Good Girls Get Rich Podcast

Welcome to Episode 308 of the Good Girls Get Rich Podcast andIm your host,Karen Yankovich.

What if the story youve been hiding is actually your superpower?

In this weeks episode of the Good Girls Get Rich podcast, I sit down with the incredible Celi Arias CEO of Grown Ass Business and we dive deep into what it really takes to build a business that not only survives but scales with integrity.

Spoiler alert: Its NOT about chasing shiny funnels or working 18-hour days.

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About This Episode & Highlights:

Celis journey is as real as it gets. From managing multiple businesses in Argentina to a moment of true reinvention (yes, sleeping on the floor of her sewing studio kind of reinvention), she cracked the code on what it means to build a strong foundation in business.

Her "Get Ahead in Business" methodology is one part business school, one part rebel truth-teller, and all about making sure you stop spinning your wheels and start thinking like a CEO.

In this episode, we talk about:

• Why your business feels chaotic (even when you think you're doing it all right)
• The 5 key growth systems every business must have (hint: youre probably missing a few)
• What it really means to wear all the hats and why thats a myth
• How to reframe your failed ventures into data-driven wisdom
• The mindset shift every entrepreneur must make if they want to scale sustainably

Celi doesnt sugarcoat. She brings receipts. And her story is proof that you dont need to be anyone other than your brilliant, messy, determined self to rise up.

Key Takeaways:

• Listen now if youre...
  Tired of duct-taping your business together with freebies and guesswork
• Feeling like you're missing something but not sure what
• Craving a grounded, intelligent approach to building a 7-figure company (without burnout)
• Ready to stop proving your worth and start owning your CEO seat

Join the conversation: Share this episode and tag me @karenyankovich and Celi @celigrowsbusiness. Lets show the world what real business wisdom looks like.

Want more support like this? Come hang out with us inside our free community for women building visibility and credibility LinkedInForWomenCommunity.com (yep, itll forward you to our private Facebook group).

Magical Quotes from the Episode:

Celi Arias:

1. Youre not wearing all the hats youre just wearing the one youre good at and hoping the rest work themselves out.
2. The real job of a business coach is to condense time because you're either going to run out of money or run out of faith in yourself.
3. Strategy is the easy part. The hard part is not falling into the trap of I must suck when something stops working.

Karen Yankovich:

1. If anybody out there had a path to success that was a ladder instead of a rollercoaster, I want to hear from you!
2. All the strategy in the world wont work if you havent done the mindset work. Were asking people to be someone theyve never been before.
3. What worked in business two years ago is not working anymore and that doesnt mean youre broken. It means its time to shift.

Resources Mentioned In This Episode:

Make sure to check out Celi's website and connect with her on socials:

• Instagram
• LinkedIn

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Welcome back to the Good Girls Get Rich podcast. I’m Karen Yankovich, and if you’ve ever caught yourself side-eyeing your LinkedIn profile thinking, “Wait... is this thing even doing anything for me?”—then this episode is your love note from the universe.

We’re not here to play small anymore. This episode is for the brilliant, successful, wildly capable women who are still—somehow—invisible online. You’re out there doing the most, changing lives, delivering real transformation… and still? People are hiring the other guy because they found them first.

Let’s change that. Starting today.

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About The Episode:

This episode is less “LinkedIn tips” and more about taking your power back. Because your LinkedIn profile? It’s not a resume. It’s not a digital business card. It is your virtual storefront, your authority anchor, your invitation to opportunity.

And if you’re not fully owning that space… you’re leaving money, influence, and impact on the table. I’m not okay with that. Not anymore.

In this episode, I’m breaking down how ONE powerful, personal-brand-aligned LinkedIn profile can bring in $100K+ in revenue. And no, you don’t need a massive following. You don’t need to post three times a day. You don’t need to dance on Reels. (Unless you want to. 😉)

What you do need is:

• Magnetic messaging that speaks directly to your dream clients
• A clear, high-value offer that reflects your zone of genius
• Visibility strategy that brings ease—not hustle—into your life

The Truth: People Can't Hire You If They Can't Find You
I tell a story in this episode that still makes my heart beat a little faster.

One Friday morning, a woman who had never heard my name stumbled on a comment I made on LinkedIn. She clicked my profile. She saw exactly what she needed. She booked a call. By 4PM, she was a $10,000 client.

This is not a fluke. It’s not magic. It’s magnetic branding on a platform that favors substance over fluff.

This woman didn’t binge my podcast. She didn’t take a freebie. She didn’t wait six months to “warm up.” She saw herself in my profile—and made a move.

You deserve that kind of visibility. That kind of ease. That kind of YES.

Let’s Talk About You, Friend
If you’re a speaker, author, coach, consultant, board member, or just a woman with a vision and a whole lot of receipts for the value you bring to the world… this episode is your permission slip to start showing up like it.

Because right now? You might be the best-kept secret in your industry.

And girl, best-kept secrets don’t build generational wealth.

We’re diving into:

• How to position your LinkedIn profile to speak directly to premium opportunities (media, speaking gigs, high-ticket clients)
• What makes a headline magnetic (hint: it’s not your job title)
• Why your About section needs to feel like a late-night convo with your best friend—not a bio someone else wrote in third person
• The real reason recommendations and endorsements matter more than you think
• How to weave keywords naturally and strategically so people actually find you

Real Client Results (The Kind That Give You Chills)
Lauren missed out on a dream opportunity and knew exactly why: her LinkedIn profile didn’t reflect her brilliance. She literally called me and said, “Here’s my credit card. I’m done playing small.”

Marusha, another amazing client, had five perfect-fit leads within two weeks of updating her profile and posting intentionally. Two. Weeks.

These aren’t unicorn stories. They’re what happens when you stop winging it and start strategically showing up for what you want.

Imagine If…

Your LinkedIn profile brought in just 10 clients at $10K each. That’s $100K—without a full-blown launch. Without cold-pitching. Without burnout.

And hey, if you're telling yourself, “Karen, I don’t even have a $10K offer”—that's where we start in She’s LinkedUp. I help you create that premium offer rooted in your gifts, your energy, and what feels aligned.

Today’s Takeaway:
Your profile isn’t just a profile.
It’s your story. Your strategy. Your stake in the ground.
It’s how you claim your space. It’s how people know you’re the one they’ve been searching for.

Ready to Stop Playing Small?
I want to personally invite you to join me inside She’s LinkedUp. It’s more than a program. It’s a full reset of how you show up online, how you sell, how you own your space.
Inside you get:

• A professionally written LinkedIn profile
• PR & media training
• Lifetime coaching and community
• Visibility strategy tailored to your goals
• And a VA training bonus so your team can support your success

This is next-level leadership... the kind that builds wealth and legacy.

If this episode lit something up in you, subscribe, share it with a powerful woman in your world, and tag me when you do! You showing up for yourself lights the way for so many others.

Let’s build the brand, the business, and the beautiful life you deserve.

You ready?
Listen now, then come join us at ShesLinkedUp.com
Connect with me on LinkedIn
DM me your favorite takeaway – I’d love to celebrate with you!

Magical Quotes From The Episode:

“Your LinkedIn profile is not just a resume—it’s your virtual storefront, your sales page, your invitation to the biggest opportunities of your life.”

“If people can’t find you, they can’t hire you. And they will hire the person who shows up—even if they’re not as good as you.”

“One profile. One decision to stop playing small. That’s all it takes to go from best-kept secret to go-to expert.”

“You don’t need to go viral. You just need to show up as the leader you already are—and your LinkedIn profile is the easiest place to start.”

Resources Mentioned In the Episode:

• Connect with me on LinkedIn: Karen Yankovich
• Follow me on Instagram: @karenyankovich
• Join us at She's LinkedUp: Reignite & Rise Up Program
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Welcome back to Good Girls Get Rich. I’m your host, Karen Yankovich, and today, I want you to really hear this: It is time for women to stop playing small. This episode is not just another conversation about business growth or personal branding. This is about power. This is about financial independence. And this is about finally stepping up and taking what is already meant for you.

Women are still earning half a trillion dollars less than men for the same work. Let that sink in for a minute. It’s an infuriating statistic, but here’s the thing—I don’t waste my energy being frustrated. Instead, I see it as half a trillion dollars in opportunity. It’s time for more women to claim their share of that wealth and use it to create impact, build legacies, and change the world.

But here’s the hard truth: We are holding ourselves back.

Too many women hesitate to charge what they’re worth. Too many women wait until they check every box before applying for that leadership role or pitching themselves for that major opportunity. Too many women undervalue their expertise and downplay their skills.

That stops today.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

• Why the wealth gap is really a power gap – and why women need to get comfortable with the idea of power
• How visibility equals opportunity – and why getting featured in the media, being active on LinkedIn, and leveraging PR are game-changers
• The real reason high-ticket offers are your fast track to financial freedom – and why it’s actually easier to sell one $25,000 offer than ten $2,500 offers
• The magnetic power of personal branding – and how to position yourself as the go-to expert in your industry
• How to step into a wealth mindset in 2025 – and finally break free from the cycles of burnout, undercharging, and second-guessing

The Visibility Factor: Why You Need to Be Seen to Be Hired

One of the biggest challenges I see among brilliant, successful women is their lack of visibility. They are experts, leaders, and thought pioneers, but no one knows who they are. And in today’s world, if people don’t see you, they can’t hire you.

Think about the most influential people in your industry. Chances are, you’ve seen them in Forbes, Entrepreneur, on top podcasts, or speaking on major stages. That didn’t happen by accident. They positioned themselves for those opportunities. They put themselves in rooms where their expertise was recognized.

I’ve had clients land six-figure consulting deals just from a single podcast interview because that interview positioned them as the go-to expert in their field. I’ve seen women struggling to attract clients suddenly start closing $20,000 deals because a media feature gave them credibility. I’ve had my own business explode from the power of visibility and credibility.

And here’s the key: It’s not about being more qualified. It’s about being seen.

You already have the expertise. Now, it’s time to make sure the right people know about it.

The Truth About High-Ticket Offers and Why You Need One

Another major shift women need to make is elevating their pricing and positioning.

Selling low-cost services or charging hourly rates keeps you stuck in a cycle of exhaustion. The reality is, it is no harder to sell a $25,000 offer than it is to sell ten $2,500 offers. In fact, it’s often easier.

When you position yourself at a premium level, you attract clients who immediately see your value. You stop convincing people to hire you and start stepping into a space where people already trust your expertise and are willing to invest in it.

And let’s be clear: This is not about overcharging. This is about creating an offer that massively over-delivers on value.

I live by a simple rule in my business: If I charge someone $1, I need to know that the value they’re getting is worth at least $10. If I charge $1,000, I need to know they’ll walk away with at least $10,000 in impact. If I charge $100,000, I need to know they’ll gain a million dollars in value from it.

This is the mindset shift that will take you from struggling to thriving.

It’s Time to Step Into the Wealth You Deserve

If you are feeling that pull inside of you—the knowing that you are meant for more—this is your sign to step up.

We are in a world where the only thing we can truly count on is ourselves. If you’re not making the kind of money that will change your life and your family’s future, it’s time to change the way you approach visibility, authority, and pricing.

That’s why I created She’s LinkedUp – Reignite & Rise Up. This program is built for women who are ready to be seen, respected, and paid like the experts they are.

The doors are officially open, and if you’re ready to take that next step, here’s what to do next:

1. DM me “READY” on LinkedIn or Instagram. Let’s have a conversation about how you can finally break through and start making more money with ease.
2. Check out the program details at She’s LinkedUp. This new version is the most powerful we’ve ever created, and I can’t wait for you to experience it.
3. Share this episode with a woman who needs to hear it. If this resonated with you, chances are you know someone else who needs this wake-up call too.

If you tag me when you share it, I’ll make sure to amplify your voice and get you more visibility in the process. Because that’s how we rise—together.

This is your time. This is your year. Let’s make 2025 the year you finally claim the wealth, influence, and impact you deserve.

I’ll see you on the inside.

Magical Quotes From the Episode:

"Women are still earning half a trillion dollars less than men for the same work. But instead of getting frustrated, I see that as half a trillion dollars in opportunity. It’s time to claim our share." – Karen Yankovich

"If people don’t see you, they can’t hire you. Visibility isn’t about ego—it’s about positioning yourself for the opportunities that will change your life." – Karen Yankovich

"It is no harder to sell a $25,000 offer than it is to sell ten $2,500 offers. When you elevate your pricing and positioning, you attract clients who already see your value." – Karen Yankovich

"Women hesitate to use the word ‘power,’ but here’s the truth—when we have wealth, we have influence. And when women have influence, the world changes for the better." – Karen Yankovich

Hey there, gorgeous. I’ve got a little Jersey-style truth for you today, and I need you to hear it with your whole heart:

You. Are. Not. Too. Late.
You are right on time.

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In this special bonus episode of Good Girls Get Rich, we’re having a heart-to-heart — no fluff, no filters, just real talk about what it means to be a woman over 40, 50, even 60+ and still wanting more. More visibility. More influence. More money. More freedom. And guess what? That desire is not only valid, it's vital.

Whether you’ve been feeling the weight of caregiving responsibilities, worried about retirement savings, or battling that quiet fear that you’ve somehow missed your moment — this episode is your permission slip to rewrite that narrative. Because the truth is, the world needs your wisdom. And the best time to get visible? It’s today.

In This Episode, We Get Into:

• Why the “too late” story is a flat-out lie society fed us (and why it’s time to unsubscribe)

• The emotional + financial toll of caregiving — and how we create businesses that support us, not drain us

• How lived experience, emotional intelligence, and resilience are our biggest superpowers

• Why women over 50 are launching the most powerful, profitable chapters of their lives

• Real stories of transformation: how Amy Thurmond and Dr. Anise Mabry went from overlooked to unstoppable

• What happens when you say YES to visibility — spoiler alert: speaking gigs, media features, high-paying clients… and JOY

Tools & Truth Bombs You’ll Walk Away With:

• A mindset shift that will flip “I’m too late” into “This is my time”

• A new perspective on building a brand rooted in your truth and experience

• A reminder that you’re not broken, lazy, or behind — you’ve just been carrying a lot, and now it’s YOUR turn

• The exact energy that makes your personal brand magnetic (and it’s not youth — it’s wisdom)

💬 Karen Says:

“This isn’t about ego. Visibility is about impact. It’s about showing up, boldly and unapologetically, so you can change lives — starting with your own.”

“You didn’t start over — you started from experience. That is POWERFUL.”

This Episode is For You If:

• You’re a woman over 40 who’s ready to build a business that supports your lifestyle — not drains it

• You’ve felt invisible and are craving a personal brand that reflects your brilliance

• You’re done shrinking, done second-guessing, and ready to be seen, be paid, and be powerful

• You want to be one of the women I brag about on future episodes 😉

Mentioned in This Episode:

• She’s LinkedUp — our newly redesigned program for building a visible, profitable personal brand using LinkedIn and PR

• Lifetime community access (no subscriptions, just sisterhood for life)

• Want a sneak peek? DM me “READY” on Instagram or LinkedIn — I’ll send you the behind-the-scenes scoop

💖 Final Thought:

Sis, the world doesn’t need you to hustle harder. It needs you to show up — as the fully expressed, well-compensated, wildly impactful version of you. You are not behind. You are not invisible. You are just getting started.

Let’s get you the visibility and income to match the wisdom you’ve been carrying.

This is how good girls get rich.

Loved This Episode? Let’s Share the Wealth!
If this episode resonated with you, screenshot it and tag me on LinkedIn or Instagram so I can reshare your post and get YOU more visibility!

Know someone who’s ready to ditch the hustle and step into abundance? Share this episode with them!

This is how we lift each other up and build businesses with ease. I can’t wait to hear your biggest takeaways!

Your high-ticket, no-hustle business is waiting for you. Let’s make it happen. 

MAGICAL QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:

“You are not behind. This is your time. You are exactly where you’re meant to be — and the world is ready for your magic.”

“Visibility isn’t about ego — it’s about impact. And that impact creates influence… and income.”

“You didn’t start over — you started from experience. And that, my friend, is your superpower.”

“You’ve been carrying so much — and now it’s time for you to rise. Not by hustling harder, but by choosing visibility that aligns with your values.”

If this episode fired you up, share it with a friend who needs to hear it. Tag me so I can shout you out, and let’s rise together. Because when women rise, we ALL rise.

See you next time—until then, go be unstoppable!

Help Us Spread The Word!

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Ever feel like you’re working twice as hard as you did in corporate—but still not making the money you deserve? If you’re nodding along, this episode is for YOU. 

I’m diving into the biggest shift you need to make to start landing high-ticket opportunities with ease. Spoiler alert: it’s NOT about working harder—it’s about working smarter (and leveraging LinkedIn & PR to do the heavy lifting for you).

If you’re tired of hustling for every dollar, constantly launching, or feeling like you have to be “everywhere” to make an impact—breathe easy. There’s a better way. A way that brings in premium clients, lucrative deals, and major media opportunities—without burnout.

#GoodGirlsGetRich 

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Episode Highlights:

• The BIGGEST mistake women entrepreneurs make when pricing their services (and why you’re probably undercharging!)
• Why low-ticket offers keep you stuck in hustle mode—and how to shift into high-ticket success
• How to position yourself as the go-to expert on LinkedIn—without posting 24/7
• The She’s LinkedUp method for attracting high-ticket opportunities—without chasing clients
• How PR and media visibility can help you land speaking gigs, board seats, and premium clients
• The simple strategy my clients use to reduce hustle, increase profits, and finally create ease in their business

High-Ticket Success Starts with Positioning—Not Hustling
Too many women spend way too much time focusing on selling low-ticket offers, thinking they need volume to be profitable. But the real secret? Premium, high-ticket opportunities change EVERYTHING.

• It’s NOT about overcharging—it’s about creating transformational offers that allow you to deliver massive value without burning out.
• It’s NOT about working harder—it’s about attracting the right opportunities that pay you what you’re worth.
• It’s NOT about constantly launching—it’s about building relationships that lead to premium clients, speaking gigs, and high-profile media features.

The shift starts when you package your expertise into premium services that position you as a high-level consultant, strategist, or advisor—not just another service provider.

And guess where most high-ticket deals happen? Not on Instagram. Not in your email list.

They happen on LinkedIn.

Why LinkedIn is the #1 Platform for High-Ticket Opportunities
Most people think LinkedIn is just for job seekers. But here’s the truth:

LinkedIn is the most powerful networking tool for high-ticket deals, premium collaborations, and thought leadership.

If you’re an entrepreneur, coach, consultant, or expert looking to:

• Land $10K+ contracts instead of chasing $100 sales
• Attract decision-makers and top-tier clients—instead of cold pitching and hoping for the best
• Get referrals, board seats, and speaking opportunities—without posting content every day

Then it’s time to make LinkedIn your secret weapon.

FACT: The biggest opportunities don’t come from random social media posts. They come from relationships. And LinkedIn is the BEST place to build those relationships with the RIGHT people.

In She’s LinkedUp, I show you exactly how to:

• Optimize your LinkedIn profile so high-ticket clients see you as the expert (not just another connection)
• Get in front of decision-makers without spending hours posting content
• Build a pipeline of referrals and inbound opportunities (so you’re not constantly chasing clients)
• Land media features and podcast interviews that instantly boost your credibility

The best part? You don’t need to be online all day, creating content or DM’ing hundreds of people. It’s about working smarter—not harder.

PR & Media: The Ultimate Shortcut to High-Ticket Credibility
Want to fast-track your authority and get high-paying clients to come to YOU? Get featured in the media.

Here’s why PR is a game-changer for high-ticket success:

• Instant Credibility – When you’re featured in outlets like Forbes, NBC, or Entrepreneur, your perceived value skyrockets.
• Massive Visibility – Instead of hustling for leads, PR puts you in front of thousands (or millions) of the right people.
• Authority Positioning – When the media endorses you, you no longer have to "sell" yourself. 

You become the sought-after expert.

Think about it—would you rather:
 ❌ Hustle for 100 clients at $100 each?
 ✅ Or land ONE premium client at $10,000+ because they saw you featured as an expert in the press?

PR magnifies your LinkedIn strategy. It’s why I teach both inside She’s LinkedUp—because when you combine LinkedIn networking with PR visibility, you become unstoppable.

She’s LinkedUp: The 2025 Upgrade is Here!
We’ve completely reimagined She’s LinkedUp for 2025, and I couldn’t be more excited! If you’re ready to create:

• A high-ticket, ease-filled business that pays you what you’re worth
• Opportunities that come to YOU instead of chasing clients
• A magnetic personal brand that gets you booked for speaking, media, and premium consulting

Then I’d love to chat! DM me on LinkedIn or Instagram with "I’m ready", and I’ll send you all the details. No pressure, no hustle—just a real conversation about how we can get you into the next level of success.

Loved This Episode? Let’s Share the Wealth!
If this episode resonated with you, screenshot it and tag me on LinkedIn or Instagram so I can reshare your post and get YOU more visibility!

Know someone who’s ready to ditch the hustle and step into abundance? Share this episode with them!

This is how we lift each other up and build businesses with ease. I can’t wait to hear your biggest takeaways!

Your high-ticket, no-hustle business is waiting for you. Let’s make it happen. 

MAGICAL QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE:

"Reducing the hustle doesn’t mean reducing the impact—it means positioning yourself for the right opportunities that pay you what you’re worth."

"Your biggest opportunities won’t come from random social media posts. They come from relationships—real connections with decision-makers who can say YES."

"If you’re not standing out, you’re invisible. And invisible businesses don’t get clients. Visibility is non-negotiable."

"High-ticket success isn’t about overcharging—it’s about delivering at a premium level so everyone wins, including YOU."

Resources Mentioned In the Episode:

• Connect with me on LinkedIn: Karen Yankovich
• Follow me on Instagram: @karenyankovich
• Learn more about the She's LinkedUp: Reignite & Rise Up Program – Launching March 2025. DM me READY to be the first to know when doors open!

If this episode fired you up, share it with a friend who needs to hear it. Tag me so I can shout you out, and let’s rise together. Because when women rise, we ALL rise.

See you next time—until then, go be unstoppable!

Help Us Spread The Word!

It would be awesome if you shared the Good Girls Get Rich Podcast with your fellow entrepreneurs on Twitter. Click here to tweet some love!

If this episode has taught you just one thing, I would love if you could head on over to Apple Podcasts and SUBSCRIBE TO THE SHOW! And if you’re moved to, kindly leave us a rating and review. Maybe you’ll get a shout out on the show!

Ways to Subscribe to Good Girls Get Rich:

• Click here to subscribe via Apple Podcasts
• Click here to subscribe via PlayerFM
• Good Girls Get Rich is also on Spotify
• Take a listen on Podcast Addict