REWORK

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A podcast by 37signals about the better way to work and run your business. The REWORK podcast features the co-founders of 37signals (the makers of Basecamp and HEY), Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson sharing their unique perspective on business and entrepreneurship along with host Kimberly Rhodes.

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Kimberly Rhodes

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Jason Fried
Jason Fried is the co-founder and CEO of Basecamp, a project management and team collaboration software company. He is known for his insights on business and work culture, advocating for a simpler, more productive approach to work. Fried has authored several books, including 'Rework' and 'It Doesn't Have to Be Crazy at Work', which challenge conventional business practices.
David Heinemeier Hansson
David Heinemeier Hansson is a Danish programmer and entrepreneur, best known as the co-founder of Basecamp and the creator of the Ruby on Rails web development framework. He is a vocal advocate for remote work and has co-authored books such as 'Rework' and 'Remote: Office Not Required', which emphasize the importance of a healthy work-life balance and efficient business practices.

Topics Discussed

dogfooding internal testing product development entrepreneurship 37signals priorities decision-making real-time roadmap planning 6-week cycles day job launching products consulting work side projects motivation expectations timing profit business freedom clarity self-funded customers ego humility reliability work/life balance team management founders involvement

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0:00 21:14

Eat your own dog food

Hosts
Kimberly Rhodes
Guests
Jason Fried David Heinemeier Hansson
Keywords
dogfooding internal testing product development entrepreneurship 37signals

Before anything ships at 37signals, the team puts it to the testby using it themselves. In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about the importance of dogfooding, or using your own product before handing it off to customers. They share how this practice keeps them close to the real problems, and sometimes even kills off ideas that just dont hold up.

Key Takeaways:

  • 00:27 Why every 37signals product is used internally before it ships
  • 07:15 Who makes the final call after internal feedback comes in
  • 12:44 The importance of building things youll actually use
  • 16:48 Some products and features dont make it past internal testing

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0:00 11:50

Picking Priorities

Hosts
Kimberly Rhodes
Guests
Jason Fried David Heinemeier Hansson
Keywords
priorities decision-making real-time roadmap planning 6-week cycles

How do you decide what to work on next, without relying on a long, stale to-do list? In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, 37signals co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about why they don’t rely on lengthy roadmaps to set priorities. Instead, they focus on what makes sense now, not what seemed like a good idea months ago. They explain how working in real time leads to better decisions and thinking that fits the moment.

Key Takeaways:

  • 00:44 – Priorities aren’t permanent—they’re meant to shift as you learn
  • 03:20 – Ditch the roadmap mentality in favor of real-time decision-making
  • 07:20 – There’s a difference between winging it and planning as you go
  • 09:10 – Why 6-week cycles give you just enough structure without locking you in

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0:00 19:57

Building On the Side

Hosts
Kimberly Rhodes
Guests
Jason Fried David Heinemeier Hansson
Keywords
day job launching products consulting work side projects motivation expectations timing

Have a day job but dreaming of launching the next big thing? In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, a listener question sparks a conversation with 37signals co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson about juggling consulting work while building products on the side. They share real talk about timing, expectations, motivation — and why your side project should serve you, even if it doesn’t turn into a smash hit.

Key Takeaways:

  • 00:12 – Host Kimberly Rhodes reads a listener question about balancing consulting with product building
  • 01:01 – Why it’s easier than ever to build something—but harder than ever to get noticed
  • 05:48 – The barrier to entry is low, but staying in the game is the hard part
  • 08:05 – There’s no formula for what will take off and what won’t
  • 13:08 – Aim for more than just small wins—set bold goals
  • 16:04 – You have to be fully invested if you want your idea to stand a chance

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0:00 21:10

Why we choose profit

Hosts
Kimberly Rhodes
Guests
Jason Fried David Heinemeier Hansson
Keywords
profit business freedom clarity self-funded customers ego humility reliability

In a world where constant reinvestment is celebrated, 37signals chooses profit. In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about how profit gives them freedom, clarity, and staying power—not just for the company, but for their customers too. They make the case for building a business that’s solid, simple, and self-funded.

Key Takeaways:

  • 00:27 – How being profitable is actually a choice
  • 08:34 – Why it’s important to take money off the table
  • 11:35 – Striking the right balance between ego and humility
  • 15:00 – Profitability isn’t guaranteed forever
  • 18:27 – Well-managed profits create reliability for customers

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0:00 29:05

Build a business that runs without you

Hosts
Kimberly Rhodes
Guests
Jason Fried David Heinemeier Hansson
Keywords
business entrepreneurship work/life balance team management founders involvement

Can you build a company that thrives even when you’re not in the room? In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, 37signals co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about the jobs they've created for themselves and how they're able to step away without progress coming to a halt. They discuss the fine line between being involved and letting the team run things without them.

Key Takeaways:

  • 00:14 – The importance of creating a job for yourself that you enjoy
  • 02:45 – The tragedy of owning a business you don't love
  • 06:56 – Staying relevant in your business and knowing when to step in
  • 15:14 – Knowing when to step back so your team can grow
  • 17:51 – Maintaining a life outside of your business and having work/life balance
  • 20:36 – The parts of the business that require the founders' involvement
  • 23:33 – Jason and David's stance of not being serial entrepreneurs

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Ratings

Global:
4.7 rating 305 reviews

USA

4.7 ratings 206 reviews

Canada

4.8 ratings 33 reviews

UK

4.3 ratings 32 reviews

Australia

4.8 ratings 22 reviews

Ireland

3.8 ratings 5 reviews

Singapore

5.0 ratings 4 reviews

New Zealand

5.0 ratings 2 reviews

South Africa

5.0 ratings 1 reviews