorBen Rhodes
Guests
Guests of this podcast episode
Josh Rogin
Keywords
Keywords of this podcast episode
Nayib BukeleTrumpdue processDaniel NoboaEcuadorErik PrinceUkraineIran nuclear programJosh RoginChina policytrade war
Tommy and Ben discuss El Salvadorian President Nayib Bukele’s White House meeting with Trump and their coordinated assault on due process in America, the terrifying prospect of Trump sending American citizens to foreign prisons, Daniel Noboa’s re-election in Ecuador, and disgraced military contractor Erik Prince’s attempts to privatize and profit from right-wing autocracy. They also talk about Trump’s failures to end the war in Ukraine, the administration's talks with Iran about its nuclear program and the fight to define what a successful Iran deal 2.0 could look like, and the anti-Trump effect on Australia and Canada’s upcoming elections. Then, Tommy speaks to Josh Rogin, author of Chaos Under Heaven: Trump, Xi, and the Battle for the Twenty-First Century, about Trump’s chaotic China policymaking in the first term and who in the administration is influencing his decision-making as he launches a massive trade war.
For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email [email protected] and include the name of the podcast.
Tommy and Ben discuss El Salvadorian President Nayib Bukele’s White House meeting with Trump and their coordinated assault on due process in America, the terrifying prospect of Trump sending American citizens to foreign prisons, Daniel Noboa’s re-election in Ecuador, and disgraced military contractor Erik Prince’s attempts to privatize and profit from right-wing autocracy. They also talk about Trump’s failures to end the war in Ukraine, the administration's talks with Iran about its nuclear program and the fight to define what a successful Iran deal 2.0 could look like, and the anti-Trump effect on Australia and Canada’s upcoming elections. Then, Tommy speaks to Josh Rogin, author of Chaos Under Heaven: Trump, Xi, and the Battle for the Twenty-First Century, about Trump’s chaotic China policymaking in the first term and who in the administration is influencing his decision-making as he launches a massive trade war.
For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email [email protected] and include the name of the podcast.
Tommy and Ben discuss the disastrous impact of Trump’s “Liberation Day” tariffs, how a fringe right-wing conspiracy theorist got Trump to fire top national security officials, Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu’s visit to Washington and the upcoming talks between the Trump administration and Iran. Then they explain why South Sudan is teetering on the edge of civil war, and the dramatic end of South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol’s time in power. Finally, Tommy speaks to Noah Bullock, Executive Director of Cristosal, about the brutality of El Salvador’s prison system and why Donald Trump and Nayib Bukele have forged such a close relationship.
For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email [email protected] and include the name of the podcast.
Tommy and Ben discuss the disastrous impact of Trump’s “Liberation Day” tariffs, how a fringe right-wing conspiracy theorist got Trump to fire top national security officials, Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu’s visit to Washington and the upcoming talks between the Trump administration and Iran. Then they explain why South Sudan is teetering on the edge of civil war, and the dramatic end of South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol’s time in power. Finally, Tommy speaks to Noah Bullock, Executive Director of Cristosal, about the brutality of El Salvador’s prison system and why Donald Trump and Nayib Bukele have forged such a close relationship.
For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email [email protected] and include the name of the podcast.
0:001:30:44
Happy "Liberation Day" to All Who Celebrate
Hosts
Hosts of this podcast episode
Tommy VietorBen Rhodes
Guests
Guests of this podcast episode
David Miliband
Keywords
Keywords of this podcast episode
Marine Le Penembezzlement convictionFrance's political futureTrump's Liberation DayUS tariffsnational security staffingElise StefanikUN nominationDefense Secretary Pete Hegsethdeportationsstudent visasUkraine mineral dealcorruptionDavid MilibandUSAID cutshumanitarian responseMyanmarSudanglobal health
Tommy and Ben discuss French far-right leader Marine Le Pen’s embezzlement conviction and what it could mean for France’s political future, reactions from world leaders to Trump’s promised “Liberation Day” when US tariffs on global imports will supposedly go into effect, and a spate of incompetent national security staffing stories from Elise Stefanik losing the UN nomination to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth bringing his wife to meetings. They also talk about the chilling effects of deportations and student visas being revoked and how the latest version of the Ukraine mineral deal will only lead to corruption and grift from Trump’s goons. Then Ben speaks with International Rescue Committee President David Miliband about the hole USAID cuts have left in the humanitarian response to crises in Myanmar, Sudan, and global health.
For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email [email protected] and include the name of the podcast.
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Tommy and Ben discuss French far-right leader Marine Le Pen’s embezzlement conviction and what it could mean for France’s political future, reactions from world leaders to Trump’s promised “Liberation Day” when US tariffs on global imports will supposedly go into effect, and a spate of incompetent national security staffing stories from Elise Stefanik losing the UN nomination to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth bringing his wife to meetings. They also talk about the chilling effects of deportations and student visas being revoked and how the latest version of the Ukraine mineral deal will only lead to corruption and grift from Trump’s goons. Then Ben speaks with International Rescue Committee President David Miliband about the hole USAID cuts have left in the humanitarian response to crises in Myanmar, Sudan, and global health.
For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email [email protected] and include the name of the podcast.
Sign up for our Friends of the Pod community at crooked.com/friends to start your 30-day free trial!
0:001:40:18
Call of Duty: Dumbass Group Chat
Hosts
Hosts of this podcast episode
Tommy VietorBen Rhodes
Guests
Guests of this podcast episode
Jeremy Shapiro
Keywords
Keywords of this podcast episode
Trump's national security teamtop secret war plansTurkey's democracyErdoanBibi NetanyahuGaza annexationsettler attackNo Other LandRussiamaritime ceasefireUkraineconflicts in SudanCongoimmigrationtemporary protected statusJeremy ShapiroEuropean Council of Foreign RelationsTurkey's political unrestRomania's electionHungarian politics
Tommy and Ben discuss the fallout from Trump's national security team accidentally sending top secret war plans to a journalist, Turkey's backsliding democracy as a result of Erdoğan arresting his top political opponent, and Bibi Netanyahu's continuing efforts to remove internal critics while Israel gears up for potential annexation of Gaza. They also discuss a violent settler attack on the Oscar winning co-director of No Other Land, Russia's maximalist terms for the new maritime ceasefire with Ukraine, the conflicts in Sudan and Congo, and the Trump administration's latest immigration moves, including revoking temporary protected status for over 500,000 people. Then, Tommy is joined by Jeremy Shapiro, Research Director at the European Council of Foreign Relations, for a tour of Europe, including Turkey's political unrest, Romania's fraught election, and the latest with Hungarian strongman Viktor Orbán.
For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email [email protected] and include the name of the podcast.
Tommy and Ben discuss the fallout from Trump's national security team accidentally sending top secret war plans to a journalist, Turkey's backsliding democracy as a result of Erdoğan arresting his top political opponent, and Bibi Netanyahu's continuing efforts to remove internal critics while Israel gears up for potential annexation of Gaza. They also discuss a violent settler attack on the Oscar winning co-director of No Other Land, Russia's maximalist terms for the new maritime ceasefire with Ukraine, the conflicts in Sudan and Congo, and the Trump administration's latest immigration moves, including revoking temporary protected status for over 500,000 people. Then, Tommy is joined by Jeremy Shapiro, Research Director at the European Council of Foreign Relations, for a tour of Europe, including Turkey's political unrest, Romania's fraught election, and the latest with Hungarian strongman Viktor Orbán.
For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email [email protected] and include the name of the podcast.
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