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Finding Brave with Kathy Caprino helps listeners access the courage they need to honor their true passions, talents, and values in life and work, and leverage them for more success and happiness. Listen in as Kathy and her inspiring, top-level guests share a wealth of strategies and tips for building a braver, more rewarding life and career.
Finding Brave with Kathy Caprino helps listeners access the courage they need to honor their true passions, talents, and values in life and work, and leverage them for more success and happiness. Listen in as Kathy and her inspiring, top-level guests share a wealth of strategies and tips for building a braver, more rewarding life and career.
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Robyne Hanley-Dafoe is an internationally acclaimed speaker and resiliency expert with over 18 years of experience in education and psychology. She is the author of 'Calm Within the Storm' and 'Stress Wisely,' and is renowned for her transformative approach to stress management and personal wellness.
Robyne Hanley-Dafoe is an internationally acclaimed speaker and resiliency expert with over 18 years of experience in education and psychology. She is the author of 'Calm Within the Storm' and 'Stress Wisely,' and is renowned for her transformative approach to stress management and personal wellness.
Jenny Wood is a New York Times bestselling author, speaker, and former Google executive who built one of Google's largest career development programs. Her book, 'Wild Courage: Go After What You Want and Get It,' explores nine controversial traits that ambitious professionals can reclaim and reframe to become better leaders and reach their full potential. With a background in research at Harvard Business School and features in Forbes, HBR, and Bloomberg, Jenny offers insights into leading with boldness and reclaiming negative traits as sources of power.
Jenny Wood is a New York Times bestselling author, speaker, and former Google executive who built one of Google's largest career development programs. Her book, 'Wild Courage: Go After What You Want and Get It,' explores nine controversial traits that ambitious professionals can reclaim and reframe to become better leaders and reach their full potential. With a background in research at Harvard Business School and features in Forbes, HBR, and Bloomberg, Jenny offers insights into leading with boldness and reclaiming negative traits as sources of power.
Jordan Friedman is a renowned stress management expert known as The Stress Coach. With over 30 years of experience, he has developed a science-backed, creative approach to managing stress that has helped thousands of individuals reduce anxiety, improve sleep, and regain control over their lives. He served as the Director of Columbia University's Health Education Program and is the author of 'The Stress Managers Manual.' Additionally, Jordan is the voice behind 'The Chill Factory' podcast and app, where he combines evidence-based techniques with creativity and humor. His unique offerings include guided 'chill tours' through Central Park, designed to help groups manage stress in enjoyable and unexpected ways.
Jordan Friedman is a renowned stress management expert known as The Stress Coach. With over 30 years of experience, he has developed a science-backed, creative approach to managing stress that has helped thousands of individuals reduce anxiety, improve sleep, and regain control over their lives. He served as the Director of Columbia University's Health Education Program and is the author of 'The Stress Managers Manual.' Additionally, Jordan is the voice behind 'The Chill Factory' podcast and app, where he combines evidence-based techniques with creativity and humor. His unique offerings include guided 'chill tours' through Central Park, designed to help groups manage stress in enjoyable and unexpected ways.
Octavia Goredema is an inspiring author and career coach, known for her work as the CEO of Fire Memos. She is a passionate advocate for helping individuals unlock their full potential at work. Octavia is the author of 'PREP, PUSH, PIVOT: Essential Career Strategies for Underrepresented Women' and has hosted two Audible Originals, 'Brand Yourself for Success' and 'How to Change Careers'. She has been featured on the podcast Finding Brave in Episode 248, where she shared insights on personal branding and professional visibility.
Octavia Goredema is an inspiring author and career coach, known for her work as the CEO of Fire Memos. She is a passionate advocate for helping individuals unlock their full potential at work. Octavia is the author of 'PREP, PUSH, PIVOT: Essential Career Strategies for Underrepresented Women' and has hosted two Audible Originals, 'Brand Yourself for Success' and 'How to Change Careers'. She has been featured on the podcast Finding Brave in Episode 248, where she shared insights on personal branding and professional visibility.
Jon Lyndon is a LinkedIn insider and the founder and CEO of Lyndon Consulting. With nearly a decade of experience at LinkedIn, he specializes in helping global companies and executive leaders develop effective LinkedIn strategies. Jon also works with professional athletes transitioning out of sports, guiding them in building strong personal brands. His expertise includes navigating LinkedIn for job searches, enhancing personal branding, and fostering human connections through the platform.
Jon Lyndon is a LinkedIn insider and the founder and CEO of Lyndon Consulting. With nearly a decade of experience at LinkedIn, he specializes in helping global companies and executive leaders develop effective LinkedIn strategies. Jon also works with professional athletes transitioning out of sports, guiding them in building strong personal brands. His expertise includes navigating LinkedIn for job searches, enhancing personal branding, and fostering human connections through the platform.
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Modern life bombards us with stresses our bodies are not physically equipped (or evolved) to handle. It’s no wonder so many of us are overwhelmed and struggling. Luckily, there are effective strategies and tools to help manage and reduce stress. You just need to learn how to tap into them.
In today’s conversation, you’ll hear Robyne share her expert insights as we delve into practical methods for building resilience and finding balance amidst the chaos. We discuss the five pillars of resilience, from belonging and acceptance to hope and humor, before unpacking the pivotal role of each in maintaining our well-being. Robyne also shares her powerful thoughts on self-compassion, why you can’t shame yourself into doing better, and how our historical ability to adapt continuously inspires her to feel hope for the future.
Tune in to discover how to break free from the stress cycle, build periods of rest into your routine, and harness emotional intelligence to create a healthier, happier life!
Key Highlights From This Episode:
Defining resiliency and our innate ability to show up for those who depend on us. [05:32]
Unpacking the power of hope and how it fits into resiliency. [08:28]
Signs of toxic positivity and the self-awareness required to reach your goals. [13:17]
Why we aren’t physically equipped for modern life and how to build in periods of rest. [15:52]
Tuning into self-awareness and your body’s attempts to reregulate. [21:17]
The five pillars of resilience: belonging, perspective, acceptance, hope, and humor. [23:47]
How to acknowledge and address deep existential fears. [35:31]
Where you can find Dr. Robyne and her latest book online. [39:04]
Take a 10% discount off of Kathy’s 6-session Career & Leadership Breakthrough coaching program
IS IT FINALLY TIME FOR A TRUE SHIFT IN YOUR CAREER AND LEADERSHIP?
Do you feel ready and excited to make the essential changes you’ve been longing for in your career but need some empowering support to begin?
That help is here!
Join me as I coach and guide you through powerful, proven steps that unlock your fullest and most rewarding career potential. For a limited time, take advantage of my 10% discount for you, my amazing Finding Brave listeners.
Participate from the comfort of your own home, at your own pace. Now’s the time. Don’t wait! Build the career you’ve been longing for this year. I’d love to support you.
REGISTER NOW and use the 10% discount code BRAVEPOD10 to save 10% on these programs TODAY!
Join us June 13th, 2025 for a LIVE, calming in-person retreat in NYC’s iconic Central Park - hosted by Kathy Caprino and Jordan Friedman
Connect with Your Inner Calm on June 13th with Kathy and Jordan, in NYC’s iconic Central Park
I’m thrilled to share an event that’s truly special coming up on June 13th, designed for folks who would like a stress-reducing, calm and enlivening retreat experience in NYC’s Central Park!
For the first time, I'm teaming up with my dear friend and top stress management expert, Jordan Friedman (who I’ve had the honor of interviewing on my podcast twice now) to offer a live retreat and tour experience on June 13th in the heart of New York City's iconic Central Park.
We’ll start with a 2 and ½ -hour walking tour guided by Jordan (who is also a fabulous licensed New York City tour guide) of some of the most beautiful and relaxing spots in the park, followed by an energizing and supportive Q&A session, where Jordan and I will help you directly address and navigate some of the biggest stressors you’re facing today — in your life, career, and family.
We cannot wait to spend this special and meaningful time with you, surrounded by the nature, beauty and deep calm of the urban oasis of Central Park.
“Not everything happens for a reason. Some things are just awful. It's what you do with the pieces afterward that’s really going to talk about the quality of your life.” — @dr_robynehd [0:09:47]
“Motivational quotes only work if you put in the work. Simply sticking those post-it notes on your mirror [isn’t] going to do anything unless you action it.” — @dr_robynehd [0:15:02]
“We are very much addicted to this stress-cycle behavior that I'm seeing in my work right now – we were meant to have a lot more ease.” — @dr_robynehd [0:17:16]
“Living the dream shouldn't kill you. And it was burning me out.” — @dr_robynehd [0:19:40]
“You can’t hate yourself healthy. That's probably the biggest misconception about all of this. We can't shame ourselves into doing better. We can't guilt ourselves into changing behavior.” — @dr_robynehd [0:23:01]
“Historically, as a species, we have been able to rally. We have grown, we've learned, we've evolved, we've adapted, and I am so hope-filled for the future for my children, [and] for my grandchildren.” — @dr_robynehd [0:36:17]
Watch our Finding Brave episodes on YouTube!
Don’t forget – you can experience each Finding Brave episode in both audio and video formats! Check out new and recent episodes on my YouTube channel at YouTube.com/kathycaprino. And please leave us a comment and a thumbs up if you like the show!
Kathy Caprino AI is here! Don’t forget to take full advantage of Kathy’s new digital coaching tool - Kathy Caprino AI. Get instant, personalized support and answers to your pressing career, leadership, and professional growth questions, anytime you need it - 24/7 - via audio chat or text.
Modern life bombards us with stresses our bodies are not physically equipped (or evolved) to handle. It’s no wonder so many of us are overwhelmed and struggling. Luckily, there are effective strategies and tools to help manage and reduce stress. You just need to learn how to tap into them.
In today’s conversation, you’ll hear Robyne share her expert insights as we delve into practical methods for building resilience and finding balance amidst the chaos. We discuss the five pillars of resilience, from belonging and acceptance to hope and humor, before unpacking the pivotal role of each in maintaining our well-being. Robyne also shares her powerful thoughts on self-compassion, why you can’t shame yourself into doing better, and how our historical ability to adapt continuously inspires her to feel hope for the future.
Tune in to discover how to break free from the stress cycle, build periods of rest into your routine, and harness emotional intelligence to create a healthier, happier life!
Key Highlights From This Episode:
Defining resiliency and our innate ability to show up for those who depend on us. [05:32]
Unpacking the power of hope and how it fits into resiliency. [08:28]
Signs of toxic positivity and the self-awareness required to reach your goals. [13:17]
Why we aren’t physically equipped for modern life and how to build in periods of rest. [15:52]
Tuning into self-awareness and your body’s attempts to reregulate. [21:17]
The five pillars of resilience: belonging, perspective, acceptance, hope, and humor. [23:47]
How to acknowledge and address deep existential fears. [35:31]
Where you can find Dr. Robyne and her latest book online. [39:04]
Take a 10% discount off of Kathy’s 6-session Career & Leadership Breakthrough coaching program
IS IT FINALLY TIME FOR A TRUE SHIFT IN YOUR CAREER AND LEADERSHIP?
Do you feel ready and excited to make the essential changes you’ve been longing for in your career but need some empowering support to begin?
That help is here!
Join me as I coach and guide you through powerful, proven steps that unlock your fullest and most rewarding career potential. For a limited time, take advantage of my 10% discount for you, my amazing Finding Brave listeners.
Participate from the comfort of your own home, at your own pace. Now’s the time. Don’t wait! Build the career you’ve been longing for this year. I’d love to support you.
REGISTER NOW and use the 10% discount code BRAVEPOD10 to save 10% on these programs TODAY!
Join us June 13th, 2025 for a LIVE, calming in-person retreat in NYC’s iconic Central Park - hosted by Kathy Caprino and Jordan Friedman
Connect with Your Inner Calm on June 13th with Kathy and Jordan, in NYC’s iconic Central Park
I’m thrilled to share an event that’s truly special coming up on June 13th, designed for folks who would like a stress-reducing, calm and enlivening retreat experience in NYC’s Central Park!
For the first time, I'm teaming up with my dear friend and top stress management expert, Jordan Friedman (who I’ve had the honor of interviewing on my podcast twice now) to offer a live retreat and tour experience on June 13th in the heart of New York City's iconic Central Park.
We’ll start with a 2 and ½ -hour walking tour guided by Jordan (who is also a fabulous licensed New York City tour guide) of some of the most beautiful and relaxing spots in the park, followed by an energizing and supportive Q&A session, where Jordan and I will help you directly address and navigate some of the biggest stressors you’re facing today — in your life, career, and family.
We cannot wait to spend this special and meaningful time with you, surrounded by the nature, beauty and deep calm of the urban oasis of Central Park.
“Not everything happens for a reason. Some things are just awful. It's what you do with the pieces afterward that’s really going to talk about the quality of your life.” — @dr_robynehd [0:09:47]
“Motivational quotes only work if you put in the work. Simply sticking those post-it notes on your mirror [isn’t] going to do anything unless you action it.” — @dr_robynehd [0:15:02]
“We are very much addicted to this stress-cycle behavior that I'm seeing in my work right now – we were meant to have a lot more ease.” — @dr_robynehd [0:17:16]
“Living the dream shouldn't kill you. And it was burning me out.” — @dr_robynehd [0:19:40]
“You can’t hate yourself healthy. That's probably the biggest misconception about all of this. We can't shame ourselves into doing better. We can't guilt ourselves into changing behavior.” — @dr_robynehd [0:23:01]
“Historically, as a species, we have been able to rally. We have grown, we've learned, we've evolved, we've adapted, and I am so hope-filled for the future for my children, [and] for my grandchildren.” — @dr_robynehd [0:36:17]
Watch our Finding Brave episodes on YouTube!
Don’t forget – you can experience each Finding Brave episode in both audio and video formats! Check out new and recent episodes on my YouTube channel at YouTube.com/kathycaprino. And please leave us a comment and a thumbs up if you like the show!
Kathy Caprino AI is here! Don’t forget to take full advantage of Kathy’s new digital coaching tool - Kathy Caprino AI. Get instant, personalized support and answers to your pressing career, leadership, and professional growth questions, anytime you need it - 24/7 - via audio chat or text.
0:0042:26
309: How to Lead With Wild Courage
Guests
Guests of this podcast episode
Jenny Wood
Keywords
Keywords of this podcast episode
leadershipcouragepersonal developmentcareer growthself-reinventionboldnesstraitsfear of failurementorshipgrowth mindset
Too often, the traits we’re taught to tone down are the very ones that can drive our boldest breakthroughs. In this powerful episode, we explore what it truly means to lead and live with wild courage. Dismantling conventional career advice, Jenny Wood champions a more audacious path to success, one built on traits long considered too disruptive or inappropriate to embrace.
Jenny Wood is a New York Times bestselling author, speaker, and former Google executive who built one of the company’s largest career development programs. Her new book, Wild Courage: Go After What You Want and Get It, dives into nine controversial traits, from reckless to bossy, that ambitious professionals can reclaim and reframe to be better leaders and reach their full potential. With a background in research at Harvard Business School and features in Forbes, HBR, and Bloomberg, Jenny brings both insight and irreverence to the table, along with a serious talent for cutting through the noise.
Through stories both personal and professional, Jenny illustrates how fear of failure, uncertainty, and judgment often keeps us playing small. Whether it’s chasing down a stranger on a subway (now her husband), asking a C-suite executive for mentorship, or launching a career-defining program at Google, she shows how reclaiming so-called negative traits like "shameless" or "reckless" can become a source of power and clarity.
This episode is a candid, empowering reminder that growth begins on the edge of discomfort. Jenny shares tools to rewrite the internal stories that hold us back, and reframes boldness as a skill that can be practiced, not just a trait you’re born with.
If you’re ready to stop waiting for permission and start leading with more courage in your career and life, this conversation is a must-listen!
Key Highlights From This Episode:
What inspired Wild Courage and the bold subway moment that changed Jenny’s life. [04:35]
How fear showed up again and again in Jenny’s coaching with professionals. [07:41]
Enacting wild courage and why it might be more challenging for certain groups. [11:50]
The nine controversial traits of wild courage and how to reframe and reclaim them. [12:41]
How the seeds were planted for wild courage in Jenny’s childhood. [15:21]
Ways that shame holds us back and tips for de-shaming your language. [19:45]
A candid look at how overthinking fuels self-judgment and fear. [24:29]
Tools and internal resources to reframe fear, shame, and self-doubt. [27:15]
The reckless trait, why Jenny struggles with it, and how she’s learned to embrace it. [32:01]
Why we need to give ourselves permission to be selfish, reckless, and bossy. [36:53]
FINDING BRAVE PODCAST AD FOR KATHY AND JORDAN’S CENTRAL PARK RETREAT DATE - JUNE 13, 2025
Join us June 13th, 2025 for a LIVE, calming in-person retreat in NYC’s iconic Central Park - hosted by Kathy Caprino and Jordan Friedman
Connect with Your Inner Calm on June 13th with Kathy and Jordan, in NYC’s iconic Central Park
I’m thrilled to announce an event that’s truly special coming up on June 13th, designed for folks who would like a stress-reducing, calm and enlivening retreat experience in NYC’s Central Park!
For the first time, I'm teaming up with my dear friend and top stress management expert, Jordan Friedman (who I’ve had the honor of interviewing on my podcast twice now) to offer a live retreat and tour experience on June 13th in the heart of New York City's iconic Central Park.
We’ll start with an 2 and ½ -hour walking tour guided by Jordan (who is also a fabulous licensed New York City tour guide) of some of the most beautiful and relaxing spots in the park, followed by an energizing and supportive Q&A session, where Jordan and I will help you directly address and navigate some of the biggest stressors you’re facing today — in your life, career, and family.
We cannot wait to spend this special and meaningful time with you, surrounded by the nature, beauty, and deep calm of the urban oasis of Central Park.
Jordan and I would love to offer you this special experience on June 13th!
———————
READY FOR A HUGE PERSONAL SHIFT TO ACHIEVE MORE SUCCESS, IMPACT, AND FULFILLMENT IN YOUR CAREER THIS YEAR?
Work with Kathy and get hands-on, transformative CAREER & LEADERSHIP GROWTH COACHING SUPPORT today!
Are you ready for a big positive shift in how you’re working and what you’re achieving today in your career? Let’s make that happen for you!
In my 6-session Career & Leadership Breakthrough 1:1 coaching program, I help professionals create and achieve what they want most, which includes more confidence, impact, advancement, financial reward, and fulfillment.
I’ve worked with over 20,000 professionals across 6 continents, and before that, I served as a therapist, and before that, I was a corporate VP, managing multi-million dollar budgets and global initiatives.
I bring all of that experience to our work together, helping you build a new chapter that aligns with who you really are and what you’re ready to create.
And don’t forget to leverage Kathy Caprino AI - my new digital career coaching tool - for instant access to answers and guidance about your most pressing career and leadership growth challenges.
If you enjoy the book, we’d so appreciate your giving the book a positive rating and review on Amazon! And check out Kathy’s digital companion course The Most Powerful You, to help you close the 7 most damaging power gaps in the most effective way possible.
“The same theme kept coming up when people felt stuck [and] that theme was fear: fear of failure, fear of uncertainty, and fear of judgment [from] others.” — @itsjennywood[0:08:28]
“You don't need permission from somebody else to do these things, to take these bold actions.” — @itsjennywood[0:28:23]
“That same bravery, that same wild courage that pushed me to make that ask, is the same wild courage that pushes me to make other asks or requests or bold moves, and then sometimes they work out!” — @itsjennywood[0:31:33]
“It's better to learn from your mistakes than to waste time predicting the consequences of every possible decision or outcome. So, think fast and fearless, and if you're on the fence, do it.” — @itsjennywood[0:32:29]
“I have found that when I have been the most successful, it's [been] because I was willing to be on the edge of discomfort.” — @itsjennywood[0:32:53]
“There's this disconnect between what's real and what we feel, and that's why I say ‘we have to give permission to ourselves to be selfish, to be reckless, to be bossy.’” — @itsjennywood[0:39:02]
Watch ourFinding Braveepisodes on YouTube!
Don’t forget – you can experience each Finding Brave episode in both audio and video formats! Check out new and recent episodes on my YouTube channel at YouTube.com/kathycaprino. And please leave us a comment and a thumbs up if you like the show!
Too often, the traits we’re taught to tone down are the very ones that can drive our boldest breakthroughs. In this powerful episode, we explore what it truly means to lead and live with wild courage. Dismantling conventional career advice, Jenny Wood champions a more audacious path to success, one built on traits long considered too disruptive or inappropriate to embrace.
Jenny Wood is a New York Times bestselling author, speaker, and former Google executive who built one of the company’s largest career development programs. Her new book, Wild Courage: Go After What You Want and Get It, dives into nine controversial traits, from reckless to bossy, that ambitious professionals can reclaim and reframe to be better leaders and reach their full potential. With a background in research at Harvard Business School and features in Forbes, HBR, and Bloomberg, Jenny brings both insight and irreverence to the table, along with a serious talent for cutting through the noise.
Through stories both personal and professional, Jenny illustrates how fear of failure, uncertainty, and judgment often keeps us playing small. Whether it’s chasing down a stranger on a subway (now her husband), asking a C-suite executive for mentorship, or launching a career-defining program at Google, she shows how reclaiming so-called negative traits like "shameless" or "reckless" can become a source of power and clarity.
This episode is a candid, empowering reminder that growth begins on the edge of discomfort. Jenny shares tools to rewrite the internal stories that hold us back, and reframes boldness as a skill that can be practiced, not just a trait you’re born with.
If you’re ready to stop waiting for permission and start leading with more courage in your career and life, this conversation is a must-listen!
Key Highlights From This Episode:
What inspired Wild Courage and the bold subway moment that changed Jenny’s life. [04:35]
How fear showed up again and again in Jenny’s coaching with professionals. [07:41]
Enacting wild courage and why it might be more challenging for certain groups. [11:50]
The nine controversial traits of wild courage and how to reframe and reclaim them. [12:41]
How the seeds were planted for wild courage in Jenny’s childhood. [15:21]
Ways that shame holds us back and tips for de-shaming your language. [19:45]
A candid look at how overthinking fuels self-judgment and fear. [24:29]
Tools and internal resources to reframe fear, shame, and self-doubt. [27:15]
The reckless trait, why Jenny struggles with it, and how she’s learned to embrace it. [32:01]
Why we need to give ourselves permission to be selfish, reckless, and bossy. [36:53]
FINDING BRAVE PODCAST AD FOR KATHY AND JORDAN’S CENTRAL PARK RETREAT DATE - JUNE 13, 2025
Join us June 13th, 2025 for a LIVE, calming in-person retreat in NYC’s iconic Central Park - hosted by Kathy Caprino and Jordan Friedman
Connect with Your Inner Calm on June 13th with Kathy and Jordan, in NYC’s iconic Central Park
I’m thrilled to announce an event that’s truly special coming up on June 13th, designed for folks who would like a stress-reducing, calm and enlivening retreat experience in NYC’s Central Park!
For the first time, I'm teaming up with my dear friend and top stress management expert, Jordan Friedman (who I’ve had the honor of interviewing on my podcast twice now) to offer a live retreat and tour experience on June 13th in the heart of New York City's iconic Central Park.
We’ll start with an 2 and ½ -hour walking tour guided by Jordan (who is also a fabulous licensed New York City tour guide) of some of the most beautiful and relaxing spots in the park, followed by an energizing and supportive Q&A session, where Jordan and I will help you directly address and navigate some of the biggest stressors you’re facing today — in your life, career, and family.
We cannot wait to spend this special and meaningful time with you, surrounded by the nature, beauty, and deep calm of the urban oasis of Central Park.
Jordan and I would love to offer you this special experience on June 13th!
———————
READY FOR A HUGE PERSONAL SHIFT TO ACHIEVE MORE SUCCESS, IMPACT, AND FULFILLMENT IN YOUR CAREER THIS YEAR?
Work with Kathy and get hands-on, transformative CAREER & LEADERSHIP GROWTH COACHING SUPPORT today!
Are you ready for a big positive shift in how you’re working and what you’re achieving today in your career? Let’s make that happen for you!
In my 6-session Career & Leadership Breakthrough 1:1 coaching program, I help professionals create and achieve what they want most, which includes more confidence, impact, advancement, financial reward, and fulfillment.
I’ve worked with over 20,000 professionals across 6 continents, and before that, I served as a therapist, and before that, I was a corporate VP, managing multi-million dollar budgets and global initiatives.
I bring all of that experience to our work together, helping you build a new chapter that aligns with who you really are and what you’re ready to create.
And don’t forget to leverage Kathy Caprino AI - my new digital career coaching tool - for instant access to answers and guidance about your most pressing career and leadership growth challenges.
If you enjoy the book, we’d so appreciate your giving the book a positive rating and review on Amazon! And check out Kathy’s digital companion course The Most Powerful You, to help you close the 7 most damaging power gaps in the most effective way possible.
“The same theme kept coming up when people felt stuck [and] that theme was fear: fear of failure, fear of uncertainty, and fear of judgment [from] others.” — @itsjennywood[0:08:28]
“You don't need permission from somebody else to do these things, to take these bold actions.” — @itsjennywood[0:28:23]
“That same bravery, that same wild courage that pushed me to make that ask, is the same wild courage that pushes me to make other asks or requests or bold moves, and then sometimes they work out!” — @itsjennywood[0:31:33]
“It's better to learn from your mistakes than to waste time predicting the consequences of every possible decision or outcome. So, think fast and fearless, and if you're on the fence, do it.” — @itsjennywood[0:32:29]
“I have found that when I have been the most successful, it's [been] because I was willing to be on the edge of discomfort.” — @itsjennywood[0:32:53]
“There's this disconnect between what's real and what we feel, and that's why I say ‘we have to give permission to ourselves to be selfish, to be reckless, to be bossy.’” — @itsjennywood[0:39:02]
Watch ourFinding Braveepisodes on YouTube!
Don’t forget – you can experience each Finding Brave episode in both audio and video formats! Check out new and recent episodes on my YouTube channel at YouTube.com/kathycaprino. And please leave us a comment and a thumbs up if you like the show!
0:0052:16
308: Powerful Stress Management Approaches Designed for Times Like These
Guests
Guests of this podcast episode
Jordan Friedman
Keywords
Keywords of this podcast episode
stress managementanxietystress reduction methodsmental healthCentral Park Calm Retreatevidence-based techniquescommunity support
If your go-to stress strategies aren’t cutting it anymore, you’re not alone, and there’s a reason for that. Today on Finding Brave, we’re joined by deeply inspiring The Stress Coach, Jordan Friedman, to explore what really works for managing stress during high-anxiety times and why most stress-reduction methods miss the mark.
With over 30 years of experience, Jordan’s science-backed, creative approach has helped thousands reduce anxiety, improve sleep, and regain control. A former Director of Columbia University’s Health Education Program and author of The Stress Manager’s Manual, Jordan is also the voice behind The Chill Factory podcast and app. His unique work blends evidence-based techniques with creativity and humor, including offering guided "chill tours" through Central Park to help groups manage stress in fun, unexpected ways.
In this episode, we dig into why so many stress-reduction methods fail us during uncertain times and what we can do differently to support our nervous systems. Jordan breaks down what happens to the body and mind in extended states of anxiety and offers practical, sustainable strategies for managing stress.
Plus, you’ll get a sneak peek into our upcoming Central Park Calm Retreat on June 13th, 2025 - co-hosted by Jordan and myself - where participants will experience these transformative practices firsthand in the amazingly beautiful urban oasis of NYC’s Central Park.
Whether you're supporting a stressed-out team, raising anxious kids, or looking for ways to stay steady and nurture your own calm and wellbeing, this episode offers the clarity and calm you've been searching for!
Key Highlights From This Episode:
The remarkable personal story that led Jordan to his work in stress management. [05:11]
Hidden stressors in today’s unpredictable world and their impact on your health. [15:40]
How cutting back on news, TV, and social media can help ease stress. [20:39]
Why so many stress reduction methods fail (and what to do instead). [25:38]
Practical strategies for effective, long-term stress management. [30:03]
The science behind Jordan’s potent ‘Mod Squad’ stress-reduction technique. [35:11]
Ways that community and support help mitigate fear, anxiety, and uncertainty. [41:55]
How you can connect with your inner calm at the upcoming Central Park Retreat! [46:08]
JOIN US JUNE 13, 2025 for a LIVE, calming in-person retreat and tour in NYC’s iconic Central Park – hosted by Kathy Caprino and Jordan Friedman
Connect with Your Inner Calm on June 13th with Kathy and Jordan, in NYC’s iconic Central Park
I’m thrilled to share a truly special event coming up on June 13th, designed for folks who would like a stress-reducing, calm, and enlivening retreat experience in NYC’s Central Park!
For the first time, I'm teaming up with my dear friend and top stress management expert, Jordan Friedman (who I’ve had the honor of interviewing on my podcast twice now), to offer a live retreat and tour experience on June 13th in the heart of New York City's iconic Central Park.
We’ll start with a two and a half-hour walking tour guided by Jordan (who is also a fabulous licensed New York City tour guide) of some of the most beautiful and relaxing spots in the park, followed by an energizing and supportive Q&A session, where Jordan and I will help you directly address and navigate some of the biggest stressors you’re facing today — in your life, career, and family.
We cannot wait to spend this special and meaningful time with you, surrounded by the nature, beauty, and deep calm of the urban oasis of Central Park.
Jordan and I would love to be with you in this special experience on June 13th!
———————
WANT TO BECOME THE MOST CONFIDENT, POSITIVE, AND EMPOWERED VERSION OF YOU IN LIFE AND WORK - so you can thrive at the highest level AND help others reach their highest potential as well?
It’s not too late! My 8-week live training course - The Most Powerful You - starts May 15th but you can still join us. Click here to learn more and register for this transformative and life-affirming 8 weeks group couse!
READY FOR A HUGE PERSONAL SHIFT TO ACHIEVE MORE SUCCESS, IMPACT, AND FULFILLMENT IN YOUR CAREER THIS YEAR?
Work with Kathy in a private, 1:1 program and get hands-on, transformative CAREER & LEADERSHIP GROWTH COACHING SUPPORT today!
Are you ready for a big positive shift in how you’re working and what you’re achieving today in your career? Let’s make that happen for you!
In my acclaimed and highly rated 6-session Career & Leadership Breakthrough 1:1 coaching program, I help people create, experience and accomplish what they want most in life and work, which includes more confidence, impact, advancement, financial reward, fulfillment and meaning.
I’ve worked with over 20,000 professionals across 6 continents, and before that, I served as a therapist, and before that, I was a corporate VP, managing multi-million dollar budgets and global initiatives.
I bring all of that experience to our work together, helping you build a new chapter that aligns with who you really are and what you’re ready to create.
If you enjoy the book, we’d so appreciate your giving the book a positive rating and review on Amazon! And check out Kathy’s digital companion course The Most Powerful You, to help you close the 7 most damaging power gaps in the most effective way possible.
“Stress on its own is not a bad thing. Stress is really important. It’s a vital part of life. It saves us from getting hit by cars, it helps us focus on – solving problems. But when stress becomes a way of life instead of a part of life, – that’s when we see more of the problems.” — Jordan Friedman [0:20:13]
“Yes, meditating can help you feel calmer. It can take the edge off [your] stress and anxiety, but if that stress and anxiety continues to flow into your life – you might get into a situation where meditation isn’t enough.” — Jordan Friedman [0:26:52]
“Something we get wrong – is that we’re putting band aids on things that need more attention than a band aid.” — Jordan Friedman [0:27:25]
“We have great control over our fight or flight responses; maybe not initially when we’re first slammed with the stressor, but pretty soon after, the way we think about things [and] what we do can help us get back on our feet and move in a clearer, more confident, less stressed way.” — Jordan Friedman [0:34:37]
“It’s not only about changing your life situations to stop the fire hydrant of stress. It’s also doing things to – keep your roots solid; breathing, sleeping, exercise, all of it.” — Jordan Friedman [0:38:34]
“Reliable, predictable things in your life, [like] going to bed and waking up at the same time each day, – will help counter a lot of the lack of predictability that causes so much stress in the world.” — Jordan Friedman [0:44:09]
Watch ourFinding Braveepisodes on YouTube!
Don’t forget – you can experience each Finding Brave episode in both audio and video formats! Check out new and recent episodes on my YouTube channel at YouTube.com/kathycaprino. And please leave us a comment and a thumbs up if you like the show!
If your go-to stress strategies aren’t cutting it anymore, you’re not alone, and there’s a reason for that. Today on Finding Brave, we’re joined by deeply inspiring The Stress Coach, Jordan Friedman, to explore what really works for managing stress during high-anxiety times and why most stress-reduction methods miss the mark.
With over 30 years of experience, Jordan’s science-backed, creative approach has helped thousands reduce anxiety, improve sleep, and regain control. A former Director of Columbia University’s Health Education Program and author of The Stress Manager’s Manual, Jordan is also the voice behind The Chill Factory podcast and app. His unique work blends evidence-based techniques with creativity and humor, including offering guided "chill tours" through Central Park to help groups manage stress in fun, unexpected ways.
In this episode, we dig into why so many stress-reduction methods fail us during uncertain times and what we can do differently to support our nervous systems. Jordan breaks down what happens to the body and mind in extended states of anxiety and offers practical, sustainable strategies for managing stress.
Plus, you’ll get a sneak peek into our upcoming Central Park Calm Retreat on June 13th, 2025 - co-hosted by Jordan and myself - where participants will experience these transformative practices firsthand in the amazingly beautiful urban oasis of NYC’s Central Park.
Whether you're supporting a stressed-out team, raising anxious kids, or looking for ways to stay steady and nurture your own calm and wellbeing, this episode offers the clarity and calm you've been searching for!
Key Highlights From This Episode:
The remarkable personal story that led Jordan to his work in stress management. [05:11]
Hidden stressors in today’s unpredictable world and their impact on your health. [15:40]
How cutting back on news, TV, and social media can help ease stress. [20:39]
Why so many stress reduction methods fail (and what to do instead). [25:38]
Practical strategies for effective, long-term stress management. [30:03]
The science behind Jordan’s potent ‘Mod Squad’ stress-reduction technique. [35:11]
Ways that community and support help mitigate fear, anxiety, and uncertainty. [41:55]
How you can connect with your inner calm at the upcoming Central Park Retreat! [46:08]
JOIN US JUNE 13, 2025 for a LIVE, calming in-person retreat and tour in NYC’s iconic Central Park – hosted by Kathy Caprino and Jordan Friedman
Connect with Your Inner Calm on June 13th with Kathy and Jordan, in NYC’s iconic Central Park
I’m thrilled to share a truly special event coming up on June 13th, designed for folks who would like a stress-reducing, calm, and enlivening retreat experience in NYC’s Central Park!
For the first time, I'm teaming up with my dear friend and top stress management expert, Jordan Friedman (who I’ve had the honor of interviewing on my podcast twice now), to offer a live retreat and tour experience on June 13th in the heart of New York City's iconic Central Park.
We’ll start with a two and a half-hour walking tour guided by Jordan (who is also a fabulous licensed New York City tour guide) of some of the most beautiful and relaxing spots in the park, followed by an energizing and supportive Q&A session, where Jordan and I will help you directly address and navigate some of the biggest stressors you’re facing today — in your life, career, and family.
We cannot wait to spend this special and meaningful time with you, surrounded by the nature, beauty, and deep calm of the urban oasis of Central Park.
Jordan and I would love to be with you in this special experience on June 13th!
———————
WANT TO BECOME THE MOST CONFIDENT, POSITIVE, AND EMPOWERED VERSION OF YOU IN LIFE AND WORK - so you can thrive at the highest level AND help others reach their highest potential as well?
It’s not too late! My 8-week live training course - The Most Powerful You - starts May 15th but you can still join us. Click here to learn more and register for this transformative and life-affirming 8 weeks group couse!
READY FOR A HUGE PERSONAL SHIFT TO ACHIEVE MORE SUCCESS, IMPACT, AND FULFILLMENT IN YOUR CAREER THIS YEAR?
Work with Kathy in a private, 1:1 program and get hands-on, transformative CAREER & LEADERSHIP GROWTH COACHING SUPPORT today!
Are you ready for a big positive shift in how you’re working and what you’re achieving today in your career? Let’s make that happen for you!
In my acclaimed and highly rated 6-session Career & Leadership Breakthrough 1:1 coaching program, I help people create, experience and accomplish what they want most in life and work, which includes more confidence, impact, advancement, financial reward, fulfillment and meaning.
I’ve worked with over 20,000 professionals across 6 continents, and before that, I served as a therapist, and before that, I was a corporate VP, managing multi-million dollar budgets and global initiatives.
I bring all of that experience to our work together, helping you build a new chapter that aligns with who you really are and what you’re ready to create.
If you enjoy the book, we’d so appreciate your giving the book a positive rating and review on Amazon! And check out Kathy’s digital companion course The Most Powerful You, to help you close the 7 most damaging power gaps in the most effective way possible.
“Stress on its own is not a bad thing. Stress is really important. It’s a vital part of life. It saves us from getting hit by cars, it helps us focus on – solving problems. But when stress becomes a way of life instead of a part of life, – that’s when we see more of the problems.” — Jordan Friedman [0:20:13]
“Yes, meditating can help you feel calmer. It can take the edge off [your] stress and anxiety, but if that stress and anxiety continues to flow into your life – you might get into a situation where meditation isn’t enough.” — Jordan Friedman [0:26:52]
“Something we get wrong – is that we’re putting band aids on things that need more attention than a band aid.” — Jordan Friedman [0:27:25]
“We have great control over our fight or flight responses; maybe not initially when we’re first slammed with the stressor, but pretty soon after, the way we think about things [and] what we do can help us get back on our feet and move in a clearer, more confident, less stressed way.” — Jordan Friedman [0:34:37]
“It’s not only about changing your life situations to stop the fire hydrant of stress. It’s also doing things to – keep your roots solid; breathing, sleeping, exercise, all of it.” — Jordan Friedman [0:38:34]
“Reliable, predictable things in your life, [like] going to bed and waking up at the same time each day, – will help counter a lot of the lack of predictability that causes so much stress in the world.” — Jordan Friedman [0:44:09]
Watch ourFinding Braveepisodes on YouTube!
Don’t forget – you can experience each Finding Brave episode in both audio and video formats! Check out new and recent episodes on my YouTube channel at YouTube.com/kathycaprino. And please leave us a comment and a thumbs up if you like the show!
0:0044:07
307: Visibility Starts with Recognizing Your Value
Guests
Guests of this podcast episode
Octavia Goredema
Keywords
Keywords of this podcast episode
visibilityself-recognitionpersonal brandingprofessional visibilitycareer growthowning your worthstrengthsauthenticity
What if the key to career growth isn’t doing more but recognizing what you’ve already achieved? Today on Finding Brave, we’re joined by inspiring author and career coach Octavia Goredema to discover how true visibility begins with valuing yourself.
Octavia is the CEO of Fire Memos, a passionate advocate for helping people unlock their full potential at work, the author of PREP, PUSH, PIVOT, and host of two Audible Originals, Brand Yourself for Success and How to Change Careers. Previously featured on Finding Brave (check out Episode 248!), she returns to share new insights on personal branding, professional visibility, and why it’s more important than ever to own your worth and leverage more fully your amazing talents, abilities and experiences.
In this episode, you’ll learn why great work alone isn’t enough to stand out in today’s competitive job market and how many high performers remain invisible despite their incredible contributions. We also unpack the connection between visibility and self-recognition and how naming your strengths and tracking your accomplishments form the foundation of a strong personal brand.
Octavia also offers empowering tips on embracing personal branding without feeling “cringy,” even for those who avoid the spotlight, and shares the traits that define her own brand. (And the fascinating responses Octavia offered in answer to my impromptu question her own brand were very enlightening!).
Want to learn how to build a memorable personal brand that embodies who you truly are? Tune in today!
Key Highlights From This Episode:
Why visibility begins with self-recognition (and why so many people struggle with this). [04:55]
How naming your strengths, even the most obvious ones, is key to owning your worth. [08:43]
Using discomfort as a diagnostic tool to guide your next steps and fuel growth. [17:23]
The power of sharing your struggles: it might be the inspiration someone else needs! [21:45]
Embracing authenticity and aligning your brand with who you truly are. [25:21]
Tips for identifying the key traits of your personal brand and building a presence for it. [27:41]
Redefining success by how you honor your own progress, not others' opinions of it. [39:38]
Ready to Take Your Professional Life and Leadership to the Next Level FAST in asupportive group/community environment?
JOIN KATHY IN “THE MOST POWERFUL YOU”8-WEEK COACHING AND TRAINING COURSE STARTING MAY 15TH!
My 8-week LIVE course, The Most Powerful You, is now OPEN for early bird Spring registration, with big savings and bonuses! Join me in this transformational learning and growth journey!
The course starts May 15th, and if you register by May 10th, you’ll save $300 and get 9 amazing bonuses — including one month of free access to my new digital coaching tool, Kathy Caprino AI.
Over 8 weeks, I’ll personally coach you and an inspiring small group of professionals around the global to build your confidence, step into expanded leadership, speak up for what you want, job search and interview more successfully, connect with influential mentors, and finally make the career shifts, improvements and changes you’ve been dreaming about.
You’ll also be a part of an uplifting support community, both on our live calls and in our private Facebook group.
Spots are limited, so please don’t hesitate! Visit mostpowerfulyou.com to claim your early bird savings and bonuses before May 10.
Let’s make this the year your professional life truly transforms in the way you dream it to. Hope to see you there!
———————
WANT 1:1, PRIVATE SUPPORT TO TRANSFORM YOUR CAREER THIS YEAR TO REACH YOUR HIGHEST GOALS?
Work with Kathy and get hands-on, transformative (1:1) CAREER & LEADERSHIP GROWTH COACHING SUPPORT today!
If you’re ready for a big positive shift in how you’re working and what you’re achieving today in your career AND want to experience private, one-on-one career coaching and consulting - let’s make that happen for you!
In my 6-sessionCareer & Leadership Breakthrough1:1 coaching program or my 10-sessionBuild Your Confidence, Success and Impactprogram, I help men and women get what they want most, which includes more confidence, impact, advancement, financial reward, and fulfillment and exponential growth and reach.
I’ve worked with over 25,000 professionals across 6 continents, and before that, I served as a therapist, and before that, I was a corporate VP, managing multi-million dollar budgets and global initiatives.
I bring all of that experience to our work together, helping you build a new chapter that aligns with who you really are and what you’re ready to create.
Check out the links above if you’re ready for a big positive shift this year. I hope you’ll register now. I’d love to support you!
If you enjoy the book, we’d so appreciate your giving the book a positive rating and review on Amazon! And check out Kathy’s digital companion course The Most Powerful You, to help you close the 7 most damaging power gaps in the most effective way possible.
“Self-promotion can feel so hard, or cringy, or icky. To get past that feeling, we have to connect with ourselves. Before we can talk to anyone else, whether that's a co-worker, or our boss, or our networks about the work that we're doing, we have to recognize our value ourselves.” — @OctaviaGoredema[0:05:14]
“Personal branding starts with owning your narrative unapologetically.” — @OctaviaGoredema[0:16:18]
“Growth is so uncomfortable in the moment, but it's so important because that's actually what helps you identify where the misalignment is. You might not be able to snap your fingers and change it immediately, but it's giving you indicators.” — @OctaviaGoredema[0:19:50]
“Ultimately, what you're doing [in building a personal brand] is embodying who you are and building trust around who you are and what you do. It really is that simple.” — @OctaviaGoredema[0:27:03]
“If you are investing in [a social media presence], it’s not about likes and it’s not about the number of followers that you have. It's actually about the authenticity of what you share.” — @OctaviaGoredema[0:38:59]
“The [real] measure of success is taking the time to privately recognize your progress and to honor that and to celebrate that.” — @OctaviaGoredema[0:39:48]
Watch ourFinding Braveepisodes on YouTube!
Don’t forget – you can experience each Finding Brave episode in both audio and video formats! Check out new and recent episodes on my YouTube channel at YouTube.com/kathycaprino. And please leave us a comment and a thumbs up if you like the show!
What if the key to career growth isn’t doing more but recognizing what you’ve already achieved? Today on Finding Brave, we’re joined by inspiring author and career coach Octavia Goredema to discover how true visibility begins with valuing yourself.
Octavia is the CEO of Fire Memos, a passionate advocate for helping people unlock their full potential at work, the author of PREP, PUSH, PIVOT, and host of two Audible Originals, Brand Yourself for Success and How to Change Careers. Previously featured on Finding Brave (check out Episode 248!), she returns to share new insights on personal branding, professional visibility, and why it’s more important than ever to own your worth and leverage more fully your amazing talents, abilities and experiences.
In this episode, you’ll learn why great work alone isn’t enough to stand out in today’s competitive job market and how many high performers remain invisible despite their incredible contributions. We also unpack the connection between visibility and self-recognition and how naming your strengths and tracking your accomplishments form the foundation of a strong personal brand.
Octavia also offers empowering tips on embracing personal branding without feeling “cringy,” even for those who avoid the spotlight, and shares the traits that define her own brand. (And the fascinating responses Octavia offered in answer to my impromptu question her own brand were very enlightening!).
Want to learn how to build a memorable personal brand that embodies who you truly are? Tune in today!
Key Highlights From This Episode:
Why visibility begins with self-recognition (and why so many people struggle with this). [04:55]
How naming your strengths, even the most obvious ones, is key to owning your worth. [08:43]
Using discomfort as a diagnostic tool to guide your next steps and fuel growth. [17:23]
The power of sharing your struggles: it might be the inspiration someone else needs! [21:45]
Embracing authenticity and aligning your brand with who you truly are. [25:21]
Tips for identifying the key traits of your personal brand and building a presence for it. [27:41]
Redefining success by how you honor your own progress, not others' opinions of it. [39:38]
Ready to Take Your Professional Life and Leadership to the Next Level FAST in asupportive group/community environment?
JOIN KATHY IN “THE MOST POWERFUL YOU”8-WEEK COACHING AND TRAINING COURSE STARTING MAY 15TH!
My 8-week LIVE course, The Most Powerful You, is now OPEN for early bird Spring registration, with big savings and bonuses! Join me in this transformational learning and growth journey!
The course starts May 15th, and if you register by May 10th, you’ll save $300 and get 9 amazing bonuses — including one month of free access to my new digital coaching tool, Kathy Caprino AI.
Over 8 weeks, I’ll personally coach you and an inspiring small group of professionals around the global to build your confidence, step into expanded leadership, speak up for what you want, job search and interview more successfully, connect with influential mentors, and finally make the career shifts, improvements and changes you’ve been dreaming about.
You’ll also be a part of an uplifting support community, both on our live calls and in our private Facebook group.
Spots are limited, so please don’t hesitate! Visit mostpowerfulyou.com to claim your early bird savings and bonuses before May 10.
Let’s make this the year your professional life truly transforms in the way you dream it to. Hope to see you there!
———————
WANT 1:1, PRIVATE SUPPORT TO TRANSFORM YOUR CAREER THIS YEAR TO REACH YOUR HIGHEST GOALS?
Work with Kathy and get hands-on, transformative (1:1) CAREER & LEADERSHIP GROWTH COACHING SUPPORT today!
If you’re ready for a big positive shift in how you’re working and what you’re achieving today in your career AND want to experience private, one-on-one career coaching and consulting - let’s make that happen for you!
In my 6-sessionCareer & Leadership Breakthrough1:1 coaching program or my 10-sessionBuild Your Confidence, Success and Impactprogram, I help men and women get what they want most, which includes more confidence, impact, advancement, financial reward, and fulfillment and exponential growth and reach.
I’ve worked with over 25,000 professionals across 6 continents, and before that, I served as a therapist, and before that, I was a corporate VP, managing multi-million dollar budgets and global initiatives.
I bring all of that experience to our work together, helping you build a new chapter that aligns with who you really are and what you’re ready to create.
Check out the links above if you’re ready for a big positive shift this year. I hope you’ll register now. I’d love to support you!
If you enjoy the book, we’d so appreciate your giving the book a positive rating and review on Amazon! And check out Kathy’s digital companion course The Most Powerful You, to help you close the 7 most damaging power gaps in the most effective way possible.
“Self-promotion can feel so hard, or cringy, or icky. To get past that feeling, we have to connect with ourselves. Before we can talk to anyone else, whether that's a co-worker, or our boss, or our networks about the work that we're doing, we have to recognize our value ourselves.” — @OctaviaGoredema[0:05:14]
“Personal branding starts with owning your narrative unapologetically.” — @OctaviaGoredema[0:16:18]
“Growth is so uncomfortable in the moment, but it's so important because that's actually what helps you identify where the misalignment is. You might not be able to snap your fingers and change it immediately, but it's giving you indicators.” — @OctaviaGoredema[0:19:50]
“Ultimately, what you're doing [in building a personal brand] is embodying who you are and building trust around who you are and what you do. It really is that simple.” — @OctaviaGoredema[0:27:03]
“If you are investing in [a social media presence], it’s not about likes and it’s not about the number of followers that you have. It's actually about the authenticity of what you share.” — @OctaviaGoredema[0:38:59]
“The [real] measure of success is taking the time to privately recognize your progress and to honor that and to celebrate that.” — @OctaviaGoredema[0:39:48]
Watch ourFinding Braveepisodes on YouTube!
Don’t forget – you can experience each Finding Brave episode in both audio and video formats! Check out new and recent episodes on my YouTube channel at YouTube.com/kathycaprino. And please leave us a comment and a thumbs up if you like the show!
0:0053:32
306: How to Turn LinkedIn Into Your #1 Business and Career Growth Tool
If you still think of LinkedIn as nothing more than a job site or somewhere you go to upload your online resume, now is the time to update and expand your approach! Today on the show, we welcome LinkedIn insider Jon Lyndon for a deep dive into the evolution of LinkedIn and why we should all be using it as a human connection tool and a pathway to opportunity at scale.
Having spent nearly a decade at LinkedIn, Jon is an expert in how to leverage the true power of the platform. He is the founder and CEO of Lyndon Consulting, where he works with global companies and executive leaders on their LinkedIn strategy, helping them rethink how they show up, connect, and lead in a digital world. He also advises professional athletes transitioning out of sport, guiding them in building strong personal brands.
In our conversation, Jon breaks down the biggest misconceptions about LinkedIn. He unpacks how only using it as a job search leads you to lose out on key opportunities and explains powerfully why we can all afford to share more on LinkedIn — and why sharing doesn’t need to be inauthentic or boastful. Jon also offers his expert guidance on how to navigate LinkedIn when you’ve been let go from your job, and how to build greater trust, credibility, and clarity, so you’re connecting with inspiring people and learning from them, while building a mutually supportive and enriching community.
We also discuss the power of LinkedIn recommendations, how trust equals consistency over time, the importance of getting clear on the outcomes you want to achieve on LinkedIn, and Jon’s transformative personal branding work with athletes. To hear the full scope of our conversation about LinkedIn and discover its full power as a human connection tool, be sure to tune in!
Key Highlights From This Episode:
A breakdown of the biggest misconceptions about LinkedIn. [04:31]
Jon’s career at LinkedIn and how the platform has evolved. [09:06]
How to get more comfortable and confident with sharing your achievements and experience on LinkedIn. [13:36]
How to tease out the “20 facts of you” - the 20 accomplishments that you are most proud of and why these matter greatly to you, and how to share those in exciting ways [17:28}
Why you should keep your LinkedIn updated even if you have job security. [20:06]
Advice on how to navigate LinkedIn and share after being laid off. [23:44]
Language one can draw on to potentially consider sharing on LinkedIn about a layoff they’ve experienced, and what they’re looking for next. [24:16]
Suggestions for reaching out to people you want to connect with more. [27:27]
The power of helping others and utilizing recommendations on LinkedIn. [32:20]
Getting clarity on the outcomes you want to achieve on LinkedIn. [40:29]
How Jon serves professional athletes through personal branding. [45:49]
Final thoughts on how to prepare for and navigate your next chapter. [45:49]
READY FOR A HUGE PERSONAL SHIFT TO ACHIEVE MORE SUCCESS, IMPACT, AND FULFILLMENT IN YOUR CAREER THIS YEAR?
Work with Kathy and get hands-on, transformative CAREER & LEADERSHIP GROWTH COACHING SUPPORT today!
Hey folks! Kathy here. Are you ready for a big positive shift in how you’re working and what you’re achieving today in your career? Let’s make that happen for you!
While you might know me best as a podcast host and a writer, a key focus in my work is helping professionals experience greater success and achieve their biggest goals in the quickest, most effective way possible.
In my 6-session Career & Leadership Breakthrough 1:1 coaching program, I help men and women get what they want most, which includes more confidence, impact, advancement, financial reward, and fulfillment.
I’ve worked with over 20,000 women across 6 continents, and before that, I served as a therapist, and before that, I was a corporate VP, managing multi-million dollar budgets and global initiatives.
I bring all of that experience to our work together, helping you build a new chapter that aligns with who you really are and what you’re ready to create.
Ready to Take Your Professional Life and Leadership to the Next Level FAST in asupportive group/community environment?
JOIN “THE MOST POWERFUL YOU”8-WEEK COACHING AND TRAINING COURSE WITH KATHY STARTING MAY 15TH!
Quick update here! My 8-week LIVE course, The Most Powerful You, is now OPEN for early bird Spring registration, with big savings and bonuses!
The course starts May 15th, and if you register by May 10th, you’ll save $300 and get 9 amazing bonuses — including one month of free access to my new digital coaching tool, Kathy Caprino AI.
Over 8 weeks, I’ll personally coach you and an amazing small group of professionals around the global to build your confidence, step into expanded leadership, speak up for what you want, job search and interview more successfully, connect with influential mentors, and finally - make the career shifts, improvements and changes you’ve been dreaming about.
You’ll also be a part of an amazing support community, both on our live calls and in our private Facebook group.
Spots are limited, so don’t wait! Visit mostpowerfulyou.com to claim your early bird savings and bonuses before May 10.
Let’s make this the year your professional life truly transforms in the way you dream it to. Hope to see you there!
If you enjoy the book, we’d so appreciate your giving the book a positive rating and review on Amazon! And check out Kathy’s digital companion course The Most Powerful You, to help you close the 7 most damaging power gaps in the most effective way possible.
“The way that I think about LinkedIn is [as] a human connection tool. It creates a pathway to opportunity at scale.” — Jon Lyndon [0:05:01]
“When we are sharing facts and stories, and things that we've accomplished — if we have an outcome that we want to come from that, it helps us be authentic, and it helps us to be confident about those things because it leads into something rather than just sharing to share.” — Jon Lyndon [0:18:33]
“When you begin to share those in the right way, other people then attach to those things, and they're relevant because they say, ‘Oh, I didn't know that about you, but this applies [to] my life because I'm going through this as well.’” — Jon Lyndon [0:19:14]
“You never know when [LinkedIn] might become relevant, it might not be a layoff, but you might want to start a new business.” — Jon Lyndon [0:22:59]
“If you're working in corporate and you're trying to sell products and services, there [are] ways that you can do it in a human, authentic, thought leader way that is still pretty much an untapped opportunity on LinkedIn for a lot of people.” — Jon Lyndon [0:43:43]
“If you know the outcomes, and you're clear about what they are in any area of your life, then creating the pathway to get there becomes so much easier.” — Jon Lyndon [0:50:18]
Watch ourFinding Braveepisodes on YouTube!
Don’t forget – you can experience each Finding Brave episode in both audio and video formats! Check out new and recent episodes on my YouTube channel at YouTube.com/kathycaprino.
And please leave us a comment and a thumbs up if you like the show!
If you still think of LinkedIn as nothing more than a job site or somewhere you go to upload your online resume, now is the time to update and expand your approach! Today on the show, we welcome LinkedIn insider Jon Lyndon for a deep dive into the evolution of LinkedIn and why we should all be using it as a human connection tool and a pathway to opportunity at scale.
Having spent nearly a decade at LinkedIn, Jon is an expert in how to leverage the true power of the platform. He is the founder and CEO of Lyndon Consulting, where he works with global companies and executive leaders on their LinkedIn strategy, helping them rethink how they show up, connect, and lead in a digital world. He also advises professional athletes transitioning out of sport, guiding them in building strong personal brands.
In our conversation, Jon breaks down the biggest misconceptions about LinkedIn. He unpacks how only using it as a job search leads you to lose out on key opportunities and explains powerfully why we can all afford to share more on LinkedIn — and why sharing doesn’t need to be inauthentic or boastful. Jon also offers his expert guidance on how to navigate LinkedIn when you’ve been let go from your job, and how to build greater trust, credibility, and clarity, so you’re connecting with inspiring people and learning from them, while building a mutually supportive and enriching community.
We also discuss the power of LinkedIn recommendations, how trust equals consistency over time, the importance of getting clear on the outcomes you want to achieve on LinkedIn, and Jon’s transformative personal branding work with athletes. To hear the full scope of our conversation about LinkedIn and discover its full power as a human connection tool, be sure to tune in!
Key Highlights From This Episode:
A breakdown of the biggest misconceptions about LinkedIn. [04:31]
Jon’s career at LinkedIn and how the platform has evolved. [09:06]
How to get more comfortable and confident with sharing your achievements and experience on LinkedIn. [13:36]
How to tease out the “20 facts of you” - the 20 accomplishments that you are most proud of and why these matter greatly to you, and how to share those in exciting ways [17:28}
Why you should keep your LinkedIn updated even if you have job security. [20:06]
Advice on how to navigate LinkedIn and share after being laid off. [23:44]
Language one can draw on to potentially consider sharing on LinkedIn about a layoff they’ve experienced, and what they’re looking for next. [24:16]
Suggestions for reaching out to people you want to connect with more. [27:27]
The power of helping others and utilizing recommendations on LinkedIn. [32:20]
Getting clarity on the outcomes you want to achieve on LinkedIn. [40:29]
How Jon serves professional athletes through personal branding. [45:49]
Final thoughts on how to prepare for and navigate your next chapter. [45:49]
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“The way that I think about LinkedIn is [as] a human connection tool. It creates a pathway to opportunity at scale.” — Jon Lyndon [0:05:01]
“When we are sharing facts and stories, and things that we've accomplished — if we have an outcome that we want to come from that, it helps us be authentic, and it helps us to be confident about those things because it leads into something rather than just sharing to share.” — Jon Lyndon [0:18:33]
“When you begin to share those in the right way, other people then attach to those things, and they're relevant because they say, ‘Oh, I didn't know that about you, but this applies [to] my life because I'm going through this as well.’” — Jon Lyndon [0:19:14]
“You never know when [LinkedIn] might become relevant, it might not be a layoff, but you might want to start a new business.” — Jon Lyndon [0:22:59]
“If you're working in corporate and you're trying to sell products and services, there [are] ways that you can do it in a human, authentic, thought leader way that is still pretty much an untapped opportunity on LinkedIn for a lot of people.” — Jon Lyndon [0:43:43]
“If you know the outcomes, and you're clear about what they are in any area of your life, then creating the pathway to get there becomes so much easier.” — Jon Lyndon [0:50:18]
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