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Grit explores what it takes to create, build, and scale world-class organizations. It features weekly episodes highlighting the leaders who are pushing their companies to make a difference. This series is hosted by Joubin Mirzadegan, go to market operating partner at Kleiner Perkins, a venture capital firm investing in history-making founders.
Grit explores what it takes to create, build, and scale world-class organizations. It features weekly episodes highlighting the leaders who are pushing their companies to make a difference. This series is hosted by Joubin Mirzadegan, go to market operating partner at Kleiner Perkins, a venture capital firm investing in history-making founders.
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Bill Staples is the CEO of GitLab, a public, all-remote DevSecOps company trusted by more than half of the Fortune 100. He has spent 30 years redefining how the world writes, ships, and secures code, and is known for his expertise in software development, security, and leadership.
Bill Staples is the CEO of GitLab, a public, all-remote DevSecOps company trusted by more than half of the Fortune 100. He has spent 30 years redefining how the world writes, ships, and secures code, and is known for his expertise in software development, security, and leadership.
Sean Henry is the Co-Founder and CEO of Stord, a company that is building a logistics backbone for the next generation of commerce. He has led the company in scaling a national fulfillment network that moves 50 million packages annually and reaches 15% of U.S. households, utilizing AI to connect warehouses, middle-mile routes, and delivery promises.
Sean Henry is the Co-Founder and CEO of Stord, a company that is building a logistics backbone for the next generation of commerce. He has led the company in scaling a national fulfillment network that moves 50 million packages annually and reaches 15% of U.S. households, utilizing AI to connect warehouses, middle-mile routes, and delivery promises.
Eric S.. Yuan is the Founder and CEO of Zoom, a leading video communications platform that became essential during the COVID-19 pandemic. He is known for his focus on velocity, culture, and innovation in the tech industry.
Eric S.. Yuan is the Founder and CEO of Zoom, a leading video communications platform that became essential during the COVID-19 pandemic. He is known for his focus on velocity, culture, and innovation in the tech industry.
Bret Taylor is a tech executive and entrepreneur, known for co-creating Google Maps and leading major tech companies including Facebook, Salesforce, and OpenAI. He is the co-founder of Sierra, a new company focused on AI.
Bret Taylor is a tech executive and entrepreneur, known for co-creating Google Maps and leading major tech companies including Facebook, Salesforce, and OpenAI. He is the co-founder of Sierra, a new company focused on AI.
Chris Urmson is the Co-Founder and CEO of Aurora, with over 20 years of experience in autonomous driving technology. He previously worked at Carnegie Mellon's DARPA Grand Challenge team and was a co-founder of Google's self-driving car project, now Waymo.
Chris Urmson is the Co-Founder and CEO of Aurora, with over 20 years of experience in autonomous driving technology. He previously worked at Carnegie Mellon's DARPA Grand Challenge team and was a co-founder of Google's self-driving car project, now Waymo.
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GitLab’s CEO on Why the Next Great Developer Might Not Write Code | Bill Staples
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Bill Staples
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software developmentDevSecOpsremote workAI in codingsecurity in softwareleadership in techcompany culture
Bill Staples has spent 30 years redefining how the world writes, ships, and secures code.
On this week’s Grit, the GitLab CEO shares what it takes to lead a public, all-remote DevSecOps company trusted by more than half of the Fortune 100.
He breaks down the discipline of managing energy instead of hours, why weekly operating cadences beat quarterly plans, and how AI will 10Ă— software engineers by auto-debugging code and closing security gaps.
Bill Staples has spent 30 years redefining how the world writes, ships, and secures code.
On this week’s Grit, the GitLab CEO shares what it takes to lead a public, all-remote DevSecOps company trusted by more than half of the Fortune 100.
He breaks down the discipline of managing energy instead of hours, why weekly operating cadences beat quarterly plans, and how AI will 10Ă— software engineers by auto-debugging code and closing security gaps.
Stord’s Plan to Take on Amazon’s Logistics Advantage | Sean Henry
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Sean Henry
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logisticsfulfillment networkAI in logisticse-commercesupply chainwarehouse connectivitydelivery systems
What does it take to build the logistics backbone for the next generation of commerce?
Sean Henry, founder and CEO of Stord, joins Kleiner Perkins partner Ilya Fushman and Grit host Joubin Mirzadegan to talk about scaling a national fulfillment network that now moves 50 million packages a year and reaches 15% of U.S. households.
They explore how Stored is using AI to connect warehouses, middle-mile routes, and delivery promises into one smart system. The goal: to give every brand an Amazon Prime-like advantage.
What does it take to build the logistics backbone for the next generation of commerce?
Sean Henry, founder and CEO of Stord, joins Kleiner Perkins partner Ilya Fushman and Grit host Joubin Mirzadegan to talk about scaling a national fulfillment network that now moves 50 million packages a year and reaches 15% of U.S. households.
They explore how Stored is using AI to connect warehouses, middle-mile routes, and delivery promises into one smart system. The goal: to give every brand an Amazon Prime-like advantage.
Family, Focus, and 350M Users: Inside Zoom with Eric Yuan
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Eric S. Yuan
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ZoomEric Yuanvirtual meetingsAIculture refreshfamily-first ethostech competitionleadership during COVIDscaling organizations
Eric Yuan turned a simple belief into Zoom, the platform that kept the world moving through a once-in-a-century shutdown and redefined modern work.Â
On this episode of Grit, the Zoom CEO shares why velocity beats size, how a family-first ethos powered his leadership during COVID, and why the coming wave of AI dwarfs the original internet boom.Â
He details how he’s refreshing Zoom’s culture for 7,500 people, opting for virtual deal calls over in person meetings, settling into life as an empty-nester, and keeping Zoom nimble enough to outpace Big Tech and the next wave of AI startups.
Guest: Eric S. Yuan, Founder & CEO of Zoom
Chapters:Â
00:00 Trailer
00:44 Introduction
01:47 Walking with swagger
03:48 Extremely exciting moment
10:05 Classic innovators’ dilemma
12:59 Laser-focused bandwidth
17:56 Family first: lead by example
22:09 Everybody was doing their road shows
25:34 The entire world was dependent
28:04 Community care
31:57 Valuation and a co-founder
35:17 A lot of unhappy days
39:25 Building Zoom for consumers
46:57 Holograms?
52:01 Home
53:23 Huge competition, high velocity
1:00:33 Where companies get wrong
1:04:52 Giving back
1:13:12 Who Zoom is hiring
1:13:24 What “grit” means to Eric
1:14:24 Outro
Mentioned in this episode: Webex by Cisco, Glean, Apple, HP, Netscape, Yahoo, Brian Armstrong, Emilie Choi, Coinbase, New Limit, Elon Musk, Windy Hill, Magic Leap, Rony Abovitz, Jony Ive, OpenAI ChatGPT, Bill McDermott, ServiceNow, Carl Eschenbach
Eric Yuan turned a simple belief into Zoom, the platform that kept the world moving through a once-in-a-century shutdown and redefined modern work.Â
On this episode of Grit, the Zoom CEO shares why velocity beats size, how a family-first ethos powered his leadership during COVID, and why the coming wave of AI dwarfs the original internet boom.Â
He details how he’s refreshing Zoom’s culture for 7,500 people, opting for virtual deal calls over in person meetings, settling into life as an empty-nester, and keeping Zoom nimble enough to outpace Big Tech and the next wave of AI startups.
Guest: Eric S. Yuan, Founder & CEO of Zoom
Chapters:Â
00:00 Trailer
00:44 Introduction
01:47 Walking with swagger
03:48 Extremely exciting moment
10:05 Classic innovators’ dilemma
12:59 Laser-focused bandwidth
17:56 Family first: lead by example
22:09 Everybody was doing their road shows
25:34 The entire world was dependent
28:04 Community care
31:57 Valuation and a co-founder
35:17 A lot of unhappy days
39:25 Building Zoom for consumers
46:57 Holograms?
52:01 Home
53:23 Huge competition, high velocity
1:00:33 Where companies get wrong
1:04:52 Giving back
1:13:12 Who Zoom is hiring
1:13:24 What “grit” means to Eric
1:14:24 Outro
Mentioned in this episode: Webex by Cisco, Glean, Apple, HP, Netscape, Yahoo, Brian Armstrong, Emilie Choi, Coinbase, New Limit, Elon Musk, Windy Hill, Magic Leap, Rony Abovitz, Jony Ive, OpenAI ChatGPT, Bill McDermott, ServiceNow, Carl Eschenbach
Bret Taylor’s Journey Leading Salesforce, Sierra & OpenAI
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Bret Taylor
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Silicon ValleyAIOpenAISalesforceGoogle MapsStartupsVenture CapitalLeadershipInnovationProduct Development
Over the past two decades, Bret Taylor has quietly helped shape the arc of Silicon Valley.
From co-creating Google Maps to steering Facebook, Salesforce, and OpenAI, he’s been behind some of the most consequential products in tech. Now, with his new company Sierra, he’s starting from zero—again.
In this conversation, Bret opens up about how founders navigate identity, why the best ideas often come from everyday friction, and how staying relentlessly focused can unlock real momentum in AI.
Guest: Bret Taylor, Co-Founder of Sierra
Chapters: 00:00 Trailer 00:49 Introduction 01:57 Saving OpenAI 09:15 Overwhelming yet capable of a lot 13:36 Father and founder 16:49 History is written by the victors 22:13 How you price matters 35:58 Stickiest piece of software 49:48 The first realtime social network 55:34 Facebook CTO who rewrote Google Maps 1:02:10 Least known, most impressive 1:11:39 The best way to predict the future 1:16:22 Most personally passionate 1:21:22 Currency of reputation 1:27:17 Away from work 1:28:35 Who Sierra is hiring 1:28:58 What “grit” means to Bret 1:29:18 Outro
Mentioned in this episode: Google Maps, Salesforce, OpenAI ChatGPT, Meta Facebook, X (formerly Twitter), Sam Altman, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Google, Marissa Mayer, Excite, MSN, AltaVista, Amazon, Harvey, Airbnb, Coinbase, Apple, John Doerr, Cursor, Codeium Windsurf, Perplexity, xAI, Kleenex, Amazon Web Services (AWS), FriendFeed, Tumblr, Kevin Gibbs, Google Maps, Yelp, Trulia, iOS App Store, Blackberry, Facebook Messenger, Marvel Avengers, Slack, Quip, Leonardo da Vinci, Clay Bavor, Microsoft, Eric Schmidt, Alan Kay, Brian Armstrong, Brian Chesky, Shopify, SiriusXM, Patrick Collison
Over the past two decades, Bret Taylor has quietly helped shape the arc of Silicon Valley.
From co-creating Google Maps to steering Facebook, Salesforce, and OpenAI, he’s been behind some of the most consequential products in tech. Now, with his new company Sierra, he’s starting from zero—again.
In this conversation, Bret opens up about how founders navigate identity, why the best ideas often come from everyday friction, and how staying relentlessly focused can unlock real momentum in AI.
Guest: Bret Taylor, Co-Founder of Sierra
Chapters: 00:00 Trailer 00:49 Introduction 01:57 Saving OpenAI 09:15 Overwhelming yet capable of a lot 13:36 Father and founder 16:49 History is written by the victors 22:13 How you price matters 35:58 Stickiest piece of software 49:48 The first realtime social network 55:34 Facebook CTO who rewrote Google Maps 1:02:10 Least known, most impressive 1:11:39 The best way to predict the future 1:16:22 Most personally passionate 1:21:22 Currency of reputation 1:27:17 Away from work 1:28:35 Who Sierra is hiring 1:28:58 What “grit” means to Bret 1:29:18 Outro
Mentioned in this episode: Google Maps, Salesforce, OpenAI ChatGPT, Meta Facebook, X (formerly Twitter), Sam Altman, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Google, Marissa Mayer, Excite, MSN, AltaVista, Amazon, Harvey, Airbnb, Coinbase, Apple, John Doerr, Cursor, Codeium Windsurf, Perplexity, xAI, Kleenex, Amazon Web Services (AWS), FriendFeed, Tumblr, Kevin Gibbs, Google Maps, Yelp, Trulia, iOS App Store, Blackberry, Facebook Messenger, Marvel Avengers, Slack, Quip, Leonardo da Vinci, Clay Bavor, Microsoft, Eric Schmidt, Alan Kay, Brian Armstrong, Brian Chesky, Shopify, SiriusXM, Patrick Collison
Inside Aurora’s Push to Make Autonomous Trucking Real | Chris Urmson
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Chris Urmson
Keywords
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autonomous drivingdriverless truckingdeep techsafetyinfrastructureself-driving carsAuroraWaymoDARPA Grand Challenge
Chris Urmson has spent the last 20 years pushing the limits of autonomous driving—first at Carnegie Mellon’s DARPA Grand Challenge team, then as co-founder of Google’s self-driving car project, now Waymo.
On this week’s episode, the Aurora CEO retraces that journey—from building robot cars in the desert to leading a public company pioneering driverless trucking.
He shares why autonomy was always a matter of when, not if, how he handled a high-profile departure from Waymo, and what it takes to build at the intersection of deep tech, safety, and infrastructure.
Now eight years into Aurora, Urmson says the future he’s been chasing is finally within reach.
Guest: Chris Urmson, Co-Founder & CEO of Aurora
Chapters: 00:00 Trailer 00:43 Introduction 01:59 FSD: are we there? 14:31 The competition, a million dollar check from LA to LV 22:50 Dream like an amateur, execute like a pro 32:30 Operate with integrity 42:49 The future is here, unevenly distributed 49:36 Underestimated decisions, minimizing regrets 1:03:55 Retaining value 1:16:45 Integrating self-driving 1:28:20 Lifer 1:29:25 Who Aurora is hiring 1:29:53 What “grit” means to Chris 1:30:15 Outro
Mentioned in this episode: Waymo, Google, Rivian, Dmitri Dolgov, Uber, Tesla, The DARPA Grand Challenge, Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, United States Department of Defense, Carnegie Mellon University, Stanford University, FedEx, Werner Enterprises, Hirschbach, Schneider Electric, Larry Page, Sergey Brin, Sebastian Thrun, Batman, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Anthony Levandowski, Donald Trump, Apple iPhone, Airbnb, Blackmore, Stripe, Titan, Ford, Volkswagen, RJ Scaringe, Peterbilt Motors Company, The Volvo Group, Continental AG, Dara Khosrowshahi
Chris Urmson has spent the last 20 years pushing the limits of autonomous driving—first at Carnegie Mellon’s DARPA Grand Challenge team, then as co-founder of Google’s self-driving car project, now Waymo.
On this week’s episode, the Aurora CEO retraces that journey—from building robot cars in the desert to leading a public company pioneering driverless trucking.
He shares why autonomy was always a matter of when, not if, how he handled a high-profile departure from Waymo, and what it takes to build at the intersection of deep tech, safety, and infrastructure.
Now eight years into Aurora, Urmson says the future he’s been chasing is finally within reach.
Guest: Chris Urmson, Co-Founder & CEO of Aurora
Chapters: 00:00 Trailer 00:43 Introduction 01:59 FSD: are we there? 14:31 The competition, a million dollar check from LA to LV 22:50 Dream like an amateur, execute like a pro 32:30 Operate with integrity 42:49 The future is here, unevenly distributed 49:36 Underestimated decisions, minimizing regrets 1:03:55 Retaining value 1:16:45 Integrating self-driving 1:28:20 Lifer 1:29:25 Who Aurora is hiring 1:29:53 What “grit” means to Chris 1:30:15 Outro
Mentioned in this episode: Waymo, Google, Rivian, Dmitri Dolgov, Uber, Tesla, The DARPA Grand Challenge, Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, United States Department of Defense, Carnegie Mellon University, Stanford University, FedEx, Werner Enterprises, Hirschbach, Schneider Electric, Larry Page, Sergey Brin, Sebastian Thrun, Batman, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Anthony Levandowski, Donald Trump, Apple iPhone, Airbnb, Blackmore, Stripe, Titan, Ford, Volkswagen, RJ Scaringe, Peterbilt Motors Company, The Volvo Group, Continental AG, Dara Khosrowshahi
