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The Living Church Podcast explores ecumenical topics in theology, the arts, ethics, pastoral care, and spiritual growth — all to equip and encourage leaders in the Episcopal Church, Anglican Communion, and beyond. A ministry of the Living Church Institute.

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Rev. Clint Wilson Fr. Matthew Olver Amber Noel Amber Matthew S.C. Olver

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Mary Berry
Mary Berry is the executive director of the Berry Center and the daughter of renowned poet, farmer, and essayist Wendell Berry. She grew up at Lanes Landing Farm in Henry County, KY, where she has farmed for a living. In 2011, she founded The Berry Center to continue the agricultural work of her family, focusing on issues confronting small farming families in Kentucky and across the country.
Fr. Martin Browne

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Jesse Zink

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Magnus Persson

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Sean Rowe
The Most Rev. Sean Rowe is the Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church, having taken office recently. He is known for his leadership within the church and his focus on priorities such as Christian unity and addressing contemporary issues like same-sex marriage. Rowe has a background in ecclesiastical leadership and is involved in discussions regarding the future of the Anglican Communion and its structures.

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Wendell Berry Mary Berry farming local economies Christian communities home faith agriculture Berry Center Pope Francis Christian unity Fr. Martin Browne Vatican Benedictine monk Anglican Communion World Methodist Council Week of Prayer for Christian Unity ARCIC IARCCUM Conclave Christian leaders polycrisis apocalyptic clarity Christian witness theology ministry decision making Swedish Pentecostal institutional church Three streams Swedish Lutheranism Anglicanism charismatic success priestly divesment transformations of grace Swedish Evangelical Mission EFS change from within Presiding Bishop Episcopal Church same-sex marriage Anglican Church in North America TREC Nairobi-Cairo Proposals

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0:00 49:20

Wendell Berry and Working in Place with Mary Berry

Hosts
Rev. Clint Wilson
Guests
Mary Berry
Keywords
Wendell Berry Mary Berry farming local economies Christian communities home faith agriculture Berry Center

Today is a conversation between a pastor and a farmer. What might working the land, protecting local economies, and nurturing Christian communities have in common?

We'll be speaking with Mary Berry, executive director of the Berry Center, and daughter of poet, farmer, and essayist Wendell Berry. My fellow interviewer today is the Rev. Clint Wilson, rector of St. Francis in the Fields, Harrods Creek, KY, not far from the Berry Center. 

We talk about joy of hard work, and hard work that is good work. Growing up with Wendell Berry as a dad. Faith and farming. Decisions to live with or against a given landscape. What is home? How do you make a home and dedicate yourself to it? The thick fabric of a place, and how work might be interwoven with neighbors, family, and seasons.

What does it mean to actually "Love your neighbor as yourself"? We'll also touch on special challenges the suburbs pose to meaningful life together.

Mary Berry, Executive Director of The Berry Center, grew up at Lanes Landing Farm in Henry County, KY. She has farmed for a living in Henry County, and started The Berry Center in 2011 to continue the agricultural work of John Berry, Sr. and his sons, author Wendell Berry and former Kentucky state senator, the late John M. Berry, Jr. The Berry Center focuses on issues confronting small farming families in Kentucky and around the country.

Hear Mary speak at the Living Church conference

Learn more about the Berry Center or Home Place Meat

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0:00 41:47

Reflections on Pope Francis with Martin Browne

Hosts
Fr. Matthew Olver Amber Noel
Guests
Fr. Martin Browne
Keywords
Pope Francis Christian unity Fr. Martin Browne Vatican Benedictine monk Anglican Communion World Methodist Council Week of Prayer for Christian Unity ARCIC IARCCUM Conclave

With the death of Pope Francis, today's bonus episode is a reflection on his ministry, particularly as it relates to Christian unity.

Fr. Matthew Olver and Amber Noel chat with Fr. Martin Browne, who serves at the Vatican's Dicastery for Promoting Christian unity. Martin shares his first impressions of the pope and what it was like working for him. We discuss the pope's choices and charisms, his passion for shared leadership with other Christians, his inability and refusal to fit into a political box, and the fruit this has borne in personal relationships and the global scene, as well as some of the hype, frustration, and bewilderment in the wake of Francis' leadership style and its very public preference for the poor. 

We'll also chat a bit about the movie, Conclave, and what it might get right and wrong about how the new pope will be selected.

The Rev. Martin Browne, OSB, is a Benedictine monk of Glenstal Abbey in Ireland. He currently lives at the Primatial Abbey of Sant' Anselmo in Rome, and serves as an official in the Western Section of the Vatican's Dicastery for Promoting Christian Unity. In the Dicastery he is the desk officer for relations with the Anglican Communion and the World Methodist Council. He is also responsible, in collaboration with the Faith and Order Commission of the World Council of Churches, for the preparation of the prayers and reflections for the Week of Prayer for Christian Unity. He serves as the Catholic Co-Secretary of the Anglican-Roman Catholic International Commission (ARCIC) and the International Anglican-Roman Catholic Commision for Unity and Mission (IARCCUM).

A brief note on when we recorded this: it was just after the pope's death and before his funeral. So take any details or speculations about the funeral proceedings with a grain of salt.

TLC Podcast: Dispatch from Rome

Article: "Pope Francis and the Power of the Symbolic"

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0:00 51:14

Christian Witness in Polycrisis with Jesse Zink

Guests
Jesse Zink
Keywords
Christian leaders polycrisis apocalyptic clarity Christian witness theology ministry decision making

How can Christian leaders face the "overwhelm" of our times, in politics and national life, in personal life and relationships, and in ministry? 

We live in an age of what our guest today calls "polycrisis." Issues interconnect, pile on, and come hard and fast, faster than we can fix or, often, respond to in a thoughtful or Christian way.

How do we avoid either inaction or anxiousness?

We'll seek what our guest today calls "apocalyptic clarity." And we'll ask, "How do we recognize what's true, despite appearances, resist what's false, and participate joyfully in what God is doing?" This turns out to be a helpful window to perspective and practical decision making in a 21st-century Christian life. 

Our guest today is the Rev. Dr. Jesse Zink, principal of Montreal Diocesan Theological College and canon theologian in the Diocese of Montreal. And we'll be discussing his latest book, Faithful, Hopeful, Creative: 15 Theses for Christian Witness in a Crisis-Shaped World. He's also the author of four books about Christian history and global Christianity, as well as an introduction to theology and mission in the Episcopal Church called A Faith for the Future

Jesse's bio and books

Study guide for Faithful, Creative, Hopeful

Book Jesse mentioned: What Money Can't Buy: The Moral Limits of Markets

0:00 57:26

Old Church, New Callings with Magnus Persson

Hosts
Amber
Guests
Magnus Persson
Keywords
Swedish Pentecostal institutional church Three streams Swedish Lutheranism Anglicanism charismatic success priestly divesment transformations of grace Swedish Evangelical Mission EFS change from within

How did a Swedish Pentecostal find himself called to the beauties, benefits, and dangers of an institutional church? Today we join the Rev. Magnus Persson of the Church of Sweden, which is a Full Communion Partner with the Episcopal Church. 

We discuss the "Three streams" of Swedish Lutheranism and it's intersections with Anglicanism, how God led Magnus away from charismatic success to priestly divesment, the painful transformations of grace, and saunas and the Holy Spirit. 

Finally, we talk about the place of the Swedish Evangelical Mission (EFS), the organization Magnus is a part of, within the larger Church of Sweden, and what it's like to work patiently and cheerfully for change from within an ancient institution.

Magnus is an ordained minister in the Church of Sweden and works as a pastor for the Swedish Evangelical Mission. He is also the network co-ordinator of Re:formera, a network and think tank for reformational whole-churchism, and he's the host for its weekly podcast (which Amber appeared on as a guest).

Whether you're struggling to serve in an older institution, wondering whether God might be calling you to a vocational leap of faith, or if you just enjoy a good story, we hope you enjoy the conversation.

More about the Swedish Evangelical Mission (EFS)

Magnus's book, Reclaiming the Reformation

Amber on the Re:formera podcast

Episode with Matthew Riegel (ELCA)

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0:00 46:17

Conversation with Presiding Bishop Sean Rowe

Hosts
Matthew S.C. Olver
Guests
Sean Rowe
Keywords
Presiding Bishop Episcopal Church Christian unity same-sex marriage Anglican Communion Anglican Church in North America TREC Nairobi-Cairo Proposals

Executive Director of TLC, the Rev. Dr. Matthew S.C. Olver, interviews the Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church, the Most Rev. Sean Rowe.

Presiding Bishop Sean has been in office now for a few months. We talk about his priorities for his term, and what slimming down some of the structures and programs of the Episcopal church might look like. We also ask what he'd say to Episcopalians who disagree about same-sex marriage, what Christian unity means, and what he most wants the Anglican Communion and the Anglican Church in North America to know about him.

From TREC to the Nairobi-Cairo Proposals, this conversation should perk the ears of Episcopalians, but will be of interest to anyone in the Anglican family, or any Christian curious about institutional work and hope in a divided Church.

More about Presiding Bishop Sean

Nairobi-Cairo Proposals and IASCUFO

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