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Here's a quick summary of the last 5 episodes on Book Cougars Podcast: Two Middle-Aged Women on the Hunt for a Good Read.

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Chris Emily

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Matthew Goodman
Matthew Goodman is an accomplished author known for his narrative histories that delve into significant historical events and figures. His works often explore themes of courage, friendship, and betrayal, as seen in his latest book, 'Paris Undercover: A Wartime Story of Courage, Friendship, and Betrayal.' Goodman has a background in literature and has contributed to various publications, showcasing his expertise in storytelling and historical research.
Eowyn Ivey
Eowyn Ivey is an accomplished author known for her evocative storytelling and deep connection to the Alaskan landscape. She gained recognition with her debut novel, 'The Snow Child,' which was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize. Ivey's writing often explores themes of motherhood, nature, and the human experience, drawing from her own life and the rich literary traditions of her home state. Her latest work, 'BLACK WOODS BLUE SKY,' continues to showcase her unique voice and perspective.
Ruth Franklin
Ruth Franklin is an accomplished author and literary critic known for her insightful biographies and works on significant literary figures. She has written extensively about Shirley Jackson, producing the biography 'SHIRLEY JACKSON: A RATHER HAUNTED LIFE', which has received critical acclaim. Her latest work, 'THE MANY LIVES OF ANNE FRANK', explores the complexities of Anne Frank's legacy and has been praised for its depth and narrative style. Franklin's contributions to literature and her engaging conversational style make her a sought-after guest in literary discussions.
Shawn Breathes Books
Shawn Breathes Books is a BookTube creator known for discussing a wide range of literary works and engaging with the book community through video content. He often features book reviews, author interviews, and discussions on various literary themes, making literature accessible and enjoyable for his audience.

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Matthew Goodman Paris Undercover Etta Shiber Kate Bonnefous British servicemen ghost stories The Portable Feminist Reader Being Female Food Person Ephemera Biblio Adventures Independent Bookstore Day Eowyn Ivey BLACK WOODS BLUE SKY writing habits motherhood literary life in Alaska Proust vs Joyce The North Mail HAPPY LAND THE GRIFFIN SISTERS GREATEST HITS OLD NEW YORK STORYWORTHY DEEP WORK LOVE IS FOR ALL OF US Mark Twain House HEARTWOOD A SON AT THE FRONT ONE OF OURS THE GOOD HOUSE Ruth Franklin THE MANY LIVES OF ANNE FRANK SHIRLEY JACKSON: A RATHER HAUNTED LIFE The Cold Embrace Mary Elizabeth Braddon THE PENGUIN BOOK OF GHOST STORIES SWANNS WAY Marcel Proust IN SEARCH OF LOST TIME THE STOLEN QUEEN Fiona Davis CARE AND FEEDING: A Memoir Laurie Woolever THE CLIFFS J. Courtney Sullivan ALL CT READS 2025 Monica Wood HOW TO READ A BOOK Tananarive Due CARELESS PEOPLE Sarah Wynn-Williams THE EXTENDED MIND Annie Murphy Paul WOMAN, EATING Claire Kohda MURDER UNDER HER SKIN Stephen Spotswood THE GHOSTWRITER Julia Clark TELL ME EVERYTHING Elizabeth Strout TILDA IS VISIBLE Jane Tara The Haunted and the Haunters Edward Bulwer Lytton FINGERSMITH Sarah Waters White River Books Alpenglow Books and Gifts Barbaras Bookstores THE CATS MEOW Jonathan Losos Willa Cather Spring Conference Ghost Stories readalong What Was It? Fitz-James O'Brien LONE WOMEN Victor LaValle TWENTY-FOUR SECONDS FROM NOWA Love Story Jason Reynolds SWEPT AWAY Beth O'Leary THE FISHWIFE COOKBOOK Becca Millstein Vilda Gonzalez THE HEBRIDEAN BAKER Coinneach Macleod THE LEAF DETECTIVE Heather Lang A WEB OF OBSIDIAN Lydia M. Hawke Buzz Books 2025 Horror panel Hickory Stick Bookshop

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The Book Cougars: Two Middle-Aged Women on the Hunt for a Good Read is a literary podcast hosted and produced by Emily Fine and Chris Wolak. Every-other-week, we sit down to talk about the books we've read, the Biblio Adventures we've been on, books that have caught our eye, and other bookish topics. We also have regular interviews with authors and other literary professionals. We post a new podcast episode every-other-Tuesday.

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Here's the recent few episodes on Book Cougars Podcast: Two Middle-Aged Women on the Hunt for a Good Read.

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Episode 233 - Author Spotlight with Matthew Goodman

Hosts
Chris Emily
Guests
Matthew Goodman
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Matthew Goodman Paris Undercover Etta Shiber Kate Bonnefous British servicemen ghost stories The Portable Feminist Reader Being Female Food Person Ephemera Biblio Adventures Independent Bookstore Day
On Episode 233, we are thrilled to welcome back, MATTHEW GOODMAN! We are so grateful that Zoom and, before them, Skype (remember them?) opened up the world to conversations with authors. That said, there’s still nothing like sitting in the same room with other humans talking about books, ideas, and historic happenings. Matthew joined us at Book Cougars HQ here in Connecticut to discuss his new book, PARIS UNDERCOVER: A WARTIME STORY OF COURAGE, FRIENDSHIP, AND BETRAYAL, now available from Ballantine Books. The book is a narrative history about Etta Shiber and Kate Bonnefous, two middle-aged women who smuggled out British servicemen from behind enemy lines, their arrest, Etta’s best-selling memoir about their efforts, and the price Kate paid for that book. Don’t miss our conversation with Matthew at the end of this episode. Paris Undercover is about history, but it speaks to our current time.

Some highlights in this episode:

We both have started reading around in THE PORTABLE FEMINIST READER, edited by Roxane Gay, starting with “If Men Could Menstruate” by Gloria Steinem. Chris also read “Being Female” by Eileen Myles. Emily finished the novel FOOD PERSON by Adam Roberts, and Chris read the graphic memoir EPHEMERA by Briana Loewinsohn.

It was also time for another ghost story from THE PENGUIN BOOK OF GHOST STORIES: From Elizabeth Gaskell to Ambrose Bierce. We both thought “The Signal Man” by Charles Dickens was “meh,” although it had some good lines and moments.

In Biblio Adventures, we recap seeing Maura Casey at Bank Square Books in Mystic, our Independent Bookstore Day jaunts to Breakwater Books in Guilford and R.J. Julia Booksellers in Madison, CT, and Emily’s volunteer experience at Cherry Jubilee in NYC.

We had such a fun time recording this episode and hope you enjoy it. Happy Reading!

https://www.bookcougars.com/blog-1/2025/episode233
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Episode 232 - Author Spotlight with Eowyn Ivey

Hosts
Chris Emily
Guests
Eowyn Ivey
Keywords
Eowyn Ivey BLACK WOODS BLUE SKY writing habits motherhood literary life in Alaska Proust vs Joyce The North Mail HAPPY LAND THE GRIFFIN SISTERS GREATEST HITS OLD NEW YORK STORYWORTHY DEEP WORK LOVE IS FOR ALL OF US Mark Twain House HEARTWOOD A SON AT THE FRONT ONE OF OURS THE GOOD HOUSE
We were thrilled to talk with author Eowyn Ivey about her new book, BLACK WOODS BLUE SKY. During our conversation, Eowyn shared her writing habits, including a description of her writing cottage, and tells us about her reading life. Topics ranged from motherhood on the page and in real life, her family’s literary life in Alaska, and Proust vs Joyce.

In our own reading lives, we both read and discuss “The North Mail” by Amelia B. Edwards from THE PENGUIN BOOK OF GHOST STORIES: from Elizabeth Gaskell to Ambrose Bierce. We gave this one four paws up. Or should it be eight paws? Whatever the rating system should be for cougars, we both enjoyed Edwards’s story. It has a good creep factor and atmosphere, both indoors and outside.

Other books we’ve enjoyed include novels HAPPY LAND by Dolan Perkins-Valdez and THE GRIFFIN SISTERS GREATEST HITS by Jennifer Weiner; a quartet of novellas, OLD NEW YORK by Edith Wharton; and two works of nonfiction: STORYWORTHY: Engage, Teach, Persuade, and Change Your Life Through the Power of Storytelling by Matthew Dicks and DEEP WORK: Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World by Cal Newport.

Big thanks to this episode’s sponsor, James Crews and Brad Peacock. The new poetry collection they co-edited is available on May 6: LOVE IS FOR ALL OF US: Poems of Tenderness and Belonging from the LGBTQ+ Community and Friends (with illustrations by Lisa Congdon).

We also recap a great Biblio Adventure to the Mark Twain House to hear Ethan Rutherford (author of NORTH SUN, OR THE VOYAGE OF THE WHALESHIP ESTHER) in conversation with Amity Gaige about her new novel, HEARTWOOD. Chris also got to attend THE MOUNT’S virtual book club discussion of Edith Wharton’s A SON AT THE FRONT and Willa Cather’s ONE OF OURS, led by Anne Schuyler and Julie Olin-Ammentorp.

As always, there are more books inside this episode than we can fit here! Enjoy, and be sure not to miss our conversation with Eowyn Ivey at the end.

Oh, and reminder: our second quarter readalong pick is THE GOOD HOUSE by Tananarive Due (Zoom discussion on 6/8 and also on Goodreads).

Thanks for listening, and happy reading!

https://www.bookcougars.com/blog-1/2025/episode232

The Good House Goodreads readalong https://www.bookcougars.com/blog-1/2025/episode231

Penguin Book of Ghost Stories Goodreads thread https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/23017532-ghost-stories
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Episode 231 - Author Spotlight with Ruth Franklin

Hosts
Chris Emily
Guests
Ruth Franklin
Keywords
Ruth Franklin THE MANY LIVES OF ANNE FRANK SHIRLEY JACKSON: A RATHER HAUNTED LIFE The Cold Embrace Mary Elizabeth Braddon THE PENGUIN BOOK OF GHOST STORIES SWANNS WAY Marcel Proust IN SEARCH OF LOST TIME THE STOLEN QUEEN Fiona Davis CARE AND FEEDING: A Memoir Laurie Woolever THE CLIFFS J. Courtney Sullivan ALL CT READS 2025 Monica Wood HOW TO READ A BOOK
We were thrilled and a little nervous to sit down with Ruth Franklin to talk about her work and share our origin story. The Book Cougars may not have been born without Ruth Franklin. Or, come to think of it, Shirley Jackson. We were excited to talk with Ruth about her brilliant new work, THE MANY LIVES OF ANNE FRANK, and her previous biography, SHIRLEY JACKSON: A RATHER HAUNTED LIFE. You won’t want to miss our conversation with Ruth. She is a fantastic writer and a great conversationalist. The interview begins at 01:13:25.

In our Just Read segment, we discuss “The Cold Embrace” by Mary Elizabeth Braddon, the current story from THE PENGUIN BOOK OF GHOST STORIES. Note: we spoil some plot points so read this ten-page short story prior to listening (unless you don’t care, then feel free to listen with abandon). Head to the shownotes, where you’ll find a link to the story available to read online.

Rejoice, for Chris has finally finished SWANN’S WAY by Marcel Proust! However, this won’t be the last you hear about Proust. She has committed to reading the next book in his longer work, IN SEARCH OF LOST TIME, with Robin Gustafson’s group in Feb/Mar 2026. After Proust, Chris found a delicious palate cleanser in THE STOLEN QUEEN by Fiona Davis.

Emily finished CARE AND FEEDING: A Memoir by Laurie Woolever and THE CLIFFS by J. Courtney Sullivan, which marks off another square on her Ghost Stories Bingo Card. She also attended the virtual ALL CT READS 2025 Adult Author Talk with Monica Wood who penned HOW TO READ A BOOK, which was one of her Top 10 Reads of last year.

Thanks to our two sponsors this episode, authors Lise Mayne (TIME ENOUGH) and Aline Weiller (FUN: Essays on a Life Embraced).

As always, we talk about more books and Biblio Adventures than we list here. We hope you enjoy listening and that your next book is a great read.

Happy Reading!

https://www.bookcougars.com/blog-1/2025/episode231
0:00 1:19:52

Episode 230: "Come for the Skiing, Stay for the Library"

Hosts
Chris Emily
Guests
Shawn Breathes Books
Keywords
THE GOOD HOUSE Tananarive Due CARELESS PEOPLE Sarah Wynn-Williams THE EXTENDED MIND Annie Murphy Paul WOMAN, EATING Claire Kohda MURDER UNDER HER SKIN Stephen Spotswood THE GHOSTWRITER Julia Clark TELL ME EVERYTHING Elizabeth Strout TILDA IS VISIBLE Jane Tara The Haunted and the Haunters Edward Bulwer Lytton FINGERSMITH Sarah Waters White River Books Alpenglow Books and Gifts Barbaras Bookstores THE CATS MEOW Jonathan Losos Monica Wood Willa Cather Spring Conference
Welcome to Episode 230 where we talk about some books.

As this is another tenth episode, we are also hosting a giveaway! One lucky newsletter subscriber will win a paperback copy of our second quarter readalong pick, THE GOOD HOUSE by Tananarive Due. Newsletter subscribers are automatically entered to win our recurring tenth episode giveaways.

Chris unexpectedly read the surprise hot book of the season, CARELESS PEOPLE: A Cautionary Tale of Power, Greed, and Lost Idealism by Sarah Wynn-Williams, and is telling everyone to believe the hype. She also read THE EXTENDED MIND: The Power of Thinking Outside the Brain by Annie Murphy Paul, and devoured WOMAN, EATING: A Literary Vampire Novel by Claire Kohda.

Emily read two novels that have an unexpected connection, MURDER UNDER HER SKIN: A Pentecost and Parker Mystery by Stephen Spotswood and THE GHOSTWRITER by Julia Clark. She also read two less murdery novels, TELL ME EVERYTHING by Elizabeth Strout and TILDA IS VISIBLE by Jane Tara. One of these she loved and the other was a bit of a departure for a well-loved writer.

We discuss the third short ghost story – “The Haunted and the Haunters; Or, The House and the Brain by Edward Bulwer Lytton – in THE PENGUIN BOOK OF GHOST STORIES: From Elizabeth Gaskell to Ambrose Bierce. This one didn’t grab us like the last one (pun intended) but we can see how it contributes to the haunted house tradition.

In Biblio Adventures, Chris made a guest appearance on Shawn Breathes Books where they discussed FINGERSMITH by Sarah Waters; it is ready for viewing on his BookTube channel. Emily was in Colorado visiting new grandbaby #2, and got to visit two local bookstores: White River Books in Carbondale and Alpenglow Books and Gifts in Glenwood Springs. During a long layover in O’Hare, she also visited several Barbara’s Bookstores in the airport.

As always, there is more in this episode than we can highlight here, like upcoming reads and jaunts (e.g., THE CAT’S MEOW: How Cats Evolved from the Savanna to Your Sofa by Jonathan Losos, All CT Reads with author Monica Wood, and the Willa Cather Spring Conference).

We were so happy to be back together talking about books across the table! We hope you enjoy listening to this episode as much as we enjoyed recording it.

Happy Reading!

https://www.bookcougars.com/blog-1/2025/episode230
0:00 1:05:23

Episode 229 - Announcing our 2nd Quarter Readalong in our year of reading Ghost Stories

Hosts
Chris Emily
Keywords
Ghost Stories readalong What Was It? Fitz-James O'Brien LONE WOMEN Victor LaValle TWENTY-FOUR SECONDS FROM NOWA Love Story Jason Reynolds SWEPT AWAY Beth O'Leary THE FISHWIFE COOKBOOK Becca Millstein Vilda Gonzalez THE HEBRIDEAN BAKER Coinneach Macleod THE LEAF DETECTIVE Heather Lang A WEB OF OBSIDIAN Lydia M. Hawke Biblio Adventures Buzz Books 2025 Horror panel Hickory Stick Bookshop
Welcome to Episode 229!

We kick off this episode with the announcement of our second quarter readalong pick for our year of reading Ghost Stories. We hope you’ll read along with us!

Speaking of which, we also have an in depth conversation about “What Was It?” by Fitz-James O’Brien, the second story in the PENGUIN BOOK OF GHOST STORIES that we’ll be buddy reading throughout the year. Join us on this, too!

Emily checked off the Western square on her Ghost Stories Bingo Card by reading LONE WOMEN by Victor LaValle. She also read TWENTY-FOUR SECONDS FROM NOW…A Love Story by Jason Reynolds and SWEPT AWAY by Beth O’Leary, and two cookbooks: THE FISHWIFE COOKBOOK by Becca Millstein and Vilda Gonzalez and THE HEBRIDEAN BAKER by Coinneach Macleod.

Chris had some concentration issues and found comfort reading two wonderful picture books: THE LEAF DETECTIVE: How Margaret Lowman Uncovered Secrets in the Rainforest by Heather Lang, illustrated by Jana Christy, and HOW BIRDS SLEEP by David Obuchowski, illustrated by Sarah Pedry. She also finished listening to the audio version of A WEB OF OBSIDIAN by Lydia M. Hawke.

We recap some notable Biblio Adventures including a Buzz Books 2025 Horror panel and an event at Hickory Stick Bookshop, and of course we talk about a bunch more books and bookish things. We hope you enjoy this episode.

Happy Reading!

https://www.bookcougars.com/blog-1/2025/episode-229

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