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Bitcoin pioneer Charlie Shrem peels back the layers on the lives and backgrounds of the world's most impactful innovators. Centering around intimate narratives, Shrem uncovers a detailed, previously unspoken story of the genesis and evolution of bitcoin, cryptocurrency, artificial intelligence, and the web3 movements. Join Shrem as he journeys through the uncharted territories of tech revolutions, revealing the human side of the stories that shaped the digital world we live in today.

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CJKonstantinos is the founder of People's Reserve, creating Bitcoin-backed financial products and innovative collateral solutions that are reshaping modern finance.
Joey Rosati is an investor and entrepreneur with experience in venture capital, real estate, and traditional businesses. He has a background working in VC trenches at Druid Ventures, investing in various sectors including real estate, sports, and adult entertainment. Joey is known for his focus on cash-flowing businesses, blending traditional and modern approaches, and his entrepreneurial journey from lottery chaos in Guatemala to managing legacy businesses.
Josip Rupena is the founder and CEO of Milo, a fintech startup that specializes in providing crypto-backed mortgage loans. Under his leadership, Milo has issued over $60 million in crypto mortgages, allowing individuals to purchase homes using Bitcoin without the need to sell their assets. Rupena is recognized for his innovative approach to integrating cryptocurrency into traditional financial systems, particularly in the real estate sector. His work focuses on creating financial solutions that enhance wealth generation and real-world utility for Bitcoin holders.
Chris Jinx Jenkins is the head of operations at the Pocket Network Foundation, where he plays a pivotal role in the development and implementation of decentralized data solutions. He has a strong background in blockchain technology and is actively involved in the convergence of cryptocurrency and artificial intelligence. Recently, he participated in ETHDenver, discussing the future of decentralized infrastructure and the importance of open access to data. His work focuses on creating innovative tools that enhance the user experience in the blockchain space.
Pete Rizzo is recognized as a leading historian of Bitcoin, having dedicated years to uncovering the intricate stories and events that shaped the cryptocurrency from its inception. He has explored various aspects of Bitcoin's development, including the early days of exchanges like Mt. Gox and the impact of the Silk Road. Rizzo is known for his insightful analysis and has contributed to the preservation of Bitcoin's history through his writings and social media presence, including his popular Bitcoin Legends Twitter threads. His work emphasizes the importance of remembering the foundational narratives of Bitcoin and the individuals involved in its evolution.

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0:00 20:31

Bitcoin as Pristine Collateral: Risk Redefined. @PeoplesReserve with @CJKonstantinos

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CJKonstantinos
Keywords
Bitcoin cryptocurrency financial products Bitcoin-backed mortgages collateral risk management real estate interest rates cross-collateral yield curve wealth preservation

During the darkest days of the last bear market, 5 years ago, I met my friend and guest @CJKonstantinos at The Green Flash in Florida. This guy is the definition of OG by doubling down and starting @peoplesreserve. He's creating Bitcoin-backed financial products that are reshaping the way we think about money.

Tomorrow we are both speaking at BitcoinDay Tampa, which always has a way of keeping the culture alive! See you all there!

Charlie 

Highlights:

🔒 Bitcoin’s Unmatched Strength: Discover how Bitcoin's undilutable supply creates a truly pristine collateral asset, reshaping loans and financial security.

🏡 Never Sell Your Bitcoin for Real Estate Again: CJ shares his unforgettable story of spending 100 Bitcoin on a house—and how @peoplesreserve now helps you secure your dream home without selling your BTC.

📊 Smart Adjustable Interest Rates: Learn how adjustable interest rates prevent liquidation and turn Bitcoin volatility into your advantage.

🚀 Cross-Collateral Revolution: Understand the groundbreaking combination of Bitcoin and real estate collateral introduced by @peoplesreserve, creating safer financial products.

🌐 Redefining the Yield Curve: CJ explains how Bitcoin is creating a new "risk-free" borrower class, challenging traditional finance forever.

Why Listen:
Explore the future of finance through the lens of Bitcoin-backed mortgages and collateral, directly from one of crypto's boldest innovators. Charlie and CJ unpack how Bitcoin is rapidly becoming the safest, most reliable foundation for wealth preservation and growth.

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Guests & Social:

CJ Konstantinos → @CJKonstantinos

People's Reserve → @peoplesreserve

Thank you for listening to The Charlie Shrem Show. For more free content and access to over 400 episodes, visit www.CharlieShrem.com.

0:00 34:26

From Bitcoin to Boat Storage: Joey Rosati on Diversifying Investments

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Joey Rosati
Keywords
Bitcoin cryptocurrency artificial intelligence web3 investments VC baby boomers traditional business tech integration entrepreneurship cash-flowing businesses hard money lending adult entertainment business diversification

I've gotten to know Joey Rosati (@rosaticorp) over the last 3 years working alonside hime in the VC trenches of Druid Ventures. Let me tell you, the VC world is a funny place and there are gems if you know where to find them. Joey is one of them. He knows that behind every successful business, it's all about people. In today's epic episode, Joey joins me to dive into the "silver tsunami," the massive shift as baby boomers retire, handing off old-school businesses to a younger generation. We talk about buying real-world companies like Dock Builder Supply and Boat Storage, the magic and messiness of mixing traditional business with new tech, and why true success often means blending hustle with humility.

Joey shares his own wild entrepreneurial journey—from scratch-off lottery chaos in Guatemala to investing in MLS soccer, and why he now loves "ugly," cash-flowing businesses. We get real about stress, purpose, and why hard money lending might just be the smartest investment out there.

We also talk about his role in preserving Tampa's adult entertainment legacy by taking over the world-famous 2001 Odyssey and Mons Venus strip clubs. We explore how he's balancing modernization with tradition, ensuring these establishments continue to thrive in a changing landscape.

Buckle up as we cover:

  • The real opportunities behind "boomer businesses."
  • Why software can't replace specialized trades.
  • Managing stress, staying sane, and finding purpose.
  • When (and how) to walk away from a bad deal.
  • Joey's top investment advice for 2025.

Connect with Joey on X: @rosaticorp

Thank you for listening to The Charlie Shrem Show. For more free content and access to over 400 episodes, visit www.CharlieShrem.com.

0:00 23:44

Bitcoin = Home: The Mortgage Revolution No One Saw Coming with Josip Rupena of Milo

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Josip Rupena
Keywords
Bitcoin mortgage crypto mortgages fintech wealth generation tokenizing mortgages AI in lending real estate financial freedom

Here’s a sentence I never thought I’d say: you can buy a house with your Bitcoin — without ever selling it.

That’s the financial revolution Josip Rupena is building. He’s the founder and CEO of Milo, the fintech startup that’s already issued over $60 million in crypto mortgages — loans backed by your Bitcoin, not your bank account. And here’s the kicker: they’ve never issued a single margin call.

In this episode, we break down how it works, what happens behind the scenes, and why this could be one of the most powerful wealth-generating tools in the Bitcoin ecosystem. We also talk about tokenizing mortgages, using AI to streamline lending, and the potential for a future where your Bitcoin unlocks real-world utility — like homes, yield, and financial freedom.

This is a rare mix of macro insight, startup strategy, and a deep dive into how crypto is transforming the mortgage game.

This episode contains strong language.

📚 Mentioned:

Milo Crypto Mortgagewww.milo.io

Custodians: Coinbase & BitGo

Bybit Hack (Largest Hack in History)

Tokenized Mortgages & Yield Products

Real Estate + Bitcoin as a Dual-Asset Lending Model

AI Tools in Underwriting and Client Onboarding

US Housing Inventory Trends (2024–2025)

✉️ Feedback or guest ideas?

Email Charlie directly and find episodes and transcripts at CharlieShrem.com

Thank you for listening to The Charlie Shrem Show. For more free content and access to over 400 episodes, visit www.CharlieShrem.com.

0:00 17:32

Crypto, AI Agents, and the Future of Decentralized Infrastructure with Chris “Jinx” Jenkins

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Chris Jinx Jenkins
Keywords
crypto AI decentralized infrastructure Pocket Network Foundation Shannon upgrade agentic systems LLMs censorship-resistant data delivery B2B tools data licensing centralized APIs

My buddy Chris Jenkins just got back from ETHDenver, and he’s buzzing about the convergence of crypto and AI.

He’s the head of operations at the Pocket Network Foundation, and right now, they’re gearing up for their biggest protocol upgrade ever: Shannon. What they’re doing is wild — opening up full permissionless access to decentralized data, from blockchain RPC calls to AI models, Tor nodes, and everything in between.

We talk about agentic systems, LLMs, censorship-resistant data delivery, and why the future of open infrastructure needs crypto tokens to work at all. We also get into what it takes to build B2B tools that feel like B2C, why content creators (like podcasters) should be thinking about data licensing, and why the days of centralized APIs and broken bridges may be numbered.

This one’s nerdy, future-forward, and full of practical examples for how it’s all being built right now.

This episode contains strong language.

📚 Mentioned:

Pocket Network Foundationpokt.network

ETHDenver 2025

Shannon Upgrade (Pocket Network’s protocol upgrade)

fly.pieter.com – Massive AI flight sim built with LLMs

Tornado Cash and Censorship Resistance

Decentralized RPC and Open Data Infrastructure

Drag-and-Drop LLM Interfaces

✉️ Thoughts? Guest suggestions?

Email Charlie directly and find more episodes at CharlieShrem.com

Thank you for listening to The Charlie Shrem Show. For more free content and access to over 400 episodes, visit www.CharlieShrem.com.

0:00 45:03

Silk Road to Satoshi: Digging Up Bitcoin’s Buried Past with Pete Rizzo

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Pete Rizzo
Keywords
Bitcoin history Pete Rizzo Silk Road Satoshi Nakamoto Mt. Gox Ross Ulbricht Julian Assange Bitcoin archives cryptocurrency digital history

Pete Rizzo Thinks We're Losing Bitcoin's History. I'm Helping Him Fix That.

Pete Rizzo’s been called Bitcoin’s historian — and after this conversation, you’ll understand why.

He’s spent the past few years diving deep into the stories, people, and drama that built Bitcoin from nothing into a global force. We talk about that work — the threads, the archives, the stories that never made it into the headlines — and how much of our history is already at risk of being forgotten.

This one goes deep: early Mt. Gox days, the Silk Road fallout, Ross Ulbricht, Julian Assange, the Dragon’s Den Slack channel, Bitcoin IRC logs, and even a theory that maybe Satoshi was Julian himself. There’s a lot here — from serious analysis to our own untold stories.

We also get personal: Rizzo opens up about why preserving this history became his mission, and I share how prison, books, and a Muslim roommate changed how I see the world — and Bitcoin.

This episode contains strong language.

Mentioned:

Pete Rizzo’s “Bitcoin Legends” Twitter threads

The Genesis Book by Jonathan Bier

The Satoshi Affair by Andrew O’Hagan

Assange’s RubberHose encryption protocol

Blockworks’ Supply Shock Podcast

Follow Pete:

Twitter/X: @pete_rizzo_

Podcast: Supply Shock

Quotes:

"Bitcoin is the only asset where history actually matters — and yet we’re letting it disappear." 

"We treated Ross like a pariah. Now he’s a symbol. That didn’t happen overnight."

"People think Bitcoin started with Satoshi. It didn’t. It started with the people who kept it alive after Satoshi left."

"When I left prison, I was at zero — actually, below zero. But I came out with the most valuable thing: stories."

Thank you for listening to The Charlie Shrem Show. For more free content and access to over 400 episodes, visit www.CharlieShrem.com.

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