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Get the edge with Hidden Forces where media entrepreneur and financial analyst Demetri Kofinas gives you access to the people and ideas that matter, so you can build financial security and always stay ahead of the curve.

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Kamran Bokhari is a Senior Director at the New Lines Institute for Strategy & Policy. He has previously served in the U.S. State Department and as a Senior Consultant with the World Bank. Bokhari is known for his expertise on Middle Eastern affairs, U.S. foreign policy, and strategic analysis.
Joseph Torigian is an expert on the politics of authoritarian regimes and the Chinese Communist Party. He is the author of the book 'The Party's Interests Come First,' a political biography and historical analysis of Xi Zhongxun, father of Xi Jinping. Torigian's expertise includes elite power struggles, civil-military relations, and grand strategy within authoritarian states.
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Ian Fletcher is one of America's foremost experts on industrial policy, with extensive knowledge and experience in economic policy, particularly in the context of revitalizing the U.S. economy through strategic industrial initiatives.
Kyle Chan is an expert on the Chinese economy and China's industrial policy, focusing on China's technological and economic development, and its implications for global supply chains and international relations.

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Why does the price of gold futures matter to people buying toilet paper in Nebraska?
How can we stop social media from eroding our democracy?
Are we really in a new Cold War with China?

On Hidden Forces, media entrepreneur and market analyst Demetri Kofinas uses a financial and cultural lens to help listeners make connections, challenge consensus narratives, and realize novel solutions to complex problems. Entrepreneurs, investors, scholars, artists, and others seeking to understand today’s complex societal problems trust Hidden Forces to give them an edge.

Michael Casey and Sheila Warren write that Kofinas is “a master at drawing big-picture narratives” around complex problems, while Nathaniel Whitmore says Hidden Forces is “one of the most unique podcasts in the business space because it comes at business and markets topics with an interesting and broad, polyglot lens.”

Podcast episodes feature a wide variety of luminaries, visionaries, and contrarians.

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Get the edge with Hidden Forces, where podcast host @dkofinas teaches you how to think critically about the systems of power that structure our world.

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0:00 1:03:02

Israel-Iran War: Economic and Strategic Consequences | Kamran Bokhari

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Kamran Bokhari
Keywords
geopolitics international relations national security economic policy foreign policy conflict resolution nuclear energy global economy terrorism military strategy

In Episode 424 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Kamran Bokhari, Senior Director at the New Lines Institute for Strategy & Policy, who has served in the U.S. State Department and as a Senior Consultant with the World Bank.

Bokhari first appeared on the podcast shortly after the October 7th attacks to discuss the violence ignited by Hamas, the nature and scope of Iranian involvement, and how various regional actors exploited the growing disorder to their advantage, as the Biden administration struggled to stabilize a region on the brink of another major war.

In subsequent appearances, Bokhari has provided the Hidden Forces audience with critical context for understanding U.S.-Israeli and Iranian strategic aims and limitations, the interests and constraints of other regional states (including Saudi Arabia and Turkey), how the events in the Middle East are perceived in Beijing and Moscow, and how the situation may evolve from here.

The broader conflict with Iran, which has consistently framed these discussions, has now directly involved the United States following its recent deployment of fourteen 30,000-pound bombs targeting three Iranian nuclear sites: the Fordow Uranium Enrichment Plant, the nuclear facility in Natanz, and the Isfahan Nuclear Technology Center. What happens next—and whether the White House's actions will ultimately prove beneficial to America's long-term strategic objectives—forms the central focus of this two-hour conversation.

In the first hour, Bokhari and Kofinas update listeners on recent developments, assessing the initial successes and failures of U.S. and Israeli strategic planners, the Iranian response, immediate risks to the United States and its allies, and how this war is likely to reshape the economic and security order of the Middle East over the next five years.

In the second hour, Demetri and Kamran widen their aperture to examine how the conflict will affect the economic and military imperatives of the United States and China, along with their respective alliances and trading networks. They also discuss the potential economic repercussions and secondary impacts resulting from America's attack on Iran. The episode concludes with an examination of best- and worst-case scenarios, ranging from a new investment supercycle in the Middle East to the deployment of battlefield nuclear weapons and heightened risks of international terrorism in the United States and Europe.

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Producer & Host: Demetri Kofinas
Editor & Engineer: Stylianos Nicolaou

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Episode Recorded on 06/23/2025

0:00 53:01

The Party Comes First: Power & Politics in Xi's China | Joseph Torigian

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Joseph Torigian
Keywords
authoritarian regimes political power global politics political history ideology political strategy leadership political reform historical analysis international relations

In Episode 423 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Joseph Torigian, an expert on the politics of authoritarian regimes and the Chinese Communist Party, with a particular focus on elite power struggles, civil-military relations, and grand strategy. Torigian is also the author of a widely discussed new book titled “The Party’s Interests Come First,” a political biography and historical analysis of Xi Zhongxun, the father of Xi Jinping,  the leader of China and the head of the Chinese Communist Party.

In the first hour, Torigian and Kofinas trace the evolution, internal contradictions, and complex dynamics of political power and succession within the Chinese Communist Party, revealing the critical role that personal networks, ideological discipline, factional struggle, and narrative have played in shaping Chinese political history and culture. They explore several critical periods in Chinese communist party history, including Mao Zedong’s Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution, the period of reform and opening up under Deng Xiaoping, and the post-Tiananmen period following the 1989 crackdown.

In the second hour, Kofinas and Torigian focus on China's current leader, Xi Jinping, examining the political lessons he has drawn from the struggles endured by his father while exploring how those experiences have shaped his party loyalties and reinforced his commitment to restoring China’s greatness and securing its position on the global stage.

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Episode Recorded on 06/17/2025

0:00 1:43:01

Trump vs. Musk: One Big Beautiful Blowup | Lawrence Fossi

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Lawrence Fossi
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Trump Musk political fallout budget challenges third party support future of Elon Musk Trump administration

Episode 422 is the sixth episode in the Hundred Year Pivot podcast series. In it, Demetri Kofinas and Grant Williams speak with Lawrence Fossi, about the recent fallout between President Donald Trump and his biggest political booster, Elon Musk.

This is a critical and sober exploration of the political and budgetary challenges facing the country. It spares no criticisms of either Trump or Musk and is not meant for politically sensitive or easily offended partisans.

In it, we discuss Musk’s failed efforts to address the budget, his support for the formation of a new third party, and what the future holds for the world’s richest man.

We also place an equally critical lens over the Trump administration, examining the president’s time in office, the sum effect of his actions, and what the next three and half years could mean for the country.  

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If you’d like to join the conversation and become a member of the Hidden Forces Genius community—with benefits like Q&A calls with guests, exclusive research and analysis, in-person events, and dinners—you can also sign up on our subscriber page at HiddenForces.io/subscribe.

If you enjoyed today’s episode of Hidden Forces, please support the show by:

Producer & Host: Demetri Kofinas
Editor & Engineer: Stylianos Nicolaou

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Episode Recorded on 06/09/2025

0:00 1:10:57

The Case for a New U.S. Industrial Policy | Ian Fletcher

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Ian Fletcher
Keywords
industrial policy free trade U.S. economy economic development innovation policy tools international examples historical analysis policy recommendations

In Episode 421 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Ian Fletcher, one of America’s foremost experts on industrial policy, about the problems with free trade and how to revitalize the U.S. economy.

Ian and Demetri spend the first hour of the episode laying the foundation for the argument Fletcher and his co-author, Marc Fasteau, present in their book Industrial Policy for the United States: Winning the Competition for Good Jobs and High-Value Industries. This portion includes a comprehensive critique of free-market economics and a systematic exploration of the tools that can be deployed to build critical industries and ignite flywheels of innovation essential to the long-term success of a modern economy.

In the second hour, Kofinas and Fletcher examine international and historical examples of both successful and unsuccessful implementations of industrial policy, discussing what went right, what went wrong, and how those lessons can inform the development and implementation of a successful industrial policy for the United States in the 21st century. The conversation concludes with a series of policy recommendations for the White House and Congress.

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Episode Recorded on 06/2/2025

0:00 46:49

In The Future China Will Be Dominant & the US Irrelevant | Kyle Chan

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Kyle Chan
Keywords
China industrial policy technological revolution economic prosperity supply chains high-end technology manufacturing financial capitalism market economy research and development international talent economic ties

In Episode 420 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Kyle Chan—an expert on the Chinese economy and China’s industrial policy—about why he believes China is poised to dominate high-end technology and manufacturing, and why factories worldwide will reorganize their supply chains with China at the center, as the world’s preeminent technological and economic superpower.

Kyle and Demetri spend the first hour dissecting China’s industrial policy and dispelling misconceptions about the historical foundations of economic prosperity. Their discussion highlights the reciprocal interactions among the state, financial capitalism, and the market economy—dynamics that have driven the technological revolutions transforming modern life over the past two centuries.

In the second hour, Chan and Kofinas delve deeper into China’s playbook, drawing lessons for the United States. They outline policy choices that are both self-evident and broadly bipartisan: investing in research and development; forging strategically important economic ties with other nations; and fostering a welcoming, attractive climate for international talent and capital.

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If you’d like to join the conversation and become a member of the Hidden Forces Genius community—with benefits like Q&A calls with guests, exclusive research and analysis, in-person events, and dinners—you can also sign up on our subscriber page at HiddenForces.io/subscribe.

If you enjoyed today’s episode of Hidden Forces, please support the show by:

Producer & Host: Demetri Kofinas
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Join the conversation on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at @hiddenforcespod
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Episode Recorded on 04/20/2025

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