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Welcome to the Pair Program from hatchpad, the podcast that gives you a front-row seat to candid conversations with tech leaders from the startup world. Join host Tim Winkler alongside co-host Mike Gruen as they bring together two guests to dissect topics at the intersection of technology, startups, and career growth. 

Tim Winkler is a serial Entrepreneur and is the CEO of hatch I.T. a Software Recruiting Company focusing on newly emerging Startup companies.

Mike Gruen is a Technologist & Engineering Leader with decades of experience in the field. He is currently the Director of Engineering at Cherre, the leader in real estate data and insight.

Get Answers to your most pressing startup questions: 💡 Do I need a college degree to work as a Software Engineer? 💡 Should we build or buy software? 💡 How do startups get funded? 💡 How do I get into Product Management?

All these questions and more will be answered for you by our experienced hosts and industry-leading guests. Make sure to catch each episode every other week and follow us on Social to stay up to date with hatchpad.

🐣 What is hatchpad? 🐣 Hatchpad is the community for startup technologists. Our members include Software Engineers, Product Managers, Data Scientists, and Tech Executives; all connected through their passion for startups and desire to create innovative technology.

Every week we chat with startup technologists to provide you behind-the-scenes insights on technical skills, career advice, and industry trends. This community is for you if you want to learn from and grow alongside a curated group of startup technical professionals.  

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Freedom Dumlao is the CTO at Vestmark, with a background in leading engineering teams at companies like Flexcar, Zipcar, Wayfair, Drift, and Amazon. He has deep experience in scaling technology organizations and driving innovation across startups and large enterprises.
Ben Colman is the CEO and Co-Founder of Reality Defender, a deepfake detection platform that helps enterprises and governments identify AI-generated threats. He has a background in cybersecurity and data science, and has led innovation at Goldman Sachs and Google. Ben holds an MBA from NYU Stern.
Wes Blackwell is the Managing Director at Booz Allen Hamilton, where he invests in cutting-edge technologies that advance national security. His focus includes AI, quantum computing, cyber, and robotics, supporting founders building high-impact, over-the-horizon solutions.
Kevin Larrabee is the Head of Product at DataShapesAI, a leader in Artificial Intelligence for Electromagnetic Spectrum (EMS) applications. He leads the product strategy and execution, driving advancements in AI-driven spectrum awareness, signal monitoring, and automated frequency management. Kevin is a 21-year Army veteran who has led multiple analytical teams across USASOC, CENTCOM, and the Army Staff.
Gene Kesselman is the Director of Mission Innovation Experimentation at MIT, a Lecturer at MIT Sloan School of Management, and the Executive Director of MIT Mission Innovation Experimental (MIx). He is also the Managing Director of MIT's venture studio, Proto Ventures. A seasoned entrepreneur and former Air Force Colonel, Gene brings extensive expertise in innovation, defense, and dual-use technology strategy.
Jake Chapman is the Managing Director of Marque Ventures, an early-stage venture firm focused on national security capabilities. He previously led a turnaround of the Department of Defense's internal venture arm and serves as an adjunct at RAND, where he works at the intersection of finance and national security.
Nicolas Chaillan is the Founder & CEO of Ask Sage, a generative AI platform helping government and enterprise teams work smarter with secure, scalable AI. He is also the former Chief Software Officer of the U.S. Air Force and Space Force, where he led major modernization efforts across defense. With a background in launching startups at age 15, Nicolas has transformed tech adoption in national defense and is focused on accelerating innovation and productivity across the public sector.

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0:00 56:56

CTO Wisdom with Freedom Dumlao | Beyond The Program

Hosts
Tim Winkler Mike Gruen
Guests
Freedom Dumlao
Keywords
tech leadership startup technology engineering teams AI in engineering building high-performing teams scaling technology organizations CTO role leadership lessons

CTO Wisdom with Freedom Dumlao | Beyond The Program

Welcome to CTO Wisdom. In this series, we interview technical leaders who have stepped into executive positions.Todays guest host, Eric Brooke, speaks with Freedom Dumlao, CTO at Vestmark, in this episode of CTO Wisdom. We sit down with Freedom to explore his unconventional journey into tech and the leadership lessons hes learned along the way. From programming on a black-and-white TV as a kid to leading engineering teams at Zipcar and Wayfair, Freedom shares valuable insights on building high-performing teams and navigating executive responsibilities.

Together, they dive into topics such as:

  • How a passion for making sparked a tech career
  • Lessons from managing managers and scaling teams
  • Navigating the CTO role with empathy and accountability
  • The future of AI in engineering organizations
  • Why shipping culture beats everything

About todays guest: Freedom Dumlao is the CTO at Vestmark, with a background in leading engineering teams at companies like Flexcar, Zipcar, Wayfair, Drift, and Amazon. He brings deep experience in scaling technology organizations and driving innovation across both startups and large enterprises.

About todays host: Eric Brooke has a rich and varied leadership career leading up to 21,000 people and Billions in revenue, throughout 14 countries. In their career, they have been an Executive six times (e.g. President, CEO, CMO, and CTO) and a Board member of multiple organisations. Eric has been a CTO of scaling startups from 0 to 120 engineers. As an adviser and mentor, they have helped multiple other startups scale both in Canada and the US. As well as supporting multiple startup incubators such as 1871 in Chicago and TechStars.Exploring your next tech role? Get insider job advice and the latest startup & govtech openings delivered straight to your inbox.

Subscribe here: https://www.myhatchpad.com/newsletter/

0:00 1:04:14

Combating Deepfakes with AI Innovation: Reality Defender & BAH Ventures | The Pair Program Ep61

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Tim Winkler Mike Gruen
Guests
Ben Colman Wes Blackwell
Keywords
Deepfakes AI Detection Cybersecurity Synthetic Content AI Ethics National Security Fraud Detection AI Moderation

Combating Deepfakes with AI Innovation: Reality Defender & BAH Ventures | The Pair Program Ep61

In this episode of The Pair Program, we’re joined by Ben Colman (CEO and Co-Founder of Reality Defender) and Wes Blackwell (Managing Director at Booz Allen Hamilton) for a fascinating discussion on AI and national security. They dive into the dangers of deepfakes, the role of AI detection tools, and how public and private sectors can stay ahead of this evolving threat. Whether you’re curious about how deepfakes are disrupting banks or the ethics behind AI moderation, this one’s for you.

Here’s what we get into:

  • Why deepfakes are the new cybersecurity threat
  • Real-world fraud examples using AI-generated media
  • The technical challenges of detecting synthetic content
  • The ethics of AI detection and censorship
  • How startups and government can work together to combat AI misuse

About Ben Colman: Ben is the CEO and Co-Founder of Reality Defender, a deepfake detection platform helping enterprises and governments identify AI-generated threats. With a background in cybersecurity and data science, he’s led innovation at Goldman Sachs and Google, and holds an MBA from NYU Stern.

About Wes Blackwell: Wes is Managing Director at Booz Allen Hamilton, where he invests in cutting-edge technologies that advance national security. His focus spans AI, quantum, cyber, and robotics – backing founders building high-impact, over-the-horizon solutions.

 Exploring your next tech role? Get insider job advice and the latest startup & govtech openings – delivered straight to your inbox. Subscribe here: https://www.myhatchpad.com/newsletter/

0:00 1:06:56

How We Hatched: Kevin Larrabee, Head of Product at DataShapesAI

Hosts
Tim Winkler Mike Gruen
Guests
Kevin Larrabee
Keywords
AI Electromagnetic Spectrum military operations AI-driven solutions spectrum awareness signal monitoring dual-use technology defense commercial sectors

How We Hatched: Kevin Larrabee, Head of Product at DataShapesAI

In this episode of How We Hatched, we’re joined by Kevin Larrabee, the Head of Product at DataShapesAI. In our conversation, Kevin takes us through the transformative role AI plays in Electromagnetic Spectrum (EMS) applications. He also shares how DataShapesAI is using AI-driven solutions to enhance spectrum awareness and improve signal monitoring.

Here’s a glimpse of what we talked about:

  • The fascinating intersection of military operations and AI-driven tech solutions
  • How Kevin navigated the transition from Army officer to startup product lead
  • Why DataShapesAI is focusing on EMS applications and what that means for the future
  • The challenges and opportunities in developing dual-use technology for defense and commercial sectors

About Kevin Larrabee: Kevin Larrabee is the Head of Product at DataShapesAI, a leader in Artificial Intelligence for Electromagnetic Spectrum (EMS) applications. He leads the product strategy and execution, driving advancements in AI-driven spectrum awareness, signal monitoring, and automated frequency management. Kevin is a 21-year Army veteran who has led multiple analytical teams across USASOC, CENTCOM, and the Army Staff.

Exploring your next tech role? Get insider job advice and the latest startup & govtech openings – delivered straight to your inbox. Subscribe here: https://www.myhatchpad.com/newsletter/

0:00 1:02:55

The Dual-Use Debate: Crafting Smarter Startups from the Start | The Pair Program Ep60

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Tim Winkler Mike Gruen
Guests
Gene Kesselman Jake Chapman
Keywords
dual-use technology defense innovation startups venture capital non-dilutive funding SBIR programs government acquisition budgeting processes

The Dual-Use Debate: Crafting Smarter Startups from the Start | The Pair Program Ep60

Today on The Pair Program, we’re joined by Gene Kesselman, Director of Mission Innovation Experimentation at MIT, and Jake Chapman, Managing Director at Marque Ventures. Together, they dive into the evolving landscape of dual-use technology and the future of defense innovation. Gene and Jake explore opportunities, tough realities, and bold reforms shaping tech development for mission and market impact.

Some of what we dive into:

  • Why dual-use strategy is more than just a category
  • Common pitfalls startups face in defense tech
  • How venture capital sees national security innovation
  • The critical role of non-dilutive funding and SBIR programs
  • Urgent reforms needed in government acquisition and budgeting processes

Tune in for real-world insights and sharp debate!

About Gene Keselman: Gene is a Lecturer at MIT Sloan School of Management, Executive Director of MIT Mission Innovation Experimental (MIx), and Managing Director of MIT’s venture studio, Proto Ventures. A seasoned entrepreneur and Air Force Colonel, he brings extensive expertise in innovation, defense, and dual-use technology strategy.

About Jake Chapman: Jake is the Managing Director of Marque Ventures, an early-stage venture firm focused on national security capabilities. He previously led a turnaround of the Department of Defense’s internal venture arm and serves as an adjunct at RAND, where he works at the intersection of finance and national security.

Exploring your next tech role? Get insider job advice and the latest startup & govtech openings – delivered straight to your inbox. Subscribe here: https://www.myhatchpad.com/newsletter/

0:00 57:47

How We Hatched: Nicolas Chaillan, Founder & CEO of Ask Sage

Hosts
Tim Winkler Mike Gruen
Guests
Nicolas Chaillan
Keywords
Nicolas Chaillan Ask Sage generative AI government tech barriers agile innovation cultural clash scaling AI defense tech

How We Hatched: Nicolas Chaillan, Founder & CEO of Ask Sage

On today’s episode of How We Hatched, we sit down with Nicolas Chaillan, Founder & CEO of Ask Sage and former Chief Software Officer for the U.S. Air Force and Space Force. From launching startups at age 15 to transforming tech adoption in national defense, Nick shares lessons from his unconventional path and offers insights on building secure, scalable AI.

Key topics we cover:

  • Ask Sage’s origin and mission to democratize generative AI
  • Overcoming government tech barriers through agile innovation
  • The cultural clash between startups and defense
  • Scaling AI in the U.S. Army
  • Advice for aspiring defense tech entrepreneurs

About Nicolas Chaillan:

Nicolas Chaillan is the Founder & CEO of Ask Sage, a generative AI platform helping government and enterprise teams work smarter with secure, scalable AI. As the former Chief Software Officer of the U.S. Air Force, he led major modernization efforts across defense. Today, he’s focused on accelerating innovation and productivity across the public sector.

Exploring your next tech role? Get insider job advice and the latest startup & govtech openings – delivered straight to your inbox. Subscribe here: https://www.myhatchpad.com/newsletter/

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