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A podcast by 37signals about the better way to work and run your business. The REWORK podcast features the co-founders of 37signals (the makers of Basecamp and HEY), Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson sharing their unique perspective on business and entrepreneurship along with host Kimberly Rhodes.

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Recent Hosts, Guests & Topics

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Kimberly Rhodes

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Jason Fried

Jason Fried is the co-founder and CEO of Basecamp, a project management and team collaboration software company. He is known for his insights on business and work culture, advocating for a simpler, more productive approach to work. Fried has authored several books, including 'Rework' and 'It Doesn't Have to Be Crazy at Work', which challenge conventional business practices.

David Heinemeier Hansson

David Heinemeier Hansson is a Danish programmer and entrepreneur, best known as the co-founder of Basecamp and the creator of the Ruby on Rails web development framework. He is a vocal advocate for remote work and has co-authored books such as 'Rework' and 'Remote: Office Not Required', which emphasize the importance of a healthy work-life balance and efficient business practices.

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dogfooding internal testing product development entrepreneurship 37signals priorities decision-making real-time roadmap planning 6-week cycles day job launching products consulting work side projects motivation expectations timing profit business freedom clarity self-funded customers ego humility reliability work/life balance team management founders involvement

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Episodes

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0:00 21:14

Eat your own dog food

April 23, 2025

Kimberly Rhodes

Jason Fried David Heinemeier Hansson

dogfooding internal testing product development entrepreneurship 37signals

Before anything ships at 37signals, the team puts it to the test—by using it themselves. In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about the importance of dogfooding, or using your own product before handing it off to customers. They share how this practice keeps them close to the real problems, and sometimes even kills off ideas that just don’t hold up.

Key Takeaways:

00:27 – Why every 37signals product is used internally before it ships
07:15 – Who makes the final call after internal feedback comes in
12:44 – The importance of building things you’ll actually use
16:48 – Some products and features don’t make it past internal testing

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0:00 11:50

Picking Priorities

April 16, 2025

Kimberly Rhodes

Jason Fried David Heinemeier Hansson

priorities decision-making real-time roadmap planning 6-week cycles

How do you decide what to work on next, without relying on a long, stale to-do list? In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, 37signals co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about why they don’t rely on lengthy roadmaps to set priorities. Instead, they focus on what makes sense now, not what seemed like a good idea months ago. They explain how working in real time leads to better decisions and thinking that fits the moment.

Key Takeaways:

00:44 – Priorities aren’t permanent—they’re meant to shift as you learn
03:20 – Ditch the roadmap mentality in favor of real-time decision-making
07:20 – There’s a difference between winging it and planning as you go
09:10 – Why 6-week cycles give you just enough structure without locking you in

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Key Takeaways:

00:44 – Priorities aren’t permanent—they’re meant to shift as you learn
03:20 – Ditch the roadmap mentality in favor of real-time decision-making
07:20 – There’s a difference between winging it and planning as you go
09:10 – Why 6-week cycles give you just enough structure without locking you in

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0:00 19:57

Building On the Side

April 09, 2025

Kimberly Rhodes

Jason Fried David Heinemeier Hansson

day job launching products consulting work side projects motivation expectations timing

Have a day job but dreaming of launching the next big thing? In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, a listener question sparks a conversation with 37signals co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson about juggling consulting work while building products on the side. They share real talk about timing, expectations, motivation — and why your side project should serve you, even if it doesn’t turn into a smash hit.

Key Takeaways:

00:12 – Host Kimberly Rhodes reads a listener question about balancing consulting with product building
01:01 – Why it’s easier than ever to build something—but harder than ever to get noticed
05:48 – The barrier to entry is low, but staying in the game is the hard part
08:05 – There’s no formula for what will take off and what won’t
13:08 – Aim for more than just small wins—set bold goals
16:04 – You have to be fully invested if you want your idea to stand a chance

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Key Takeaways:

00:12 – Host Kimberly Rhodes reads a listener question about balancing consulting with product building
01:01 – Why it’s easier than ever to build something—but harder than ever to get noticed
05:48 – The barrier to entry is low, but staying in the game is the hard part
08:05 – There’s no formula for what will take off and what won’t
13:08 – Aim for more than just small wins—set bold goals
16:04 – You have to be fully invested if you want your idea to stand a chance

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0:00 21:10

Why we choose profit

April 02, 2025

Kimberly Rhodes

Jason Fried David Heinemeier Hansson

profit business freedom clarity self-funded customers ego humility reliability

In a world where constant reinvestment is celebrated, 37signals chooses profit. In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about how profit gives them freedom, clarity, and staying power—not just for the company, but for their customers too. They make the case for building a business that’s solid, simple, and self-funded.

Key Takeaways:

00:27 – How being profitable is actually a choice
08:34 – Why it’s important to take money off the table
11:35 – Striking the right balance between ego and humility
15:00 – Profitability isn’t guaranteed forever
18:27 – Well-managed profits create reliability for customers

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Key Takeaways:

00:27 – How being profitable is actually a choice
08:34 – Why it’s important to take money off the table
11:35 – Striking the right balance between ego and humility
15:00 – Profitability isn’t guaranteed forever
18:27 – Well-managed profits create reliability for customers

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0:00 29:05

Build a business that runs without you

March 26, 2025

Kimberly Rhodes

Jason Fried David Heinemeier Hansson

business entrepreneurship work/life balance team management founders involvement

Can you build a company that thrives even when you’re not in the room? In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, 37signals co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about the jobs they've created for themselves and how they're able to step away without progress coming to a halt. They discuss the fine line between being involved and letting the team run things without them.

Key Takeaways:

00:14 – The importance of creating a job for yourself that you enjoy
02:45 – The tragedy of owning a business you don't love
06:56 – Staying relevant in your business and knowing when to step in
15:14 – Knowing when to step back so your team can grow
17:51 – Maintaining a life outside of your business and having work/life balance
20:36 – The parts of the business that require the founders' involvement
23:33 – Jason and David's stance of not being serial entrepreneurs

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Key Takeaways:

00:14 – The importance of creating a job for yourself that you enjoy
02:45 – The tragedy of owning a business you don't love
06:56 – Staying relevant in your business and knowing when to step in
15:14 – Knowing when to step back so your team can grow
17:51 – Maintaining a life outside of your business and having work/life balance
20:36 – The parts of the business that require the founders' involvement
23:33 – Jason and David's stance of not being serial entrepreneurs

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Ratings

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4.7 rating 306 reviews

USA

4.7 ratings 207 reviews

Canada

4.8 ratings 33 reviews

UK

4.3 ratings 32 reviews

Australia

4.8 ratings 22 reviews

Ireland

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Singapore

5.0 ratings 4 reviews

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South Africa

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